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Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Craig Russell
us that this is the right thing to do, it should be >> "easy". >> >> Craig >> >>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 07:06, Andrew Lamb wrote: >>> >>> I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. >>> >>>

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Wetmore
hen > prepare a resolution for the board. > > If there is consensus that this is the right thing to do, it should be > "easy". > > Craig > > > On Dec 15, 2023, at 07:06, Andrew Lamb wrote: > > > > I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Lamb
is consensus that this is the right thing to do, it should be > "easy". > > Craig > > > On Dec 15, 2023, at 07:06, Andrew Lamb wrote: > > > > I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. > > > > Can someone point to i

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Craig Russell
apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. > > Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose > “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? > > Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache Arrow &

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Lamb
approval from PMC, > proposing a new PMC/committer set. > > Regards > JB > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 4:06 PM Andrew Lamb wrote: > > > > I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. > > > > Can someone point to information about the proced

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
logize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. > > Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose > “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? > > Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache Arrow

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. RESOLVED, that the Apache Arrow Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Drill Arrow sub-project; and be it

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
gt;> search.) > >> > >> Julian > >> > >>>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 7:09 AM, Andrew Lamb > wrote: > >>> > >>> I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this > question. > >>> > >>> Can someone

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Dave Fisher
t;>> I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. >>> >>> Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose >>> “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? >>> >>> Specifically,

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
nor ways, such as a name > search.) > > Julian > > > On Dec 15, 2023, at 7:09 AM, Andrew Lamb wrote: > > > > I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. > > > > Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose >

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
ask this question. > > Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose > “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? > > Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache Arrow > DataFusion”[1] sub project to its own Top Le

[DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache Arrow DataFusion”[1] sub

Re: Omid&Tephra -> Phoenix sub-project next steps

2019-11-19 Thread Josh Elser
Thanks, Alan. Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19460 as a starting point. On 11/15/19 2:14 PM, Alan Gates wrote: I think you should go ahead. Everyone's voted on it, no one made any comments on the discussion thread on general@, and Justin's been aware of what's going on the w

Re: Omid&Tephra -> Phoenix sub-project next steps

2019-11-15 Thread Alan Gates
I think you should go ahead. Everyone's voted on it, no one made any comments on the discussion thread on general@, and Justin's been aware of what's going on the whole way. Alan. On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:32 AM Josh Elser wrote: > I'm a bit confused about where we go from this point. > > Give

Omid&Tephra -> Phoenix sub-project next steps

2019-11-14 Thread Josh Elser
I'm a bit confused about where we go from this point. Given the doc[1] that Alan shared last time, we are good to move ahead with the logistical changes. Further, the next guide[2] simply says that VP Phoenix (me) should coordinate with VP Incubator. Should I go ahead and file the TLP Paren

RE: Proposal for an Apache Hama sub-project

2017-03-02 Thread Sachin Ghai
com/file/d/0B7mbLUemi6LFbzFQLXB1Z1p2dm8/view?usp=sharing -Original Message- From: Edward Capriolo [mailto:edlinuxg...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 March 2017 09:05 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal for an Apache Hama sub-project On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Edward J. Y

Re: Proposal for an Apache Hama sub-project

2017-03-02 Thread Ted Dunning
Sub projects are frowned upon. It is possible for a project to graduate as part of another project from. The incubator, but that is very unusual. Graduating to a very quiet project like hama would be even more unusual. A better course would be to simply create a new incubator project. Worry about

Re: Proposal for an Apache Hama sub-project

2017-03-02 Thread Edward Capriolo
her this approach is also fit for > modern microservice architecture? In my opinion, this can be discussed and > cooked in Hama community as a sub-project until it's mature enough (CC'ing > general@i.a.o. I'll be happy to read more feedbacks from ASF incubator > community)

RE: Proposal for an Apache Hama sub-project

2017-02-27 Thread Edward J. Yoon
this can be discussed and cooked in Hama community as a sub-project until it's mature enough (CC'ing general@i.a.o. I'll be happy to read more feedbacks from ASF incubator community). P.S., It seems you referred to incubation proposal template. There's no need to add me as initia

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Re: [pTLP] Apache Commons sub-mailing lists discussion

2015-01-16 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
le of clear sub-projects. http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html even links to exactly to the umbrella project Jakarta. I removed the confusing Jakarta reference and have updated it slightly - see staging: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/incub

Re: [pTLP] Apache Commons sub-mailing lists discussion

2015-01-16 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > Relating to IncubatorV2 and pTLP proposals - on Apache Commons I seem > to have spurred a discussion about making sub-mailing lists (And thus > forming sub-communities) - but keep the formalities on the general > list

