Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/14/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just out of interest, who decides on if its going to be a TLP or > Geronimo sub project & how is that decision made? Only the Board can approve a new TLP. If the Board does not approve a podling as a TLP, the Incubator PMC is then responsibl

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread James Strachan
On 15 Mar 2006, at 03:54, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Personally, I do not consider ActiveMQ ready. And I do believe that it should be targeting TLP status. It has its own community, is separately releasable and useable in many projects, not just as part of a J2EE server, and would do better as

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Noel, Our goal when starting the incubation process of ActiveMQ, OpenEJB, ServiceMix, WADI, and XBean, was to consolidate the Geronimo community. The vision was to have a single community focused on building a modular server architecture based on a single core. The global deliverable wo

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: > I agree it is important to have as much as possible on apache > hardware. It was my understanding until I read this thread > here, that infrastructure was fine with leaving JIRAs for > imported projects hosted remotely until the JIRA had a better > import tool. Please kee

RE: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dims wrote: > I've cleaned up files for "Apollo, Hermes, and Muse" a while back. i > just took them out of the "Currently in incubation" and moved them > over to "Graduated from incubation" Thank you. :) --- Noel -

Re: [doc] Incubation Policy -> "Acceptance of Proposal by Sponsor"

2006-03-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/14/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm resurrecting the thread that fell off into /dev/null after > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200603.mbox/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > So this sentence in > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.h

[doc] Incubation Policy -> "Acceptance of Proposal by Sponsor"

2006-03-14 Thread Jean T. Anderson
I'm resurrecting the thread that fell off into /dev/null after http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] So this sentence in http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor doesn't match current reality

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > This is not a vote, but simply a discussion about the graduation of > ActiveMQ from the Incubator. And should have been on general@incubator.apache.org, not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether or not to cross-post to a myriad of other lists is a separate question of netiquette. An

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: > When AMQ entered the incubator as a sponsored project from Geronimo, > the current understanding of incubator rules was that AMQ would > simply use the Geronimo pmc since the Geronimo pmc is expected to be > the home for the project. Since then the incubator rules have bee

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > That's not actually a formal requirement though, correct? > Not at this time. We're still discussing what the SHOULD and MUST > will be, as I mentioned in the fuller context of what you quoted. Hmmm ... or perhaps I hadn't made it as clear as I thought I had. I just went back and found that

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > 'So close to graduation'? Whence comes that? I think that > proximity is still very much up in the air, particularly > given Noel's opinion that [...] Keep in mind that is *my* opinion. The Incubator PMC as a whole may or may not agree. For a guy who is serious

Re: incubator status page

2006-03-14 Thread Bill Dudney
Hi All, Noel (or anyone else) do you have any insight into a Confluence install? I've included a bit of history below for review. The Cayenne community has an extensive set of docs in Confluence and we would really like to continue to use Confluence going forward. Is that possible on Apac

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > On the community side, we're still a bit shy of Mentors on ActiveMQ > > (James is the only one, and we are looking for at least 3 per project) > That's not actually a formal requirement though, correct? Not at this time. We're still dis

Re: Lucene.Net mailing list

2006-03-14 Thread Brett Porter
Roy raised this in January: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200601.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the following email from David, instructions for how to fix the status file up were given. Now that I've found the page, I can see that the project is actually accepted by the L

Re: Lucene.Net mailing list

2006-03-14 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 3/14/06, George Aroush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have the following JIRA issue open: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-655 -- it has been open for a > while. Who is tasked by setting up the required mailing list so that I can > get Lucene.Net infrastructure comple

Lucene.Net mailing list

2006-03-14 Thread George Aroush
Hi folks, I have the following JIRA issue open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-655 -- it has been open for a while. Who is tasked by setting up the required mailing list so that I can get Lucene.Net infrastructure completed for incubation? Am I missing anything to get this done? Re

March 2006 Incubator Report

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The Incubator will switch over to providing monthly reports to reduce the size of each one, with roughly 1/3 of projects reporting each month. We did not reach 1/3 this month, but will pick up the pace next month. Currently, we are revisiting Incubator policy with an eye to streamline procedures,

ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
"The full status of incubation is at " is not what the board accepts as a report. No reports by reference. Actual text describing status and progress, please. :-) Also the file referenced by should be: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/activemq.html http://incubator.apache.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy T. Fielding wrote: > The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. > > dev/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The following

Re: Kabuki Infrastructure

2006-03-14 Thread Andy Clark
Noel J. Bergman wrote: A number of CLAs were recorded this morning. It appears, at first glance, that we have most of the Zimbra folks, and a CCLA as well. As an ASF Member, you can check the records (and should see commit notices as they happen). Just checked the foundation SVN and saw the up

