Ask guys in the military about being forced to become vaccinated.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2026, at 4:40 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
Steve,
You continue to spew falsehoods and ignore facts. Masks did help slow the spread of covid and other viruses. Doctors and scientists prove this but you ignore it. No one was arrested for not wearing a mask but rather for trespassing in spaces that required them. There's a difference. Wear the mask in spaces that required it or leave the space on your own accord. It was never a crime to not mask up. A mask doesn't hurt someone, it only helps protect you and others from spreading viruses.
The vaccine was also never required to exist in our country. Some employers required it but the govt did not hold you down and force you to take it. Again, the choice was yours to take a vaccine or not. If you didn't, you may have been fired or refused service in some places but that's not the govt being involved. It's your employer or private businesses.
You continue to spew garbage and I don't understand why you can't live in reality when facts and science exist.
What's this stuff about new winter coats? You know people in MN earn a decent wage and that coats last more than one year, don't you?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026, 6:28 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
the very second any individual citizen assumes their right to protest grievances with the government allows them to impede another citizens right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, theyve forgone their rights. The constitution enshrines the words on the declaration of independence. Its not a document that gives us any rights whatsoever, it only indicates what rights the government does, or does not have. At some point, the government must decide which citizens rights trump anothers, and in this case and all, it will always be those whose life, liberty and pursuit of happiness are being trampled on by those with selfish motivation.
Most of you arguing this shit wanted people arrested for not wearing paper masks that had zero scientifically proven benefit, you cheered when others were terminated from their employment for not taking unproven chemicals into their bodies that required a manufacturers blanket immunity for them to produce. you have no standing to speak of overreach
This is going to play out as a justified homicide, as did the lady in the car. Was it a shitshow, yep, but theres a consequence of the above mentioned people doing what they do best, cause shitshows.
thousands of brand new winter coats isnt organic. When they realized they didnt have to look at skin tone, or chains to enslave a population, they knew you were coming. How many more bodies are you willing to stack for them?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 5:14 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
they said all offenders, thats been clear since day one, you just want them to have said that, they said their primary focus is on violent offenders but theyre after them all. find one full video, not an out of context clip wher ethey said that was all they were going after. you cant premise your claims on that falsehood
Steve,
What they are doing is so far beyond the job of removing
violent offenders, which is what the avowed purpose of the surge
was claimed to be. But you live in your National Socialist
Workers Party enclave and cheer the overthrow of the
constitution. You are probably on a list of drug abusers and
when they finally get around to you, you will probably go down
claiming "I was all on your side, why me?" Or you are smart and
will enlist in the gestapo hoping that marching alongside protects
you from the chaos you will be part of.
None of what is happening is about illegals at this point. It's
about provoking the insurrection act. But so far the people of MN
are not falling for it. The word PEACEFUL gets put front and
center constantly. And every peaceful killing is another stick
in the craw of everyone else in the country that understands that
this is about the United States staying a representative
democracy. And a place that we can have these arguments without
being locked up in jail or killed.
On 1/26/26 1:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
all he had to do was keep walking
Ice is there because its their job, the left says all they
have to do is leave
he was there for clout
A whole lot of these young guys are gonna end up pilled for
clout
but you goot look at the view count on this, he go that
clout
This is why my younger kids dont and wont have much
electronic, they dont need clout, or to get the pills
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at
3:27 PM Carl Peterson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Mark,
Why does it matter why he was there? Perhaps he was
getting donuts. Perhaps he was going for a walk?
Getting coffee. Perhaps he was going to Far Left of
Center for a gun safety class. It's a free country, at
least for now. Are you going to blame everyone who gets
assaulted by Trump's Republican Gestapo for existing in
their own city wherever the goon squads show up? The
funny thing about living in a war zone is that life just
goes on. You still need to go out and get groceries, go
to work, etc.
On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at
8:16 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF <[email protected]>
wrote:
Jason,
I go back to my original question. Why was he
even there? What possesses an
intelligent man to pick up his gun and go out in
sub-zero temperatures to
observe? All of these observers must
now know there is an increased chance they will
be injured or even killed. Why would you
voluntary go into that type of situation.
