Dear Dirk and Petro, > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk Eddelbuettel [mailto:e...@debian.org] > Sent: March-07-09 12:01 PM > To: Pietro Battiston; 518...@bugs.debian.org > Cc: Dirk Eddelbuettel; John Fox > Subject: Re: Bug#518596: R Commander missing in applications menu > > > On 7 March 2009 at 17:40, Pietro Battiston wrote: > | Well, as you prefer. I can certainly create a man page, obviously very > | small, almost a debianized > | <<this is R with graphics, see "man R" for more info>> > | , but this raises another problem to me: maybe I should also enchance > | slightly the rcmdr script so that it forwards command line arguments to > | R. Any reason against that reasoning? I ask because I'm really not an R > | expert, but still I don't think this would break anything. > > It's trivial, just add "$@" in > > #!/bin/sh > R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES Rcmdr" R "$@" > > This leaves my terminal in a funny state after R / Rcmdr exit and I always > have to call reset. > > | That said, I'd prefer rcmdr to be in /usr/bin, because as I said it's > | useful even by itself as a script. But if upstream thinks it is useful > | but it doesn't comply with installation mode, I think it can be put > | in /usr/lib/R/site-library/ and just linked from /usr/bin (and I'd still > | write a man page). > > Yes, it definitely could be added (if John sees fit to do so) under maybe > inst/linux/ or something so that it ends up in $InstalledPkgPath/linux eg > /usr/lib/R/site-library/Rcmdr/linux/ > > I personally do not think it is all that generally useful, and I remain on > the sidelines relative to installing in /usr/bin. It's the type of think you > can define easily as your personal bash alias in your ~/.profile or > ~/.bashrc. > > And as I said above, it is also buggy. Surely good enough to be called from > a menu, for the cmdline use I am not so sure. Most people still call R as R, > I think, and are happy to just load Rcmdr. > > | > > | > | /usr/share/applications/rcmdr.desktop : > | > | > | > | ------------------- 8< ------------------------- > | > | [Desktop Entry] > | > | Categories=Education;Science;Math; > | > | Comment=Graphical interface to the R environment for statistical > | > | computing > | > | Comment[fr]=Environnement graphique pour le logiciel de calcul > | > | statistique R > | > | Comment[it]=Interfaccia grafica per l'ambiente di calcolo statistico R > | > | Exec=/usr/bin/rcmdr > | > | Icon=/usr/share/R/doc/html/logo.jpg > | > | Name=R Commander > | > | Terminal=true > | > | Type=Application > | > | X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false > | > | > | > | ------------------- 8< ------------------------- > | > | > | > | > | > | Please notice that: > | > | - I would have preferred to not put R Commander under "Education", > since > | > | this is quite reductive. However, I'm afraid this is inevitable (see > for > | > | instance [0]). > | > > | > I don't follow, and I don't see why a gnome.org bugreport is relevant. > Debian > | > has its own hierarchies. For R, I use an (older-style) menu file with > | > > | > section="Applications/Science/Data Analysis" > | > > | > Aren't the menu and desktop entries derived the same way? > | > | Well, as far as I know, GNOME and KDE (and hopefully all major > | environments) refer to > | http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html > | , where "Science" is not a main category... though it could be soon or > | later: > | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2007-June/008456.html > | > | Are sure your other menu file is "older-style" and not "Debian style"? > | Since for example Ubuntu doesn't have (by default) the Debian menu, I'd > | like to comply to the freedesktop standard... (or did I misundestand > | something?) > > I see what you mean. The Debian menus predates the freedesktop stuff. I am > not sure which is more relevant for me inside Debian. > > | > | - I'm filing the bug here, I frankly ignore if upstream is interested > in > | > | this kind of desktop issues; the maintainer has probably better > | > | knowledge than me. Anyway, the patch has almost no maintenance cost, > | > | since it doesn't touch upstream code. > | > > | > That's a pretty narrow view. The desktop file is not distro-specific, so > it > | > should go upstream. > | > | great... > > Well you have to convince John to include it, maybe again in inst/linux/.
I have no problem with that, since it won't interfere with anything else. I think that I'd prefer to put it in inst/etc/linux/ if that would work. Best, John > > Dirk > > | Pietro > | > | > | > > -- > Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
