[RESULT] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Brett Porter
The following votes were received: IPMC: +1 Niclas +1 Brett +1 Gav +1 Wendy +1 Luciano +1 Craig +1 Davanum The following additional votes were received: +1 Mark (ASF Member) +1 Dennis (ASF Member, proposed mentor) The vote has passed. I'll start by getting the mailing lists set

RE: svn commit: r984937 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/deltacloud/

2010-08-12 Thread Gav...
> -Original Message- > From: cctriel...@apache.org [mailto:cctriel...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 6:05 AM > To: public-comm...@incubator.apache.org > Subject: svn commit: r984937 - /incubator/public/trunk/site- > publish/deltacloud/ > > Author: cctrieloff > Date: Thu Aug 1

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Fair enough :) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Dims, On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under*

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 -- dims Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: +1 Craig On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Dims, On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of the microscope and lo

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other podlings...my 2 cents. than

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes after 5 days (120 hours). Than

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Craig L Russell > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 2:21:44 PM > Subject: Re: an experiment > > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for > > the projects

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock to Ma

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Luciano Resende
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: > Hi, > > We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now > been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. > > With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes after 5 days (120 hours). > > Thanks,

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Niclas Hedhman > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 1:13:41 AM > Subject: Re: an experiment > Yes, definitely more controversial. Pros would include greater > exposure to the Incubator noise, learning from others, becoming part > o

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Stefan Bodewig > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 12:43:59 AM > Subject: Re: an experiment > There isn't anything that would stop a mentor from proposing a podling > committer who is not an ASF member as an IPMC member today, is

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2010-08-12 02:31, Brett Porter wrote: > > > On 07/08/2010, at 1:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now >> been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. >> >> With the weekend included, I'll t

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for > the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that > the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process > for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the cl

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Niall, On 8/12/10 2:52 AM, "Niall Pemberton" wrote: > Clearly then there are small TLPs that operate effectively. However > any TLP that can't get 3 PMC votes is effectively dead and I don't > want to see RAT end up in that situation in a year or two. Seeing only > 3 votes on the RAT 0.7 rele

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < > chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required of >> all the Incubator projects, but pretty widely integra

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> On 2010-08-11, Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >>> The real point though is not size - its *activity*. >> >> [absolutely correct observation of low activity snipped] >> >>> My concern is if RAT

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Ant, > > My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals from ppmc's > who end up in ipmc would help build bridges between podlings and will help > get lessons learned (when any ppmc has issues/problems/roadblocks) back t

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub - Original Message > From: Brett Porter > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 2:31:25 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator > > > > On 07/08/2010, at 1:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We have finalised th

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Big +1 to all Greg's comments below. Let's just try it - I don't see a huge effort/loss ratio - I think we'd all be surprised at how well folks are at responding to requests if we just ask them to. Cheers, Chris On 8/11/10 10:15 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 19:24, Joe Sc