They were spraying him with pepper
spray before they even took him to the ground.
This is not a FAFO situation. They do not have a
right to shoot anyone because they have a
holstered weapon on them. These guys are
amateurs and should never have been given a
weapon and any authority.
He violently resisted arrest.
You always are in the wrong and you always
lose. Add gun, dead. Simple. I see the
cops taking a magazine, not a gun. FAFO.
Dont in LEA.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2026,
at 5:58 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]>
wrote:
There is zero evidence
that Pretti was picking a fight. He
had a handgun on him, it was holstered
until the ICE officer removed it
himself. Where are the 2nd amendment
people on this? Now carrying a weapon
(legally, mind you) around law
enforcement is justification for
deadly force? I've watched a couple of
the recordings and the administration
is outright lying about this. Full
stop.
On
Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 5:49 PM Mark -
Myakka Technologies via AF <[email protected]>
wrote:
Trump Bad, Trump Good, ICE Bad,
ICE Good, Renee Bystander, Renee
Domestic Terrorist, Alex
Bystander, Alex Domestic
Terrorist. It is pointless to
discuss these topics. People
are too far entrenched in their
opinions. Nothing one side can
say will ever change the mind of
the other side. The two sides
will watch the exact same videos
and come up with polar opposite
opinions of what happened. Even
if something is proven as
complete fact by one side, it
will be dismissed as false news
or a cover up by the other side.
My question is why Minnesota,
specifically Minneapolis and St.
Paul. Why has it become so
violent and filled with hate
just there. We do not see this
level of hate anywhere else in
the country. ICE seems to be
making arrests without incident
all around the rest of the
country.
What makes an intelligent man
(ICU Nurse) decide he is going
to grab his gun and go fight ICE
agents. What happen to this
man's thought process? Does
anyone here have that level of
hate where they will decide to
grab their gun and venture out
in sub-zero weather looking to
pick a fight with armed ICE
agents?
When did it become acceptable
to storm a church during a
service? Protest outside if you
want, but storming in during a
service. Where did this hate
come from. Trump or Waltz,
depends what side you are on. I
pretty sure the people storming
the church had more hate than
the people inside the church in
this case.
The ICE agents are there to do
a job, like it or not. I don't
understand when it became
acceptable to interfere in an
arrest that you know nothing
about. You may agree or
disagree with Trump's policies,
but that does not mean you can
interfere with law enforcement
doing their job. Like it or
not, believe it or not, they are
arresting some bad people. They
also are making some
questionable arrests. But being
an "observer" that knows nothing
about what the arrest is about
and interfering in not the
answer.
This is only going to get
worst. The ICE agents are very
skittish with good reason. One
could argue that in most
situations they may be in fear
of their lives. It is just a
matter of time before an ICE
agent is killed. There will be
more "observer" deaths. Some
will celebrate while others
rage. End of the day it is very
sad whenever someone dies for no
good reason.
Some will say Trump just has to
back down, others will say Waltz
needs to get control of his
State. I fear neither of these
men will do this and more deaths
will result.
Blame whoever you want,
continue the name calling,
continue the fear mongering,
fuel the hate, It is truly a sad
time in our history.
So what I am hearing
from you, Chuck, between the
lines, is that you abet the
murder of Alex Pretti? That the
actions of ICE in MN is ok
because of the premise of
removing "illegal" immigrants?
Come on I thought you understood
that the legitimacy of a small
good isn't justification of
evil. The lies that were put
forth right off the bat in the
murder of Alex are not, in any
circumstance, justifiable. Not
to someone who truly believes
the Mormon religion.
I am not Mormon, but a large
part of my family is. And they
are some of the best people I am
related to.
I stay in this shit filled room
because I believe that just
leaving doesn't do anything to
clean up the crap.
Your saying that part of what
DJT does justifies the rest of
what he does sounds like those
who looked the other way in
Germany in 1936. OH look he
has saved the economy and built
the autobahn. Look deeper into
the government and economy that
Hitler built and you find it was
all debt financing and without
the war is was just about to
destroy itself. And guess what
is going on in the US right
now. EXACTLY THE SAME.