[pTLP] Apache Commons sub-mailing lists discussion

2015-01-16 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Relating to IncubatorV2 and pTLP proposals - on Apache Commons I seem to have spurred a discussion about making sub-mailing lists (And thus forming sub-communities) - but keep the formalities on the general list. (email below) http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-dev/201501.mbox

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2014-08-09 Thread sebb
a TLP. >> >> >> >> Having said that, Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and >> after >> >> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to >> allow >> >> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apach

Re: [DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-28 Thread InJun Song
, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote: > > > > 2014-04-28 10:45 GMT+02:00 Ted Dunning : > > Edward, >> >> Sub-projects are generally frowned on. Incubator projects can graduate >> eventually to a top-level project, but starting a project as a sub is not >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-28 Thread Tommaso Teofili
2014-04-28 10:45 GMT+02:00 Ted Dunning : > Edward, > > Sub-projects are generally frowned on. Incubator projects can graduate > eventually to a top-level project, but starting a project as a sub is not > so good. The incubator docs on this are pretty good reading. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-28 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Thanks Ted. I generally agree with your suggestion. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Edward, > > Sub-projects are generally frowned on. Incubator projects can graduate > eventually to a top-level project, but starting a project as a sub is not > so good.

Re: [DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-28 Thread Ted Dunning
Edward, Sub-projects are generally frowned on. Incubator projects can graduate eventually to a top-level project, but starting a project as a sub is not so good. The incubator docs on this are pretty good reading. But if the committer community for your real-time BSP is (or can be) the same as

[DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-27 Thread Edward J. Yoon
d like to start to move from github to ASF soon, although this is very *early* stage. Because, it's highly related with Apache Hama and others. Hama sub-module or sub-project, (or Apache incubator?). Which is best you think? I'm also CC'ing general@i.a.o to see more feedbacks (from A

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread David Nalley
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > What we really need for podlings is a "bill of > rights" towards what they can expect of their > mentors, because too few of them actually are > willing to question the participation of the > people who signed up to mentor them and that's > n

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Ross Gardler
27;d like proponents of this thread to explain in concrete detail: > What is the problem to be solved? > What is the base cause of that problem? > How does splitting the Incubator in to sub-groups of technology solves the > cause of this problem? > > > Regards, > Alan > >

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
of disempowerment we too > often dish out. > > From: Alan Cabrera > To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaef

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
haefer >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:29 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> What we really need for podlings is a "bill of >> rights" towards what they can expect

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > What we really need for podlings is a "bill of > rights" towards what they can expect of their > mentors, because too few of them actually are > willing to question the participation of the > people who signed up to mentor them and that's > not h

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide > community best practice guidance. But then separate mailing lists/groups > would provide actual oversight of podlings (incoming, mentoring, graduating). > These

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
___ > From: Alan Cabrera >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:04 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Upayavira wrote: > >> I think there's merit in the i

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
really our problem? Who needs this greater sense of ownership and identification? In short, I'd like proponents of this thread to explain in concrete detail: What is the problem to be solved? What is the base cause of that problem? How does splitting the Incubator in to sub-groups of technol

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
27;t ever learn from our past mistakes. > > From: Upayavira >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:16 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > >I think there's merit in the id

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Upayavira
I think there's merit in the idea of multiple, smaller incubators, so long as it is set up in a way that doesn't involve prospective podlings playing the incubators against each other. Smaller groups, with smaller membership, gives the chance of a greater sense of ownership and identification, whi

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 6/14/2013 8:25 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: ... Do we really want jakarta@i.a.o or hadoop@i.a.o? ... ROTFLOL! But the Jakarta project was so fun! - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For ad

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Ross Gardler
I proposed this a year or so ago. It was fairly soundly rejected for a number of reasons, the two I recall (because I felt they had significant merit) were: a) adds additional hierarchy b) impossible to decide where a project best fits These two things together give the potential for silos. I do

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Shane, On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the > concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, > based on technology areas? > > I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever w

Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, based on technology areas? I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide community best practice guidance. B

Re: Sub-project graduation question

2012-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
As per recent email, this is, formally, an act of the IPMC to certify that the IP is clear and the community good Apache citizens, followed by an act of the accepting project, and the board expects that the accepting project will report on the process promptly. I'm sure various will correct me if

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
ergy with Apache Tuscany, and > after > >> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to > allow > >> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > >> > >> Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > >> *http://s.ap

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
activity >> low, compared to what is required for graduating it as a TLP. >> >> Having said that, Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after >> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow >> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-pro

Sub-project graduation question

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
Just trying to clarify, based on [1] it seems that when a project is graduating into an existing TLP, once the IPMC vote is done, there is no need to seek Board approval and the hand-over and infrastructure tasks can start happening. Is that the correct understanding ? [1] http://incubator.apache

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
s a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > > Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation* > *http://s.apa

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
s a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > > Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation* > *http://s.apa

