Re: Why sid instead of sarge??

2002-11-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:49:47AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > When trying to get the "sarge" pan source, I get sid source instead. > Also, I tried "apt-get -t sarge --build source pan" and it gave the > same results. > > # apt-get -t testing --build source pan > Reading Package Lists...

Re: inetd: discard?

2002-11-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:32:26AM +1100, Matthias Szupryczynski wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 23:41, Qian Gong wrote: > > It is said that the service discard in inetd is just for testing and can > > be removed. What's the origin of this service and what is the purpose? > > Thanks in advance. >

Re: laptop questions

2002-11-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 04:39:59PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I've recently installed debian testing on my wife's old p-120 laptop, > and I've got a few questions about some laptop specific issues. > > 1) PCMCIA cards. We have a linksys ethernet card that is recognized as > an NE2000

Re: group sudo

2002-11-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:22:15AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > what's group id 27, 'sudo' used for? Put people who should be allowed to use sudo in that group. In /etc/sudoers, add an entry for group sudo. For example, to allow everyone in the sudo group to run any command as root, enter %

Re: Quick way to set up printing?

2002-12-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 10:44:40PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 19:40, Jerome Acks Jr wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:06:27AM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: > > > > > > But I can't seem to link to localhost:631! I tried with both Galeon > > > and Mozilla and Lynx! I keep getting

Re: audio cd

2002-12-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:01:44PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > -- Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > (on Thursday, 05 December 2002, 11:20 AM +0900): > > * Bruce Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021205 11:03]: [ snip ] > > > bash$ ls -l / | grep cdrom$ > > > drwxr-xr-x 1 root root

Re: What to change for eth0 (Direct PC connection)

2002-12-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:48:58PM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote: > I want to be able to transfer a LOT of data from my linux box to a > friends WinXP box. I have a cross-over cable. I need to know what I have > to change on my computer (if anything) so that they can see each other. > Even if I just

Re: What to change for eth0 (Direct PC connection)

2002-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:49:56PM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote: > > So, let me make sure I have this clear. > > My Current system: Linux dragon 2.4.19-k7 #1 Tue Nov 19 03:01:13 EST 2002 i686 AMD >Athalon GNU/Linux > > > > On Linux Box: > > - > > 1) if I don't already have it installed

Re: dist-upgrade (potato->woody): how to get X back up?

2002-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:38:04AM -0600, will trillich wrote: [ snip ] > To test the server, run 'XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new' > > < > > and then i do > > XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new > > just like it says, and the bilge-plate bitmap pattern comes up > (the

Re: What to change for eth0 (Direct PC connection)

2002-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:45:36AM -0800, Ben Hartshorne wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 08:46:52PM -0800, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > > > --- Michelle Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I want to be able to transfer a LOT of data from my linux box to a > > > friends WinXP box. I have a cross-ove

Re: Where to view bootup info ? dmesg ??

2002-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:42:49PM +0100, freek stelpstra wrote: > Doesn't "dmesg | less" solve this? Top posting blows. Don't do it. > On Thursday 05 December 2002 18:24, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:33:52PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > Is EVERY single message/text that scrolls by

Re: clearing the screen

2002-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 05:49:47PM -0600, Justin Ryan wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 17:43, Simon Law wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:40:19PM -0800, Dominic Iadicicco wrote: > > > How do I set it up in bash, so that when I logout it > > > will clear the screen first? > > > > Use the .bas

Re: clearing the screen -> framebuffer insanity

2002-12-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:54:52AM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote: > Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Note that some people (like Linus) say that anyone who runs a > > framebuffer console is insane. > > Why? Beats me ... STFW for the answer. I run a

Re: What makes the files in /var/backup?

2002-12-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:57:08AM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > I looked in the crontab stuff, but couldn't figure out what makes these. > > Might be nice to be able to add stuff. :-) > > Thanks in advance. Check out /etc/cron.daily/standard -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EM

Re: How insecure are cable connections, versus dialup?

2002-12-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:04:30AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:25:51AM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > > Quoting Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > cable ... its you and all your neighbors watching/sharing that copper > > > > > > > Can you provide evidence fo

Re: Sounds of silence--I want volume!

2002-12-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:51:11PM +, Pigeon wrote: > Re groups: he did... > > Why is this advice nonsensical, though? As you say, several people > have given it recently. Rather fewer people have responded, as you did, > saying it's a bad idea. Nobody has explained WHY it's a bad idea. What >

Re: Sounds of silence--I want volume!

