On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:28:15AM -0800, nate wrote: > Nathan E Norman said: > > > Sorry for yelling, but this whole "debian is hard to install" thing drives > > me crazy. Call me an elite bastard, but I still feel if debian is too > > hard to install, you shouldn't be installing it. Mandrake et al exist for > > a reason. > > well of course there are always exceptions. Having done probably > a hundred or more debian installs over nearly the past 5 years I am > fairly proficient(to put it lightly) at installing debian. > > but still, at least in the realm of supported hardware debian isn't > quite up there yet. I do try to build my systems with debian in mind, > so the occasion is rare that I have a system that is more difficult > to install debian on. the worst such examples were newer(at the time) > IBM and toshiba notebooks. the debian CDs wouldn't even boot on them. > The system wouldn't see them as bootable cds so wouldn't try. luckily > the toshiba had a floppy drive(IBM did not) so I could install on > the toshiba. However, SuSE 7.3(at the time) booted & installed fine > for some reason. I think I was using potato CDs at the time not > woody. > > but once your over the first hurdle of getting the base system > installed and booted the rest is cake for me. > > though it would save some time if the installer could install directly > onto a software raid array(raid on root).
Out of the box it can't, but you can do it if you're willing to be a little crazy :-) The midhgard link has some pointers. I hear and understand what you are saying about "not all installs are easy"; been there, done that. However, I never said (or at least, I never meant to say) that installing debian is "easy". In fact, I do not care if people think installing debian is hard. What bothers me are people who _think it's hard_ because they have no clue as to what's in their box, and they whine and bitch about it and demand a new better installer that not only works no matter what but has shiny graphics and tetris and other nonsense. IOW, people who refuse to _learn_. ESR is right on about these people. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]