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-22 Thread Sagara Gunathunga
free time, which makes the level of activity >> low, compared to what is required for graduating it as a TLP. >> >> Having said that, Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after >> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow >>

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-22 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
s a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > > Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation* > *http://s.apa

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Suresh Marru
cubator podlings. > > I'm with Matt: the vote is still needed to state "this community/code > can be moved into the ASF". Since incubation is more about learning the apache way in practice, I also think IPMC will be a better position to gauge it then the target PM

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Senaka Fernando
said that, Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > > Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-g

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Cabrera
aving said that, Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > > Nuvem Graduation Vote thread > *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-g

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Greg Stein
es not need to be involved. However, I will state the recipient PMC better issue a Board report *that month*, whether it is on their normal reporting schedule or not. Activities like that is something that needs to be very visible. (the Board would see it in the Incubator report, but it should also

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > So, permit me to ask another, related, question. It seems to me that > the IPMC is concerned with the fact that a project is ready to leave, > but not so much which where it is going. A proposal to form a new TLP > is, I think, a straightf

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Raymond Feng
+1 from me. Thanks, Raymond On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:06 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> Please cast your votes: > > [x] +1 Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany >

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
On 11/21/12 7:26 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: >On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> On 21 November 2012 10:36, Bertrand Delacretaz >>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) >>> wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
uvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after >discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow >graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. > >Nuvem Graduation Vote thread >*http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation* >*http://s.apa

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 21 November 2012 10:36, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) >> wrote: >> > ...sub-"products", or the ability for a PMC to release multiple >&

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Ross Gardler
On 21 November 2012 10:36, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > wrote: > > ...sub-"products", or the ability for a PMC to release multiple > "products", like e.g., > > like Lucene does now (Lu

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
> [X ] +1 Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > ...sub-"products", or the ability for a PMC to release multiple "products", > like e.g., > like Lucene does now (Lucene-Java is a product; Solr is a product; PyLucene > is a product), > tha

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > Please cast your votes: [x] +1 Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsub

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Arun C Murthy
Could agree more with Chris and Ross. I've seen, first hand, at Hadoop the behaviour of significant portions of the PMC not being present in one of the 3 sub-projects we have (HDFS, YARN, MapReduce) and has led to significant issues in the community and in the PMC. Along with folks like

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > This is good point of view. > > I think one may also take a user cases and product distribution > perspectives into account. For example, when both projects naturally come > in one binary release, this may be feasible to have them joined. > >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > ...The idea is to have Nuvem become something like Tuscany Cloud Components, > and the active Nuvem PPMC members, which mostly are already Tuscany PMC, > will be joining the Tuscany PMC. > > Does that answer your doubts ?... Yes, thanks! -

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Luciano Resende
ow > > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany > > Can you clarify what this means? Do all members of the Nuvem PPMC > become Tuscany PMC members? > > -Bertrand > > The idea is to have Nuvem become something like Tuscany Cloud Components, and t

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Fromt he peanut gallery of someone who has participated in a number of sub-projects over the years (Nutch, Tika, Solr, Hadoop, etc.): I don't think they have a big place at the ASF. The word "project" implies "community". Sub communities == umbrella projects == pain,

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > ...Where I start to get worried is when a sub-project takes on a life of > its own and significant portions of the parent PMC are not interested > in the sub-project... I didn't notice this new thread, but my reply in the oth

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...Bertrand, this is a great opportunity to clarify the board's attitude > toward 'subprojects'. Ever since the campaign to dismantle umbrellas, > I've been confused about what structures the board would find > reasonable I don't kno

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Luciano Resende > wrote: > >>> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > >>> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to > allow > >>> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany > >

Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Ross Gardler
ion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow >>> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany >> >> Can you clarify what this means? Do all members of the Nuvem PPMC >> become Tuscany PMC members? > > Bertrand, this is a gr

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Benson Margulies
of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany > > Can you clarify what this means? Do all members of the Nuvem PPMC > become Tuscany PMC members? Bertrand, this is a great opportunity to clarify the board's attitude toward 'subprojects'. Ever since the campaign to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany Can you clarify

[VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-19 Thread Luciano Resende
graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany. Nuvem Graduation Vote thread *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation* *http://s.apache.org/nuvem-graduation-result* Tuscany Graduation Vote thread *http://s.apache.org/tuscany-accept-nuvem* *http://s.apache.org/tuscany-accept-nuvem-result

Re: [VOTE] - Establish YARN as a sub-project of Apache Hadoop

2012-08-08 Thread Arun C Murthy
anks, >> Arun >> >> On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: >> >>> As we discussed in the previous thread, I'd like to call a vote to >>> establish YARN as a sub-project (it's the best *term* we have to describe >>> it in ou

