Il giorno sab, 07/03/2009 alle 11.01 -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel ha scritto: > On 7 March 2009 at 17:40, Pietro Battiston wrote: > | Well, as you prefer. I can certainly create a man page, obviously very > | small, almost a debianized > | <<this is R with graphics, see "man R" for more info>> > | , but this raises another problem to me: maybe I should also enchance > | slightly the rcmdr script so that it forwards command line arguments to > | R. Any reason against that reasoning? I ask because I'm really not an R > | expert, but still I don't think this would break anything. > > It's trivial, just add "$@" in > > #!/bin/sh > R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES Rcmdr" R "$@" >
great > This leaves my terminal in a funny state after R / Rcmdr exit and I always > have to call reset. I don't see this particular problem - running Ubuntu Intrepid. > > | That said, I'd prefer rcmdr to be in /usr/bin, because as I said it's > | useful even by itself as a script. But if upstream thinks it is useful > | but it doesn't comply with installation mode, I think it can be put > | in /usr/lib/R/site-library/ and just linked from /usr/bin (and I'd still > | write a man page). > > Yes, it definitely could be added (if John sees fit to do so) under maybe > inst/linux/ or something so that it ends up in $InstalledPkgPath/linux eg > /usr/lib/R/site-library/Rcmdr/linux/ > > I personally do not think it is all that generally useful, and I remain on > the sidelines relative to installing in /usr/bin. It's the type of think you > can define easily as your personal bash alias in your ~/.profile or > ~/.bashrc. Indeed, apart from the shell problem, I agree it would not be of very common use. > > And as I said above, it is also buggy. Surely good enough to be called from > a menu, for the cmdline use I am not so sure. Most people still call R as R, > I think, and are happy to just load Rcmdr. I'm trying to introduce R to some people which have never used a terminal... but for this purpose the menu item is enough, sure. > > | > > | > | /usr/share/applications/rcmdr.desktop : > | > | > | > | ------------------- 8< ------------------------- > | > | [Desktop Entry] > | > | Categories=Education;Science;Math; > | > | Comment=Graphical interface to the R environment for statistical > | > | computing > | > | Comment[fr]=Environnement graphique pour le logiciel de calcul > | > | statistique R > | > | Comment[it]=Interfaccia grafica per l'ambiente di calcolo statistico R > | > | Exec=/usr/bin/rcmdr > | > | Icon=/usr/share/R/doc/html/logo.jpg > | > | Name=R Commander > | > | Terminal=true > | > | Type=Application > | > | X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false > | > | > | > | ------------------- 8< ------------------------- > | > | > | > | > | > | Please notice that: > | > | - I would have preferred to not put R Commander under "Education", since > | > | this is quite reductive. However, I'm afraid this is inevitable (see for > | > | instance [0]). > | > > | > I don't follow, and I don't see why a gnome.org bugreport is relevant. > Debian > | > has its own hierarchies. For R, I use an (older-style) menu file with > | > > | > section="Applications/Science/Data Analysis" > | > > | > Aren't the menu and desktop entries derived the same way? > | > | Well, as far as I know, GNOME and KDE (and hopefully all major > | environments) refer to > | http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html > | , where "Science" is not a main category... though it could be soon or > | later: > | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2007-June/008456.html > | > | Are sure your other menu file is "older-style" and not "Debian style"? > | Since for example Ubuntu doesn't have (by default) the Debian menu, I'd > | like to comply to the freedesktop standard... (or did I misundestand > | something?) > > I see what you mean. The Debian menus predates the freedesktop stuff. I am > not sure which is more relevant for me inside Debian. I was able to get some clarifications: the debian and Gnome/KDE menus have different .desktop files, in different folders, with different formats. The debian menu file goes in /usr/share/menu, while the one I posted goes in /usr/share/applications. The categories you suggested are only valid for the former, in the latter I think "Education;Science;Math" is the only reasonable choice (though we can drop "Education" when the issue I reported is solved - I'll track it). I was also told that the Debian menu is being obsoleted, but I frankly didn't find any verifiable source stating the same. I'd suggest my .desktop to go upstream, since it's distribution-agnostic, and adding the debian specific one via a patch. Does shipping both in the debian package represent a problem to you, Dirk? Pietro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
