There was choice, jab or retire On Mon, Jan 26, 2026, 7:24 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Talking about how much choice you had. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 26, 2026, at 6:20 PM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I have a scar on my shoulder from doing the vac gun run but I’m guessing > your talking about something else? > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 7:00 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ask guys in the military about being forced to become vaccinated. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 26, 2026, at 4:40 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Steve, >> >> You continue to spew falsehoods and ignore facts. Masks did help slow the >> spread of covid and other viruses. Doctors and scientists prove this but >> you ignore it. No one was arrested for not wearing a mask but rather for >> trespassing in spaces that required them. There's a difference. Wear the >> mask in spaces that required it or leave the space on your own accord. It >> was never a crime to not mask up. A mask doesn't hurt someone, it only >> helps protect you and others from spreading viruses. >> >> The vaccine was also never required to exist in our country. Some >> employers required it but the govt did not hold you down and force you to >> take it. Again, the choice was yours to take a vaccine or not. If you >> didn't, you may have been fired or refused service in some places but >> that's not the govt being involved. It's your employer or private >> businesses. >> >> You continue to spew garbage and I don't understand why you can't live in >> reality when facts and science exist. >> >> What's this stuff about new winter coats? You know people in MN earn a >> decent wage and that coats last more than one year, don't you? >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026, 6:28 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> the very second any individual citizen assumes their right to protest >>> grievances with the government allows them to impede another citizens right >>> to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, theyve forgone their rights. >>> The constitution enshrines the words on the declaration of independence. >>> Its not a document that gives us any rights whatsoever, it only indicates >>> what rights the government does, or does not have. At some point, the >>> government must decide which citizens rights trump anothers, and in this >>> case and all, it will always be those whose life, liberty and pursuit of >>> happiness are being trampled on by those with selfish motivation. >>> Most of you arguing this shit wanted people arrested for not wearing >>> paper masks that had zero scientifically proven benefit, you cheered when >>> others were terminated from their employment for not taking unproven >>> chemicals into their bodies that required a manufacturers blanket immunity >>> for them to produce. you have no standing to speak of overreach >>> This is going to play out as a justified homicide, as did the lady in >>> the car. Was it a shitshow, yep, but theres a consequence of the above >>> mentioned people doing what they do best, cause shitshows. >>> >>> thousands of brand new winter coats isnt organic. When they realized >>> they didnt have to look at skin tone, or chains to enslave a population, >>> they knew you were coming. How many more bodies are you willing to stack >>> for them? >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 5:14 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> they said all offenders, thats been clear since day one, you just want >>>> them to have said that, they said their primary focus is on violent >>>> offenders but theyre after them all. find one full video, not an out of >>>> context clip wher ethey said that was all they were going after. you >>>> cant premise your claims on that falsehood >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 5:10 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Steve, >>>>> What they are doing is so far beyond the job of removing violent >>>>> offenders, which is what the avowed purpose of the surge was claimed to >>>>> be. But you live in your National Socialist Workers Party enclave and >>>>> cheer the overthrow of the constitution. You are probably on a list of >>>>> drug abusers and when they finally get around to you, you will probably go >>>>> down claiming "I was all on your side, why me?" Or you are smart and >>>>> will >>>>> enlist in the gestapo hoping that marching alongside protects you from the >>>>> chaos you will be part of. >>>>> >>>>> None of what is happening is about illegals at this point. It's about >>>>> provoking the insurrection act. But so far the people of MN are not >>>>> falling for it. The word PEACEFUL gets put front and center constantly. >>>>> And every peaceful killing is another stick in the craw of everyone else >>>>> in >>>>> the country that understands that this is about the United States staying >>>>> a >>>>> representative democracy. And a place that we can have these arguments >>>>> without being locked up in jail or killed. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/26/26 1:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>> all he had to do was keep walking >>>>> Ice is there because its their job, the left says all they have to do >>>>> is leave >>>>> he was there for clout >>>>> A whole lot of these young guys are gonna end up pilled for clout >>>>> but you goot look at the view count on this, he go that clout >>>>> >>>>> This is why my younger kids dont and wont have much electronic, they >>>>> dont need clout, or to get the pills >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 3:27 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> Why does it matter why he was there? Perhaps he was getting donuts. >>>>>> Perhaps he was going for a walk? Getting coffee. Perhaps he was going >>>>>> to >>>>>> Far Left of Center for a gun safety class. It's a free country, at least >>>>>> for now. Are you going to blame everyone who gets assaulted by Trump's >>>>>> Republican Gestapo for existing in their own city wherever the goon >>>>>> squads >>>>>> show up? The funny thing about living in a war zone is that life just >>>>>> goes >>>>>> on. You still need to go out and get groceries, go to work, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 8:16 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I go back to my original question. Why was he even there? What >>>>>>> possesses an intelligent man to pick up his gun and go out in sub-zero >>>>>>> temperatures >>>>>>> to observe? All of these observers must now know there is an >>>>>>> increased chance they will be injured or even killed. Why would you >>>>>>> voluntary go into that type of situation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Myakka Communications >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.Myakka.