Craig,

in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the
message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the
microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of
the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other
podlings...my 2 cents.

thanks,
dims

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Craig L Russell
<craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>> The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
>> the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
>> the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
>> for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
>> to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.
>>
> Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic
> expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current process for
> getting new committers into an incubating project:
>
> 1. Identify candidates
> 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
> 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
> 4. Vote on podling-private
> 5. Wait for everyone's vote
> 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
> 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
> 8. Invite committer
> 9. Send ICLA
> 10. Wait for ICLA registration
> 11. Send root request for committer
> 12. Wait for root to create account
> 13. Update asf authorization file for new account
> 14. Done
>
> All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where the Mentors
> are AWOL.
>
> That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and just need to
> see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra also needs
> to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get root to
> recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three votes in
> favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure requirement (also
> part of the details).
>
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
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>
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