I consider myself centrist. But
there is now and never a way to
justify the way that ICE is
violating the constitution and
the blessing of that by the
current administration. This
has nothing to do with previous
administrations except for the
contribution that they had in
creating justifications for
people to create what we have
Now.. Now we have to be clear
that what is going on is NOT
ok. And being indifferent to
it is abetting it. Going and
saying that people who are being
aghast at what is going on have
TDS is saying you are on the
side of the federal government
taking people filming or helping
someone up off the street and
killing them is a country that
is good with you. Basically
you are agreeing with the
tenants of a National Socialist
Workers Party. And that anyone
who isn't is subject to Jail and
death. You can kick me out of
this group if you want but
taunting me to leave or shut up
isn't going to work. That's
what bullies do.
I am directing this to you,
Chuck, because you are/were the
heart of this list. The
members here are hear because of
what you gathered around you,
very much including me. To
find out you bless someone of
what DJT does makes it alright
for what else he does sounds
like the teasings of the devil
have embraced you. And that
makes me sad.
On 1/25/26 8:51 AM, Chuck
McCown wrote:
I
used to believe that the
big L Democrats, AKA
"party of the elites"
were full of educated,
well read, literate,
urbane, compassionate
basket weavers – But
when one does ad hominim
postings like this,
devoid of example and
cogent argument – kinda
proves the point that
big L TDS folk are more
hateful and ignorant
than the illiterate,
unwashed, toothless,
rednecked, guns and god,
deplorables.
When your in a shit fill
room, aren't the smartest
people the ones who leave
first?
Hard to think anyone with
a brain would ever support
Trump or MAGA.
All the calls for "no talk
of politics" is delusional
when its this impactful to
everyones lives, typically
spewed by "the right"
cowards and other
deplorables who can't
defend their positions.
On
1/24/26 11:32 AM, Chuck
McCown wrote:
If
I did move the list to
my own servers it
would probably update
faster…. But I am
lazy…..
Interesting,
seems only liberals
get pissed and leave.
I wonder what a
sociologist would have
to say about that…
From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chuck
McCown Sent:
Saturday, January
24, 2026 10:19 AM To:
'AnimalFarm
Microwave Users
Group' <[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG] OT -
Greenland
Yeah….
I love a good pot
stir.
I
think you would fail
the Turing test for
the wrong reasons
though…
Take
your own advice and
“don’t post this
political shit. “
Because
it is all opinion.
Full of falsehoods,
rhetoric, hyperbole
and minor particles
of truth totally
surrounded by
horseshit. Yours
more than most in my
opinion.
Or
just sit back and
enjoy the game.
Or
you can leave. Like
you say, it is a
terrible platform…
Why would you want
to even hang around
here…
From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Ryan Ray Sent: Friday,
January 23, 2026
7:41 PM To:
AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] OT -
Greenland
I
just went back and
looked, and my first
post here was in
2012. So maybe not
20 years here, but
13.
I
can remember some
pretty garbage
times on this list
every time
politics get
raised, even to
the point of
certain people
leaving, because
this is a terrible
platform to
trump(et) your
views. Been on the
internet for over
30 years and not
once have I seen
sane political
discourse on
message boards or
social media. It's
even worse with
astroturfing in
every direction,
literal bots
riling up people
in whatever
direction Russia
or India or China
wants. You've seen
it, you've seen
the bot problems
on all social
media, and yet
David talks about
the USA standing
up to Russia like
they're doing
fucking anything
about it. Other
countries try to
get rid of the
garbage social
media companies
from the USA and
trumpster
unilaterally
threatens tariffs
and cries like a
little baby.
The
fact that the USA
has gone so far
down the path that
you literally have
a man who
apparently can do
whatever they want
with no
consequences is
the broke brain
part of my
statements. A
literal rapist,
thief. Cool. Nice
job. You guys did
it. Build the wall
and ya'll can sort
each-other out.
Pick
and choose your
platforms, figure
out what is real
and what isn't. Go
talk to people in
the physical
world. You'll get
to understand your
fellow man a lot
quicker and if
your aim is to
make change.
OT in the subject line frequently means political
shit. Many have
been hanging
here 20 years.
We can bitch
without having
social media
algorithms
listening.