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sunday, January 25, 2026, 8:20:11 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They were spraying him with pepper spray before they even took him >>>>>>> to the ground. This is not a FAFO situation. They do not have a right to >>>>>>> shoot anyone because they have a holstered weapon on them. These guys >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> amateurs and should never have been given a weapon and any authority. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 7:13 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He violently resisted arrest. You always are in the wrong and you >>>>>>>> always lose. Add gun, dead. Simple. I see the cops taking a >>>>>>>> magazine, >>>>>>>> not a gun. FAFO. Dont in LEA. >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2026, at 5:58 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is zero evidence that Pretti was picking a fight. He had a >>>>>>>> handgun on him, it was holstered until the ICE officer removed it >>>>>>>> himself. >>>>>>>> Where are the 2nd amendment people on this? Now carrying a weapon >>>>>>>> (legally, >>>>>>>> mind you) around law enforcement is justification for deadly force? >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>> watched a couple of the recordings and the administration is outright >>>>>>>> lying >>>>>>>> about this. Full stop. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 5:49 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trump Bad, Trump Good, ICE Bad, ICE Good, Renee Bystander, Renee >>>>>>>>> Domestic Terrorist, Alex Bystander, Alex Domestic Terrorist. It is >>>>>>>>> pointless to discuss these topics. People are too far entrenched in >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> opinions. Nothing one side can say will ever change the mind of the >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> side. The two sides will watch the exact same videos and come up with >>>>>>>>> polar opposite opinions of what happened. Even if something is >>>>>>>>> proven as >>>>>>>>> complete fact by one side, it will be dismissed as false news or a >>>>>>>>> cover up >>>>>>>>> by the other side. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My question is why Minnesota, specifically Minneapolis and St. >>>>>>>>> Paul. Why has it become so violent and filled with hate just there. >>>>>>>>> We do >>>>>>>>> not see this level of hate anywhere else in the country. ICE seems >>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>> making arrests without incident all around the rest of the country. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What makes an intelligent man (ICU Nurse) decide he is going to >>>>>>>>> grab his gun and go fight ICE agents. What happen to this man's >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> process? Does anyone here have that level of hate where they will >>>>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>>> to grab their gun and venture out in sub-zero weather looking to pick >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> fight with armed ICE agents? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When did it become acceptable to storm a church during a service? >>>>>>>>> Protest outside if you want, but storming in during a service. Where >>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>> this hate come from. Trump or Waltz, depends what side you are on. I >>>>>>>>> pretty sure the people storming the church had more hate than the >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> inside the church in this case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The ICE agents are there to do a job, like it or not. I don't >>>>>>>>> understand when it became acceptable to interfere in an arrest that >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> know nothing about. You may agree or disagree with Trump's policies, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> that does not mean you can interfere with law enforcement doing their >>>>>>>>> job. >>>>>>>>> Like it or not, believe it or not, they are arresting some bad people. >>>>>>>>> They also are making some questionable arrests. But being an >>>>>>>>> "observer" >>>>>>>>> that knows nothing about what the arrest is about and interfering in >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> the answer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is only going to get worst. The ICE agents are very skittish >>>>>>>>> with good reason. One could argue that in most situations they may >>>>>>>>> be in >>>>>>>>> fear of their lives. It is just a matter of time before an ICE agent >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> killed. There will be more "observer" deaths. Some will celebrate >>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>> others rage. End of the day it is very sad whenever someone dies for >>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>> good reason. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some will say Trump just has to back down, others will say Waltz >>>>>>>>> needs to get control of his State. I fear neither of these men will >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> this and more deaths will result. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blame whoever you want, continue the name calling, continue the >>>>>>>>> fear mongering, fuel the hate, It is truly a sad time in our history. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.Myakka.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sunday, January 25, 2026, 3:01:58 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So what I am hearing from you, Chuck, between the lines, is that >>>>>>>>> you abet the murder of Alex Pretti? That the actions of ICE in MN is >>>>>>>>> ok >>>>>>>>> because of the premise of removing "illegal" immigrants? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Come on I thought you understood that the legitimacy of a small >>>>>>>>> good isn't justification of evil. The lies that were put forth >>>>>>>>> right off >>>>>>>>> the bat in the murder of Alex are not, in any circumstance, >>>>>>>>> justifiable. >>>>>>>>> Not to someone who truly believes the Mormon religion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not Mormon, but a large part of my family is. And they are >>>>>>>>> some of the best people I am related to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I stay in this shit filled room because I believe that just >>>>>>>>> leaving doesn't do anything to clean up the crap. