----- Original Message ----
> From: Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 2:21:44 PM
> Subject: Re: an experiment
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> > The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
> > the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
> > the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
> > for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
> > to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.
> >
> Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on
> unrealistic expectations, this proposal is fairly modest.
> Here's the current process for getting new committers into an incubating
>project:
>
> 1. Identify candidates
> 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
> 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
> 4. Vote on podling-private
> 5. Wait for everyone's vote
> 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
> 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
> 8. Invite committer
> 9. Send ICLA
> 10. Wait for ICLA registration
> 11. Send root request for committer
> 12. Wait for root to create account
> 13. Update asf authorization file for new account
> 14. Done
>
> All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where the Mentors
>are AWOL.
As Justin points out there is also a pre-notification step
in the current process that would also go away, but yes that
is the gist of it.
>
> That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal,
> and just need to see the details (several modifications
> have been proposed). Infra also needs to support this
> proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get root to
> recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action
> (three votes in favor of a new committer) which has been
> an infrastructure requirement (also part of the details).
As the infra person who has created each and every account
in this org over the past 4 years, I think I can safely
speak to infra's interest in this issue. root@ only looks
that the account request has been cc'd to all the proper
lists and expects those lists to ensure proper procedure
has been followed for the request. root@ maintains a few
days delay between receipt of an acct request and action
on it in order to allow for effective oversight.
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