2002-12-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:14:12PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "Haralambos" == Haralambos Geortgilakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Haralambos> I used "kuser" to manage the groups. > > Hi, > > The problem with groups is that you need to logout and log back in > before any groups yo

Re: d-u / Usenet gateway (was Re: Challenge-response mail filters

2003-08-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:42:53AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:40:20 2003 > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:33:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > > > Newsgroup descriptions are the proper repository for this information. > > > > Are you referr

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 06:08, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > > > > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read th

Re: multiple network cards bound together

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:16:42AM -0400, D. Clarke wrote: > Hi! > > Is it possible to bind multiple (non matching, or matching) network cards > together to act as one device? > > I've got a fileserver here with 2 nics in it, currently both have seperate > ip's but I'd like the box to have just o

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:39:23AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:33:53 2003 > > > > > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:10:30 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that > > > > you're ju

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:32:25AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:27:07 2003 > > > > > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that you're > > > just incapable of setting up your mail system to show the real ori

Re: Good Debian-based distro

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:23:24PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:13:10AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Bummer. I had administrator access to our Sparc server for using as a > > tftp server, but I reckon in a case like yours, you might could have > > created a mini-LAN wit

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:41:04PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:14, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > >knight:~# swapon -s > > >Filename Type SizeUsed Pr

Re: need djb dnscache init script

2003-08-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:02:03PM -0400, Tom Vier wrote: > i've googgled a bunch, but all i've come up w/ are redhat scripts. anyone > happen to have a debian version? Install daemontools and run djbdns using svscan as you should. Here's Adam McKenna's [0] init.d script to start/stop svcsan [1]:

Re: Code rights for employees (was Re: SCO identifies code?)

2003-08-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 07:21:47PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > if one wants to pick the nits that are actually buzzing around ones > head ;> Nits don't buzz around your head as they are eggs. (sorry :-) -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the next hour, WE

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:10:10PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > SDLC! What a joke! > > OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or > is it that they haven't seen it done well? I'd guess the latter. I'v

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:36:34PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: [ 43 million levels of quoting ] > > It was a joke. Note the emoticon ":-p". I may be American, but > > I'm not *that* ignorant. Besides, isn't it Pounds Sterling? > > > > "You

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:40:01PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:37:34Z, Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd guess the latter. I've seen what could have been good software > > engineering if management had been willing to wor

Re: Installer - Was: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:51:18AM +, Klaus Imgrund wrote: > > Does anybody if the installer that is used for the 'testing netinstall' > images is a sign of things to come.If so I would like to know where I > can go and whine about it. I'm not sure about how the testing netinstall relates t

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:28:15AM -0800, nate wrote: > Nathan E Norman said: > > > Sorry for yelling, but this whole "debian is hard to install" thing drives > > me crazy. Call me an elite bastard, but I still feel if debian is too > > hard to install, you sho

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:42:38PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >It's not a question of *me* not wanting a GUI. I'm asking whyinhell > >*anyone* would want one. What does it enhance? > > > >What's the design goal? So far the only thing I've ever seen in print is > >that it needs to be done be

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:51:56AM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > ... > > Just out o

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > > list), and got a "we'll think about it." Today when I went into the > > lounge, I saw

Re: remount md0 after disc failure

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 01:43:09PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > G'day all, > I have or will have in a few minutes (I hope): > hda1: /boot > hda2: / > hda3: swap > md0: /home > > My question is: If hda fails and I replace it, reinstall debian then umount > /home from / then mount /home on md0 t

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:12:14PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:03:39AM -0800, Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > "Koen Dejonghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I installed debian woody on an ordinary pc and was wondering if I can > > > leave the machin

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:49:49AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > > > > > Devil's advocate: how do you knmow firestarter does what it > > says it is doing if you don't understand iptables? Please > > don't take this as a personal attack; I just feel if you > > don't understand the technology,

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:13:14PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Perhaps I am out in left field, but if a business considers a $1500 > > computer "expensive", there may be other problems at said company

Re: God answeres my prayers to get off this list, "NO!", God says, "Your pain must endure forever!!!"

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:39:41AM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: > OK, you get _one_ more chance before I forward each and every message I get > from the list to you. Yes, that's a threat. Yes, I'd do this. It'll become > active if I see one more dumb post by you dating from after 11:45 CEDST. Plea

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:24:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:10:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > > > apt-get install apt dpkg tar ( ... any others anyone?) debconf > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > > This is redundant. Things apt depends on always get resolved a

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:30:36PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:31PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > > This is a reply to this email as received in digest mode. I use mutt > > to read my mail. In mutt, I open the digest email by pressing CR, and > > then open a pick-list

Re: Limit a process's CPU usage?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:15:03PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2003 12:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > > A quick look gave me: limits(5) > > In Debian it seems to be /etc/security/limits.conf and not /etc/limits > > as described in limits(5) > > As I understand it, this will