Re: [VOTE] - Establish YARN as a sub-project of Apache Hadoop

2012-08-08 Thread Arun C Murthy
start the necessary process to move on this. > > thanks, > Arun > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > >> As we discussed in the previous thread, I'd like to call a vote to establish >> YARN as a sub-project (it's the best *term* we ha

[IP CLEARANCE] Sigil sub-project contribution to Apache Felix

2009-07-07 Thread Richard S. Hall
Hello, I would like to request IP clearance for the Sigil sub-project contribution to Felix from Paremus; the IP clearance form is here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-sigil.html Thanks a lot. -> rich

Re: 'protocols' sub-module of MINA

2006-07-03 Thread peter royal
On Jul 3, 2006, at 12:10 PM, James Strachan wrote: On 7/3/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How timely...i've just spent the last hour or two today looking at AsyncWeb after Dan Diephouse telling me about it at ApacheCon in Dublin. I'm interested how this could be used by Tuscany or Syn

Re: 'protocols' sub-module of MINA

2006-07-03 Thread James Strachan
On 7/3/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How timely...i've just spent the last hour or two today looking at AsyncWeb after Dan Diephouse telling me about it at ApacheCon in Dublin. I'm interested how this could be used by Tuscany or Synapse, so moving it to Apache sounds good to me. Anyo

Re: 'protocols' sub-module of MINA

2006-07-03 Thread peter royal
On Jul 3, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Trustin Lee wrote: Bringing in AsyncWeb and other possible future contributions will make this project quite too big to fit into a subproject. We might need an incubation process to find a better place for MINA eventually. Any idea? I will CC this message to

Re: 'protocols' sub-module of MINA

2006-07-03 Thread ant elder
How timely...i've just spent the last hour or two today looking at AsyncWeb after Dan Diephouse telling me about it at ApacheCon in Dublin. I'm interested how this could be used by Tuscany or Synapse, so moving it to Apache sounds good to me. ...ant On 7/3/06, Trustin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: 'protocols' sub-module of MINA

2006-07-03 Thread Trustin Lee
On 7/4/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 3, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Irving, Dave wrote: >> So, my proposal is, how about we start creating module(s) in >> MINA for protocols? >> > > Of course, Im biased - but It would be a shame if we re-wrote http > support on top of Mina over again,

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-15 Thread Ismael Ghalimi
Noel, Thanks. We will review and provide signed documents ASAP. -Ismael On 2/15/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i think that's the doc) on > > behalf of Intalio for OpenEJB. > > See: http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants > > Ismael shoul

RE: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i think that's the doc) on > behalf of Intalio for OpenEJB. See: http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants Ismael should also submit a CCLA (see the same page) if one will be necessary for Intalio employees to satisfy their obligations under the terms of their

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-15 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David, The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least one of them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of the CLAs and a Software Grant? Noel or anyone, Ismael needs to do a Software Grant (i th

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:54 PM, David Crossley wrote: David Blevins wrote: Is it possible to do a quick cross-check of our committers list and the CLAs on file? Keep in mind I have no idea if what i'm asking is hard. See the list at http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html The top table i

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: > David Blevins wrote: > > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > > >David, > > > > > >The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least > > >one of > > >them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of > > >the CLAs > > >and a Software Grant? > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread David Crossley
David Blevins wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >David, > > > >The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least > >one of > >them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of > >the CLAs > >and a Software Grant? > > Ok. I made nearly all the OpenEJB commit

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David, The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least one of them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of the CLAs and a Software Grant? Ok. I made nearly all the OpenEJB committers sign CLAs wa

RE: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David, The mentors should have karma to setup the status file. At least one of them has karma to the SVN access control lists. Do we have all of the CLAs and a Software Grant? If so, *after* the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has been created, we can import the code under incubator/openejb.

Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-14 Thread David Blevins
So, it's been about two weeks. It seems like this is all the discussion we are going to get. What is the next step? -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-09 Thread Brian McCallister
On Feb 8, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: At graduation, the community will decide its final resting place? Interesting choice of words =) -Brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 2/8/2006 5:50 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Alan, Please note that this is not a Geronimo sub-project. Incubator projects are just that: Incubator projects whose final destination will be determined at graduation. Amongst other issues, we want to be inviting and inclusive of whomever wants

Re: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 2/8/2006 5:16 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan D. Cabrera wrote: The only person who's stepped up and volunteered is Geir. Is there anyone else? Are two mentors enough? I'm there also. Yep. Thanks Ken! Regards, Alan

RE: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan, Please note that this is not a Geronimo sub-project. Incubator projects are just that: Incubator projects whose final destination will be determined at graduation. Amongst other issues, we want to be inviting and inclusive of whomever wants to participate, including other ASF projects

Re: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-08 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > The only person who's stepped up and volunteered is Geir. Is there > anyone else? Are two mentors enough? I'm there also. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opin

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