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your saying that part of what DJT does justifies the rest of what >>>>>>>>> he does sounds like those who looked the other way in Germany in >>>>>>>>> 1936. OH >>>>>>>>> look he has saved the economy and built the autobahn. Look deeper >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> the government and economy that Hitler built and you find it was all >>>>>>>>> debt >>>>>>>>> financing and without the war is was just about to destroy itself. >>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>> guess what is going on in the US right now. EXACTLY THE SAME. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I consider myself centrist. But there is now and never a way to >>>>>>>>> justify the way that ICE is violating the constitution and the >>>>>>>>> blessing of >>>>>>>>> that by the current administration. This has nothing to do with >>>>>>>>> previous >>>>>>>>> administrations except for the contribution that they had in creating >>>>>>>>> justifications for people to create what we have Now.. Now we have >>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>> clear that what is going on is NOT ok. And being indifferent to it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> abetting it. Going and saying that people who are being aghast at >>>>>>>>> what is >>>>>>>>> going on have TDS is saying you are on the side of the federal >>>>>>>>> government >>>>>>>>> taking people filming or helping someone up off the street and >>>>>>>>> killing them >>>>>>>>> is a country that is good with you. Basically you are agreeing with >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> tenants of a National Socialist Workers Party. And that anyone who >>>>>>>>> isn't >>>>>>>>> is subject to Jail and death. You can kick me out of this group if >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> want but taunting me to leave or shut up isn't going to work. >>>>>>>>> That's what >>>>>>>>> bullies do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am directing this to you, Chuck, because you are/were the heart >>>>>>>>> of this list. The members here are hear because of what you gathered >>>>>>>>> around you, very much including me. To find out you bless someone >>>>>>>>> of what >>>>>>>>> DJT does makes it alright for what else he does sounds like the >>>>>>>>> teasings of >>>>>>>>> the devil have embraced you. And that makes me sad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/25/26 8:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I used to believe that the big L Democrats, AKA "party of the >>>>>>>>> elites" were full of educated, well read, literate, urbane, >>>>>>>>> compassionate >>>>>>>>> basket weavers – But when one does ad hominim postings like this, >>>>>>>>> devoid of >>>>>>>>> example and cogent argument – kinda proves the point that big L TDS >>>>>>>>> folk >>>>>>>>> are more hateful and ignorant than the illiterate, unwashed, >>>>>>>>> toothless, >>>>>>>>> rednecked, guns and god, deplorables. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> QED >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But yet you remain in the shit filled room… odd. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dietrich Rushing via AF >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 25, 2026 8:05 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Dietrich Rushing <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When your in a shit fill room, aren't the smartest people the ones >>>>>>>>> who leave first? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hard to think anyone with a brain would ever support Trump or >>>>>>>>> MAGA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All the calls for "no talk of politics" is delusional when its >>>>>>>>> this impactful to everyones lives, typically spewed by "the right" >>>>>>>>> cowards >>>>>>>>> and other deplorables who can't defend their positions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/24/26 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I did move the list to my own servers it would probably update >>>>>>>>> faster…. But I am lazy….. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interesting, seems only liberals get pissed and leave. I wonder >>>>>>>>> what a sociologist would have to say about that… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:19 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah…. I love a good pot stir. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think you would fail the Turing test for the wrong reasons >>>>>>>>> though… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:05 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Especially with AIs like me stirring the pot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2026 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You got three choices” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take your own advice and “don’t post this political shit. “ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because it is all opinion. Full of falsehoods, rhetoric, >>>>>>>>> hyperbole and minor particles of truth totally surrounded by >>>>>>>>> horseshit. >>>>>>>>> Yours more than most in my opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or just sit back and enjoy the game. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or you can leave. Like you say, it is a terrible platform… Why >>>>>>>>> would you want to even hang around here… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2026 7:41 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just went back and looked, and my first post here was in 2012. >>>>>>>>> So maybe not 20 years here, but 13. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can remember some pretty garbage times on this list every time >>>>>>>>> politics get raised, even to the point of certain people leaving, >>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>> this is a terrible platform to trump(et) your views. Been on the >>>>>>>>> internet >>>>>>>>> for over 30 years and not once have I seen sane political discourse on >>>>>>>>> message boards or social media. It's even worse with astroturfing in >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> direction, literal bots riling up people in whatever direction Russia >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> India or China wants. You've seen it, you've seen the bot problems on >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> social media, and yet David talks about the USA standing up to Russia >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> they're doing fucking anything about it. Other countries try to get >>>>>>>>> rid of >>>>>>>>> the garbage social media companies from the USA and trumpster >>>>>>>>> unilaterally >>>>>>>>> threatens tariffs and cries like a little baby. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fact that the USA has gone so far down the path that you >>>>>>>>> literally have a man who apparently can do whatever they want with no >>>>>>>>> consequences is the broke brain part of my statements. A literal >>>>>>>>> rapist, >>>>>>>>> thief. Cool. Nice job. You guys did it. Build the wall and ya'll can >>>>>>>>> sort >>>>>>>>> each-other out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pick and choose your platforms, figure out what is real and what >>>>>>>>> isn't. Go talk to people in the physical world. You'll get to >>>>>>>>> understand >>>>>>>>> your fellow man a lot quicker and if your aim is to make change. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 5:51 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OT in the subject line frequently means political shit. Many have >>>>>>>>> been hanging here 20 years. We can bitch without having social media >>>>>>>>> algorithms listening. There is an animal farm FB group but it is >>>>>>>>> unused. >>>>>>>>> I think.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2026, at 5:56 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David, you are honestly clueless, there is nothing that can be >>>>>>>>> said to you to get you to see the light. This is extremely typical >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> your ilk. You can see it in your responses of things like "libs" or >>>>>>>>> "the >>>>>>>>> left" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a good day, stop posting political shit here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 4:49 PM David Hannum via AF < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See the response when you give a response that has thought behind >>>>>>>>> it! Libs just resort to personal insults. It's all they have. No >>>>>>>>> rebuttals, just personal attacks. Sad . . . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026, 7:44 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <image.png> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Hannum via AF < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us. They don't >>>>>>>>> LIKE lots of what Trump does, I think they see strength. I think >>>>>>>>> they see >>>>>>>>> "America First" and they respect that because they understand that as >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> USA goes, they go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who will stick >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> finger in the face of Russia and China. They need us to be like that >>>>>>>>> because they can't/won't be like that for themselves. The European >>>>>>>>> nations >>>>>>>>> are all followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama did not lead. Obama >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> apologetic of the success of the US. My biggest fear is what comes >>>>>>>>> AFTER >>>>>>>>> Trump? Every country in the world can't be equal. Nothing gets >>>>>>>>> done. And >>>>>>>>> China and Russia aren't going to play that game. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's still totally unnecessary, and does nothing but create >>>>>>>>> confusion and distrust. If you want our allies to distrust us, then >>>>>>>>> do shit >>>>>>>>> like this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> May actually be too late. They already distrust us, and China and >>>>>>>>> Russia are loving it. Just look at what Carney said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass, and that's probably where >>>>>>>>> we should be going. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even if it is what existed before, the world is on notice that we >>>>>>>>> are planning to deploy defense systems there. So yea, it's still a >>>>>>>>> win and >>>>>>>>> Trump can take a victory lap (like he needs a reason . . . ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even though it was Wednesday, I will call it a TACO day (follow >>>>>>>>> the stock market). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are zero details of what the "deal" is or isn't, and I'm >>>>>>>>> betting it's essentially what existed before. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Prove me wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted. Everyone is happy :). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I too read that exact information from Facebook posts word for >>>>>>>>> word. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum >>>>>>>>> via AF >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2026 3:33 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Cc:* David Hannum <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So many think Trump is a bully on Greenland . . . If you think >>>>>>>>> he's so terrible, you absolutely don’t know history. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson: explored buying Greenland & Iceland >>>>>>>>> (right after Alaska). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took over Greenland’s defense while Denmark >>>>>>>>> was occupied. >>>>>>>>> 3) 1946 – Truman: offered $100M in gold to buy it. >>>>>>>>> 4) Cold War – Eisenhower → Kennedy: nonstop negotiations for >>>>>>>>> bases, radar, missiles. >>>>>>>>> 5) Post–Cold War – Clinton/Bush/Obama: expanded Arctic security & >>>>>>>>> missile defense. >>>>>>>>> 6) 2019 – Trump: said publicly what presidents discussed >>>>>>>>> privately for 150+ years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The U.S. didn’t “suddenly” want Greenland. >>>>>>>>> It’s been defending it, negotiating it, and embedding there since >>>>>>>>> the 1800s. >>>>>>>>> Greenland = Arctic power, shipping lanes, missiles, minerals. >>>>>>>>> Trump didn’t invent it. His crime is he said the quiet part out >>>>>>>>> loud. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ======================= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at the World >>>>>>>>> Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that Trump is spot on about the >>>>>>>>> importance of Greenland to security. He said, "When it comes to the >>>>>>>>> Arctic, I think President Trump is right. Other leaders in NATO are >>>>>>>>> right. >>>>>>>>> We need to defend the Arctic. There are eight countries bordering on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Arctic. Seven are members of NATO. That’s Finland, Sweden, Norway, >>>>>>>>> Denmark, >>>>>>>>> Iceland, Canada, and the U.S.,” Rutte said. >>>>>>>>> "And there’s only one country bordering on the Arctic outside >>>>>>>>> NATO, and that’s Russia. And I would argue there is a ninth country, >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> is China, which is increasingly active in the Arctic region. 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