Re: Limit a process's CPU usage?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 05:01:39PM +0100, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > On Fri Mar 28, 2003 at 08:34:21AM -0600, the boisterous > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote to me: > > PS I don't have a limits(5) manpage. What package provides it? I do > > have th

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:10:27PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > >On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:04:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > > >>Oh, as for subscription address, maybe we need to tell outlook user how > >>to read the

Re: reporting a bug

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:29:32AM -0500, Francis Lau wrote: > Hi, > > I'm quite new at Debian so please bare with me. I was trying to install > wu-ftp on a machine and the following message popped up: You do know there's a debian package of wu-ftpd, right? I'll skip my usual rant regarding the

Re: System Slows Down

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:32:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:41:09 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:44:38AM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > > > 2. The right way to configure crontab it to use the contab (1) > > > command.

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:41:25AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:37, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > -MS Windows controlled BIOS setup (I just found out the new Toshiba laptops > > have no more "hit to enter setup" on boot. It is all handled through > > Windows utilities

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:34:47AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 04:21:23PM +1200, cr wrote: > > That 'tech support' is a red herring anyway, at least if you have Internet > > access. I've had better support from the linux-newbie, gnome, debian > > mailing lists (and even

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 05:33:54PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi there: > > I am a freshman student, in Computer Studies. A project has recently been > assigned to us in one of our courses (intro to computers), and as I don't > have experience building websites, I am seeking your advice in this

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:24:53PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Did I ask for a tutorial on Basic html tags? > or did I ask wether graphic intensive websites are good pr bad? Neither, you asked asked for help creating an aesthetically pleasing web page which conformed to standards so you could get

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:14:24PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: [ snip ] > I am getting the impression that many people commenting in this thread > didn't pay attention to what the OP was dealing with. IIUC, his email > address has been changed by his ISP from .com to .net, and while they > are st

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:33:33PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > Your sig does not begin with a single line consisting of the three > > characters "-- " (ignoring the quotes); such a delimiter is considered > > standard. > > ASAIKS, my sig does have that "-- " character, because KMail 1.5 > automa

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:42:19AM -0500, Stephan Sauerburger wrote: [ please don't top post ] > Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and > reconfiguring it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not > having to completely redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be >

Re: pxelinux boot isn't loading woody kernel

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:05:32PM -0500, Susan Kleinmann wrote: > I am trying to install Debian onto a floppy-less CD-ROM-less Shuttle > XPC SS40G with an AMD Athlon installed. > > Following the instructions at: > http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=818 > I obtained the linux.bin and root.bin

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:10:30PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:01:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > Yes, agree, I have an old 12x lite on and a newer 40x. Works fine on > > both windoze and debian. I'm also useing a Plextor 48x, very nice. And a >

Re: Networking troubles with multiple nics

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:23:09PM -0600, Eric Eelkema wrote: > Hi, > > I have a 486 with three 3c509 cards set up as a router. It > took some work to get the cards on different IRQs, but I > think I did that correctly, and all of them work individually. > The problem is, when I bring up both int

Re: Networking troubles with multiple nics

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:59:21PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:56:15 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > auto eth1 > > iface eth1 inet static > > address 192.168.1.1 <-- > >

Re: [~OT] tax program for linux

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 12:45:55AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 22:25, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > My dad, who has graciously done my taxes for me every year up until > > now, has finally shuffled them off to me. When i ask him how to do > > them, he keeps telling me to get Turbo

Re: [OT] no space after defined \newcommands in LaTeX

2003-03-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:44:01PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > how do you mean, "they have to do that for most commands they didn't > write"? A builtin, like \TeX. I can't write "\TeX is really cool", I have to write "\TeX{} is really cool". -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[E

Re: error on boot up

2003-04-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:15:38PM +0800, lito lampitoc wrote: > Hi All, > > Sorry if this is OT, but I seems to be the only one on debian-sparc > list, that why I'm cross posting this. Er, I never saw your post on debian-sparc ... taking it back there. > I installed debian 3 on my Sun sparc ne

Re: sparc stability

2003-04-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 02:30:12AM +0100, Warwick Brown wrote: > heya peeps, > > ive been trying to run linux on sparc for a while now, but no matter > what distributuib/kernel i use, it seems to crash on an almost daily > basis, im using a Sun Creator3D/30, and i cant seem to find any > resolve,

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:09:07AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > Quoting Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [snip] > > An MX is only needed if some other system is going to be handling the > > mail bound for that one. > > > > You can get away with this most of the time. However, the RFCs do

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:18:50AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 01:31:02 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I guess this message is some sort of demented halucination. I have > > never had an MX record...yet I still get the list. I also haven't had > >

Re: Why am I no longer receiving the digest?