RE: Kabuki Infrastructure

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The ASF Secretary is a volunteer, too, and does not necessary record everything the moment it arrives. A number of CLAs were recorded this morning. It appears, at first glance, that we have most of the Zimbra folks, and a CCLA as well. As an ASF Member, you can check the records (and should see

CC'ing PMC@

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Folks, Lately, the tide of e-mail cc'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has risen to rather large proportions. Such e-mail is rarely necessary. For example, it is not necessary to e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] *and* [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to e-mail some public list, e.g., dev@geronimo.apache.org

RE: Demote TSIK to dormant

2006-03-14 Thread Tom Jordahl
+1 -- Tom Jordahl Adobe ColdFusion Team -Original Message- From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:26 PM To: general@ws.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Demote TSIK to dormant Dear WS PMC Members, As hinted in the previous dis

Re: Demote TSIK to dormant

2006-03-14 Thread Hans Granqvist
+1 Hans --- Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear WS PMC Members, > > As hinted in the previous discussions[1] Could we please > demote tsik > to dormant status (Since It has very little activity and no > release) > [ ] +1 - Demote > [ ] -1 - Keep [tsik] alive, because... > > Than

Unable to have SimpleDBPersistenceManager for Versioning

2006-03-14 Thread Santosh Prabhu
Hi,   I have a doubt regarding use of DBPersistenceManager for versioning When I try to use SimpleDbPersistenceManager provided by JackRabbit I get an error while checking in a new version. Everything works fine if we use the default XMLPersistenceManager. I have attached the stacktrace, r

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread David Jencks
I'm not sure what is going on with that, I have commtted work to AMQ although it has been quite a while. Why are you looking only at the branches? And in particular why not include amq 4? thanks david jencks On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hmmm... svn log svn://sv

Re: Quick announcement

2006-03-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Since this didn't hit general@incubator.apache.org, it looks like we can simply submit next month (when there will be more to report.) drtobes wrote: Project is just starting incubation. [i]CLAs are on file for the initial committers. A CCLA has been received for the initial contribution of Java

Re: Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I'm curious, how does one get into the Incubator PMC? It's open to all members now with a simple ping - ack - short wait cycle. All members interested in contributing to this effort are welcomed if they would help provide the mentoring and oversight that Incubator require

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Hmmm... svn log svn://svn.activemq.org/activemq/scm/branches/activemq-3/activemq | grep "|" | cut -f 2 -d "|" | sort | uniq gives me just 15: aco ammulder brianm chirino djcook foconer gnt jgapuz jlim jstrachan maguro pbrooke pvillacorta rajdavies rsaba -- dims On 3/14/06, Alan

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Yes, to cover that a Software Grant and an iCLA is enough. -- dims On 3/14/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIUC, they all contributed code to the AMQ project. > > > Regards, > Alan > > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > What i'd be interested to know is how many of the 17 Non-Apache > >

Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-14 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
I'm curious, how does one get into the Incubator PMC? Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: -- Once established, the PPMC shall -- work to make sure that the other resources are put into place. - -0. Mentor's job, not a PPMC one. While I think that the mentors should be ultimately responsible for this, it

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
IIUC, they all contributed code to the AMQ project. Regards, Alan Davanum Srinivas wrote: What i'd be interested to know is how many of the 17 Non-Apache Committers noted on the proposal[1] got Apache id's and of them how many of them actually made any commits to the Apache SVN repo. [1] http

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Brian McCallister
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote: And continuning the discussion from the OpenJPA proposal thread, do the other 27 - 15 = 12 people on the proposal get moved into non-committer status? Speaking as one of those twelve, I'd greatly appreciate not being removed just because I am

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, On 3/14/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Answering my own question, there are 27 people on the proposal. Here's > the list of folks who actually made any commits (grand total of 15) > > Are we stretching the requirement for diversity a bit too far? And continuning the discu

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Answering my own question, there are 27 people on the proposal. Here's the list of folks who actually made any commits (grand total of 15) Are we stretching the requirement for diversity a bit too far? aco adc bsnyder chirino dblevins dflores djcook foconer gnodet gregw jgapuz jlim jstrachan pvil

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
What i'd be interested to know is how many of the 17 Non-Apache Committers noted on the proposal[1] got Apache id's and of them how many of them actually made any commits to the Apache SVN repo. [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ActiveMqProposal On 3/14/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Jencks wrote: > > I think I'm seeing too much incipient dogmatism here. A little while > ago I remember reading about how it was possible for code to zip > through the incubator on its way to become part of an existing > project, resting

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > Now, I have no problem with recommending or encouraging multiple > mentors - but if we have a member who says that project Foo is a great > idea and no one else is inclined to mentor it, I don't think it should > be the re