I'll let it stew for a coupla days before I start charging in, but yeah something along these lines will surely address the palpable feeling of disempowerment we too often dish out.
>________________________________ > From: Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:29 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> What we really need for podlings is a "bill of >> rights" towards what they can expect of their >> mentors, because too few of them actually are >> willing to question the participation of the >> people who signed up to mentor them and that's >> not helping anybody. > >Great idea. > >This spring I sent out personal messages to various podling members and asked >them what they thought were problems with the incubator, if there were any. >(There's a novel idea, ask the podlings what they think the problems are. >Sorry, but slogging through all these emails instead of watching re-runs of >Firefly irritates me. :) ) I got an earful. > >Other than their concern for diversity/activity, the two biggest reported >problems are timely resolution "infrastructure" requests and they way we seem >to chronically make up and debase shit in the middle of voting. As a podling >incubates we seem to compulsively debate processes, rules, etc., ten feet >ahead of the podling train. > >We're working on the automation bits. > >Your document on what podlings can expect, in terms of to expect and what >"noise" they can ignore during incubation would be fantastic. I will commit >to helping you out with this. > > >Regards, >Alan > > >