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:41:46PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > Is there some problem with the list servers at the moment? I haven't > received a debian-user-digest since March 31st. Yet on visiting > lists.debian.org I see there's been plenty of traffic. Has anybody > else not received the digest? > >

Re: cdrdao / ide-scsi problem

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:07:28AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:10:10AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > cdrecord asks the following debconf question: > > OK, mybad. But xcdroast doesn't, and I never use cdrecord from the > command line since xcdroast will do it all in on

Re: Why am I no longer receiving the digest?

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:58:15PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:31:56PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:41:46PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > > Is there some problem with the list servers at the moment? I haven't > > &g

Re: login as root to GUI

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 08:18:30AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 23:31:52 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please turn your line wraps on to something more sensable like 72 > > columns per line instead of one paragraph per line. > > This isn't meant t

Re: Problems with ddclient

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:22:31PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > (Please reply to the list as others may run into this problem, too) > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:32:07PM -0500, Stephen Touset wrote: > > Is that a limitation of ddclient? I've tried inputting the values > > manually on their webpa

Re: unsubscribe

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:50:11PM +0100, Mark Martin wrote: > > > Disclaimer > The above information is confidential to the addressee and may be > privileged. Unauthorised access and use is prohibited. Internet > communications are not secure and therefore this company does not accept > legal r

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:43:04PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:26:37PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Please read section 5 of rfc 2821. > > > > "If no MX records are found, but an A RR is found, the A RR is > > treated as if it wa

Re: login as root to GUI

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:49:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:47:54 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > mutt does line wrap, but the default is ugly and hard to read. Many > > popular and useful MUAs don't do li

Re: default run level

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:39:02PM -0600, Irish, Jon D BAE SYSTEMS wrote: > Here is a newbie question: Which default run level do I change inittab > to so that the PC boots to a VGA console instead of X? You don't play with inittab at all; this isn't RedHat. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~kmself/

Re: Sparc Ultra1 Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.18 builtin lan card problem...

2003-04-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 06:20:33AM -0500, Michael Bevilacqua wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:23:38AM -0500, Greg Morgan wrote: > > Any ideas/thoughts on what's going on? Thanks in advance for any help. > > Does the Openboot screen initally display the hardware address? (mac > hex address) >

Re: issue with make-kpkg kernel_image

2003-04-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 12:13:53PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > I am using this for reference and can successfully do a custom kernel: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-kernel.en.html > > I must be doing something wrong because when I try to do it again with > using "Custom.2" I get th

Re: issue with make-kpkg kernel_image

2003-04-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 06:21:46PM -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:53:42 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 12:13:53PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > > > > I am using this for reference

Re: terms of legal remittance [8 days left].

2003-05-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 04:22:11PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The following are demanded, debian-boot unsubscription as previously > >specified [I note that all other lists have been unsubscribed]. Public > >list apology from c j. Watson. No further libelous statemen

Re: Sounds of silence--I want volume!

2002-12-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:59:45AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Actually, the newgrp command is often helpful here. About .003% of > > linux users seem to use it. > > Since it operates by creating a new shell, if yo

Re: ICP Vortex RAID in Debian 3.0

2002-12-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 02:47:12AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 06:16:25PM -0800, Karl R. Balsmeier wrote: > > My question is this: Does anyone out there in userland have any experience > > with these cards and getting them to work with Debian? Is it better to use > > the CD s

Re: Newbie trying to install mod_ssl

2002-12-13 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:29AM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > "Jokke Heikkilä" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've installed Woody and wanted to add mod_ssl to my apache conf. I > > downloaded the tarball from modssl.org and unpacked. When installing the > > mod, the installer asks for the pa

Re: Newbie trying to install mod_ssl

2002-12-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:30:40PM +0200, Jokke Heikkilä wrote: > > > > > > Or, just 'apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl' ... mod_ssl will be added > > to your Apache config and you will be able to tweak it to your heart's > > content. > > > > This would be ideal, but I can't find mod_ssl package

Re: mailto followup headers (was: Re: Content Management System sought)

2002-12-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 12:19:18PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:40:00PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: > > also sprach Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.12.13.2227 +0100]: > > > (a) how do i set up Mail-Followup-To, for a specific list, and > > > > http://larv

Re: Removing devfsd

2002-12-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:19:30PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: > How can devfsd be removed safely? I have purged the package, > cleaned out /dev and reconstructed the device files with `MAKEDEV > generic', but the partition is then unbootable. On boot, fsck > reports: "fsck.ext3: No such file