There is an
animal farm FB
group but it is
unused. I
think..
David, you are honestly clueless, there is nothing
that can be
said to you to
get you to see
the light.
This is
extremely
typical with
your ilk. You
can see it in
your responses
of things like
"libs" or "the
left"
Have a good day, stop posting political shit here.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 4:49 PM David Hannum via AF
<[email protected]>
wrote:
See the response when you give a response that has
thought behind
it! Libs just
resort to
personal
insults. It's
all they
have. No
rebuttals,
just personal
attacks. Sad
. . .
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Hannum via AF
<[email protected]>
wrote:
I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us.
They don't
LIKE lots of
what Trump
does, I think
they see
strength. I
think they see
"America
First" and
they respect
that because
they
understand
that as the
USA goes, they
go. They need
a stron,
unapologetic
US who will
stick their
finger in the
face of Russia
and China.
They need us
to be like
that because
they
can't/won't be
like that for
themselves.
The European
nations are
all followers
- not
leaders.
Biden &
Obama did not
lead. Obama
was
apologetic of
the success of
the US. My
biggest fear
is what comes
AFTER Trump?
Every country
in the world
can't be
equal.
Nothing gets
done. And
China and
Russia aren't
going to play
that game.
Dave
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
It's still
totally
unnecessary,
and does
nothing but
create
confusion and
distrust. If
you want our
allies to
distrust us,
then do shit
like this.
May
actually be
too late. They
already
distrust us,
and China and
Russia are
loving it.
Just look at
what Carney
said.
Stick an
arrow pointing
out of his
ass, and
that's
probably where
we should be
going.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF wrote:
Even if it is what existed before, the world is on
notice that we
are planning
to deploy
defense
systems
there. So
yea, it's
still a win
and Trump can
take a victory
lap (like he
needs a reason
. . . )
Dave
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
Even though
it was
Wednesday, I
will call it a
TACO day
(follow the
stock market).
There are
zero details
of what the
"deal" is or
isn't, and I'm
betting it's
essentially
what existed
before.
Prove me
wrong.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted. Everyone is
happy :).
Rory
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA <[email protected]>
wrote:
David-
I too read that
exact
information
from Facebook
posts word for
word.
From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf
Of David
Hannum via AF Sent:
Wednesday,
January 21,
2026 3:33 PM To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<[email protected]> Cc:
David Hannum
<[email protected]> Subject:
[AFMUG] OT -
Greenland
So many think Trump is a bully on Greenland . . . If
you think he's
so terrible,
you absolutely
don’t know
history.
1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson: explored buying Greenland
& Iceland
(right after
Alaska).
2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took
over
Greenland’s
defense while
Denmark was
occupied.
3) 1946 –
Truman:
offered $100M
in gold to buy
it.
4) Cold War –
Eisenhower →
Kennedy:
nonstop
negotiations
for bases,
radar,
missiles.
5) Post–Cold
War –
Clinton/Bush/Obama:
expanded
Arctic
security &
missile
defense.
6) 2019 –
Trump: said
publicly what
presidents
discussed
privately for
150+ years.
The U.S. didn’t “suddenly” want Greenland.
It’s been
defending it,
negotiating
it, and
embedding
there since
the 1800s.
Greenland =
Arctic power,
shipping
lanes,
missiles,
minerals.
Trump didn’t
invent it.
His crime is
he said the
quiet part out
loud.
=======================
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at
the World
Economic Forum
in Davos,
Switzerland,
that Trump is
spot on about
the importance
of Greenland
to
security. He
said, "When it
comes to the
Arctic, I
think
President
Trump is
right. Other
leaders in
NATO are
right. We need
to defend the
Arctic. There
are eight
countries
bordering on
the Arctic.
Seven are
members of
NATO. That’s
Finland,
Sweden,
Norway,
Denmark,
Iceland,
Canada, and
the U.S.,”
Rutte said.
"And there’s
only one
country
bordering on
the Arctic
outside NATO,
and that’s
Russia. And I
would argue
there is a
ninth country,
which is
China, which
is
increasingly
active in the
Arctic region.
So, President
Trump and
other leaders
are right, we
have to do
more there; we
have to
protect the
Arctic."
