On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12, Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> wrote: >> On 2010-08-11, Niall Pemberton wrote: >> >>> The real point though is not size - its *activity*. >> >> [absolutely correct observation of low activity snipped] >> >>> My concern is if RAT goes TLP then it may be a small step away from >>> not being able to get 3 PMC votes. >> >> I understand that and share the concern to some degree. >> >> RAT has probably never been the primary project for any of its >> contributors. Most of us jumped in to scratch specific itches and other >> than that RAT is a side project somewhere down the list of projects we >> contribute to regularly. Pretty far down. >> >> That being said, we are aware of the problem and have tried to address >> that by adding four more committers last December, that doesn't seem to >> have been enough. >> >> One reason probably is that RAT does what it is supposed to do well >> enough for most of us - the feedback of people who said RAT was so >> important to them that it should become a TLP indicates it is good >> enough for most other people as well. In a way RAT has already been >> mature and in maintenance mode when it entered incubation. >> >> So yes, development activity is low. >> >> OTOH patches get applied and releases are made if there is anything to >> fix. I'm sure we could have gotten more people to vote if it had been >> necessary on the last release, it just wasn't necessary so people >> preferred to work on other things rather than checking releases. > > Right. it is being properly managed. > > Just like the Apache Tcl TLP. And Apache Excalibur. And Apache Perl. > ... could probably find a few more low-activity TLPs, but I believe > you see my point. It isn't about activity either. It is about whether > you have eyeballs on the community and the codebase.
Clearly then there are small TLPs that operate effectively. However any TLP that can't get 3 PMC votes is effectively dead and I don't want to see RAT end up in that situation in a year or two. Seeing only 3 votes on the RAT 0.7 release from its PPMC raises that concern. Niall > Cheers, > -g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
