Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-12 Thread Krikofer
What you all are saying is new to me. However, I do know that in DOS session will show up 8.3 filenames and in Windows 9x session will show up as long file names but still stored as 8.3. Copying from ext2 partition to vfat (fat16) went without a hitch only if you deselect preserve attributes or y

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-08 Thread Mike Burger
Oops...that's the "EA DATA.SF" file. Sorry. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Burger wrote: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:27:21 -0600 (CST), Avi Aumick wrote: > > >> > NTFS may be derived from HPFS, but if you create a long filename like > >> > in Unix, it is a true long file name. It can not be directly c

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-08 Thread Michael Burger
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:27:21 -0600 (CST), Avi Aumick wrote: >> > NTFS may be derived from HPFS, but if you create a long filename like >> > in Unix, it is a true long file name. It can not be directly copied to a >> > dos os. The name must be changed to an 8.3 type format. In NTFS, the long >> > f

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-08 Thread Avi Aumick
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Mike Burger wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Avi Aumick wrote: > > > > If I'm not mistaken, NTFS also derives from OS/2's HPFS. > > > > > > > > NTFS may be derived from HPFS, but if you create a long filename like > > in Unix, it is a true long file name. It can not be directly co

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Mike Burger
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Avi Aumick wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, NTFS also derives from OS/2's HPFS. > > > > > NTFS may be derived from HPFS, but if you create a long filename like > in Unix, it is a true long file name. It can not be directly copied to a > dos os. The name must be changed to an 8.

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Avi Aumick
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, 04:47 - Mike Burger wrote: > > > Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > That's why M$ win stinks... > > > > > > Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Even NT found much > > of its > > > rooting in DOS. The emulation doe

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:47:07AM -, Mike Burger wrote: > Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Er--not really. As of Win9x, DOS is used as the initial program loader, but by the time Windows is running, it's replaced the DOS with its own kernel. A m

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Burke, Thomas G. wrote: > That's a matter of opinion... Well, MS stinks, but from an electrical > engineer's point of view, it's a whole lot easier to build hardware for a > DOS box, as I can write software that talks directly to the drivers. > Granted, I can't do that anymor

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Tony Molloy
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001, you wrote: > I did not get this from something I read. I have written device drivers in > both. Their underlying subsystems are almost identical. > > Paul Anderson > Of course. They were both designed by teams led by Brian? Cutler who went from Digital to M$. Tony. ---

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Paul Anderson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Linux and viruses I read that fluff piece once, too. On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Paul Anderson wrote: > Actually NT's Internals are almost identical to VMS. > > Paul Anderson > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMA

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Mike Burger
gt; Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux and viruses > > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, 04:47 - Mike Burger wrote: > > > Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > That's why M$ win stinks... > > >

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Mike Burger
You are not mistaken. On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, 04:47 - Mike Burger wrote: > > > Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > That's why M$ win stinks... > > > > > > Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Even NT found much > > of its > > > rooting in

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Burke, Thomas G.
#x27;s why I still have a couple of DOS boxes around - for testing hardware. > -Original Message- > From: Adlar Kim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux and viruses > > That's why

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Paul Anderson
Actually NT's Internals are almost identical to VMS. Paul Anderson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Silviu Cojocaru Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux and viruses On Wed, 7 Mar 2001,

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-07 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, 04:47 - Mike Burger wrote: > Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > That's why M$ win stinks... > > > > Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Even NT found much > of its > > rooting in DOS. The emulation doesn't help much either :) > > Actually, NT has its roots in OS

RE: Linux and viruses

2001-03-06 Thread WStorey
Title: RE: Linux and viruses >Because the bulk of virii were either written for DOS, written to infect >DOS/Windows executables, or are written in Microsoft's visual basic >scripting language. Don't you mean Microsoft Virus builder scripting language? :) Wayne

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-06 Thread Mike Burger
Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > That's why M$ win stinks... > > Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Even NT found much of its > rooting in DOS. The emulation doesn't help much either :) Actually, NT has its roots in OS/2. The very essence of the kernel is the OS/2 kernel. At least

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-06 Thread Statux
> That's why M$ win stinks... Well.. it's DOS. Windows runs under DOS. Even NT found much of its rooting in DOS. The emulation doesn't help much either :) now adays.. computers have become (ironically) fake. Everything (Windows-wise) seems to be emulated (meaning no native support, hence why not

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-06 Thread Adlar Kim
That's why M$ win stinks... >From: Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: RedHat List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Linux and viruses >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:04:27 -0500 (EST) > >Because the bulk of virii were either w

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-05 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi to all > can anybody explain me, even in a few words, why is Linux so robust > against viruses ?? Is there an intrinsic robustness ??? > > I'm a Linux newbye, and I just heard of a "Ramen" virus or something > similar, but nothing else > if I

Re: Linux and viruses

2001-03-05 Thread Mike Burger
Because the bulk of virii were either written for DOS, written to infect DOS/Windows executables, or are written in Microsoft's visual basic scripting language. Linux's memory model doesn't really allow for the DOS boot sector or executable virii, because in most cases they require access to the

Linux and viruses

2001-03-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi to all can anybody explain me, even in a few words, why is Linux so robust against viruses ?? Is there an intrinsic robustness ??? I'm a Linux newbye, and I just heard of a "Ramen" virus or something similar, but nothing else if I think to the tons of Windows-viruses Thank you