Re: X startup & immediate shutdown (no errors)

2002-12-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:53:12AM -0800, Charlie Reiman wrote: > > Can anyone please tell me why X shuts down on its own in the following > > situation? I want it to keep running continuously. > > > > I have no window manager installed (don't need one), I've got > > xserver-xfree86 installed, I ca

Re: DMA woes

2002-12-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:34:09PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > Michael P. Soulier sez: > } On 17/12/02 Gregory Seidman did speaketh: > } > Thank you, I know. And it was. I even indicated it by including the # > } > prompt instead of the % prompt. > } > } Is this a custom kernel? You need s

Re: vi alternate problem

2002-12-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:12:29PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > One day I installed 'vim'. > > Now I have nothing that is recognized as 'vi' > > What do I actually install in order to regain this tidy little editor? Hrm. Post the output of 'update-alternatives --display vi' ideally you'd see som

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:40:51AM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > Is there any special info on getting a 2.4.20 kernel to compile under > woody on a Sun UltraSparc-1 Creator. > > Yes, the Debian Way (tm) -- or not, I don't care. Right now it fails > at the "make dep" stage using either me

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:02:33AM -0800, nate wrote: > I don't have personal experience with linux on sparc yet, Downloading > the woody ISOs for it now and plan to install it on my ultra 1 probably > tomorrow though. Don't waste time with the ISOs. Set up a RARP server and TFTP server on an exi

Re: Linux box loses internet connection...

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:01:26AM -0800, alan brown wrote: > I have 2 boxes with Debian installed. I thought I'd done things pretty > similarly but they must have diverged at some point, because one of the > boxes is prone to losing touch with the network. If the power adapter > slips out of my

Re: Linux box loses internet connection...

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00:48PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:01:26AM -0800, alan brown wrote: > | I have 2 boxes with Debian installed. I thought I'd done things pretty > | similarly but they must have diverged at some point, because one of the > | boxes is p

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:40:27AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > BTW, 2.4.20 is not the kernel you want if you run ext3 filesystems. > > OTOH, 2.4.19 seems to not want to provide DRM support for the Creator. > >

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > Where did you see text regarding 2.4.20 problems with ext3? The box > has ext2 right now but I was going to convert some time after the > kernel upgrade. See Herbert Xu's reply to my earlier post; 2.4.20 only barfs if you a

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:01:41PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > N. Thomas writes: > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? > > And that higher stratum server should be that of your ISP, if possible. >

Re: not work

2002-12-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 12:48:24AM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > > eric lin said: [ same old stuff ] > Go away. Find a good HTML tutor page. Play with it 'til it works. > > Or go find an Apache related list and see how long they tolerate you. > > Not only are you not discussing Debi

Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > hello all > > from a gui die-hard, i have started using console extensively. mutt, vim > and all :) much faster - i must say. > > off and on, i get mail having pdf files and word documents as > attachments. i have to run x and u

Re: swap not being used

2002-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:01:15PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.12.23.1256 +0100]: > > > Mem:516580 475844 40736 0 170540 224736 > > > -/+ buffers/cache: 80568 436012 > > > Swap: 996020

wiki.debian.net?

2002-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
http://wiki.debian.net/ doesn't appear to be a debian wiki. Anyone know what's up? -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] THEY planted The Lone Gunmen to MIND CONTROL the public into seeing TRUTH SEEKERS as CONSPIRACY NUTS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: ext3 kernel bug, was: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 06:31:30PM -0500, Andrew Hurt wrote: > On 12/21/02 20:52, Craig Dickson wrote: > >Frank Copeland wrote: > > > >>AIUI, the problem with ext3 filesystems applies only if they are in > >>journal mode, which isn't the default. I've also seen suggestions that > >>the bug exists i

Re: ext3 kernel bug, was: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 07:28:21PM -0500, Andrew Hurt wrote: > On 12/23/02 18:57, Nathan E Norman wrote: > >On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 06:31:30PM -0500, Andrew Hurt wrote: > > > >>How do I tell what type of mode I currently have > > > >Look in your fstab (or vgre

Re: Network troubles + ifconfig-a output

2002-12-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 10:23:31PM +0100, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: > Hello, > > A friend of my has a network with 3 computers and I installed a debian > server. The server contains 2 network cards from Sweex. They are ^ NFC what "Sweex" is. >

Re: changing processes to start at bootup

2002-12-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 11:12:06PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > So, to change the processes started at bootup, you'd > change/rename/move/delete/ these scripts or the symlinks to these > scripts or interfere in some other manner with this process. Please note that debian provides "update-rc.d" to a

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