Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-17 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-09-12 12:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 05:48:22 +0100, mick.crane wrote: On 2025-09-11 22:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > My usual way to upgrade was > apt-get update > apt-get dist-upgrade Without doing that RTFM I don't know what is the difference between "upg

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-17 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-16 09:09:56 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg wrote: > > > The release notes say when upgrading from Bookworm to Trixie to perform: > > > apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs > > > followed by: > > > apt full-upgrade > > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > This is new compared to the prev

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The release notes for buster > > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes.en.txt > > do not recommend > > apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs > > but rather > > apt-get upgrade > > without extra options. Vincent Lefevre wrote: > It is possible that I did not re

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i quoted: > >https://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/release-notes.en.txt > > "Please note that using apt-get is not recommended for the upgrade > > from etch to lenny." Greg Wooledge wrote: > That's VERY old. Yeah. We all were much younger back then. > The algorithms used by apt

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 13:33:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > In > https://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/release-notes.en.txt > it says > "Please note that using apt-get is not recommended for the upgrade >from etch to lenny. If you do not have aptitude installed you are >recomm

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-09-15, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> >> The release notes say when upgrading from Bookworm to Trixie to perform: >> >> apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs >> >> followed by: >> >> apt full-upgrade >> >> Of course, all this after having pointed your sources list to Trixie and >> updating the

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 09:09:56 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Is there any reason? > > The release notes say that "apt upgrade" before "apt full-upgrade" > avoids problems with removal of large numbers of packages. I believe the question was "Why did the release notes start recommending the a

Re: Tab Title when using ssh - Mate Terminal

2025-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 12:04:00 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > I use Mate terminal and often ssh to different systems using multiple tabs > > Usually the tab title changes to the new system when I ssh in, but often it > doesn't revert when I exit. > > Is there an

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg wrote: > > The release notes say when upgrading from Bookworm to Trixie to perform: > > apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs > > followed by: > > apt full-upgrade Vincent Lefevre wrote: > This is new compared to the previous upgrades. I have this sequence already in my upgrade plan from 10

Tab Title when using ssh - Mate Terminal

2025-09-15 Thread jeremy ardley
I use Mate terminal and often ssh to different systems using multiple tabs Usually the tab title changes to the new system when I ssh in, but often it doesn't revert when I exit. Is there any way to make this work consistently?

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-13 16:33:51 -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-09-12, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >> > >> Here's a table: > >> > >> Command NewPkgs RmvPkgs KeepDebs > >> --- --- --- > >> apt-get upgrade

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, it seems the upgrade is stuck with this conflict --- dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-themes-extra-data_3.28-4_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/apps.rc',

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/09/2025 19:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 12:26:44 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Is checked KeepDebs for apt-get above a typo? No. It's right there in the changelog entry that you cited: My bad. I am sorry, Greg. I can not figured out why I decided that this row is inco

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Max Nikulin
list '~o'" output prior to upgrade may help to avoid the issue with file conflict. On 12/09/2025 04:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote: i suspect that upgrading a 2 year old early "trixie" Sid VM remains incomplete and has spoiled ssh access to the VM from its Debian 12 host system.

[Solved] Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
/var/lib/dpkg/status when the update aborted with a file conflict. But who would come to the idea that "standard-data" is outdated and has been replaced by "extra-data" ? Another obstacle was the presence of a now forbidden sshd configuration line PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes +ssh-

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-09-12, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> >> Here's a table: >> >> Command NewPkgs RmvPkgs KeepDebs >> --- --- --- >> apt-get upgrade✓ >> apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs✓

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 12:26:44 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Is checked KeepDebs for apt-get above a typo? No. It's right there in the changelog entry that you cited: > > Please note that the behavior of apt-get is unchanged. The > > downloaded debs will be kept in the cache directory after

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
- Now i hope that this problem will not bite again when i upgrade to Sid. (But first i need to clean up in /etc/ssh/sshd_config so that the next upgrade does not spoil the ssh service if any of them becomes an unsuported feature.) > As t

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 2025-09-12 07:18:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Command NewPkgs RmvPkgs KeepDebs --- --- --- apt-get upgrade✓ apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs✓ ✓ apt upgrade

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Max Nikulin
t. It is the reason why I mentioned "apt remove" above. As to ssh and libssl, my guess is that at certain point of upgrade process available (or running) executable file was inconsistent with dynamically loaded libraries present in the file system.

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 3:25 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > it seems the upgrade is stuck with this conflict > --- > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-themes-extra-data_3.28-4_all.deb (--unpack): > try

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
/status i removed the sections under Package: gnome-themes-extra and Package: gnome-themes-extra-data This enabled a long run of apt --fix-broken install which ended without error indication. service ssh restart still refused with the new error message Sep 12 19:30:01 ts6-sid sshd[103708

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-12 07:18:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > "apt-get upgrade" will not install any new packages, nor will it remove > any packages, in order to satisfy the dependencies. The .deb files are > left in place. > > "apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs" will install new packages if needed, > but w

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 05:48:22 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-09-11 22:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > My usual way to upgrade was > > apt-get update > > apt-get dist-upgrade > Without doing that RTFM I don't know what is the difference between > "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade". > I

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-11 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-09-11 22:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, My usual way to upgrade was apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade Without doing that RTFM I don't know what is the difference between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade". I had assumed that "upgrade" does the software and "dist-upgrade" does the kern

Re: No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-11 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/09/2025 04:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote: E: Unable to read /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-cvyXki - opendir (2: No such file or directory) I hope, you have checked for obvious issues like no free space on /tmp tmpfs. Any idea how to solve this "OpenSSL version mismatch" while the VM is still runni

No ssh service after upgrade from trixie Sid to forky Sid

2025-09-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i suspect that upgrading a 2 year old early "trixie" Sid VM remains incomplete and has spoiled ssh access to the VM from its Debian 12 host system. The attempt to restart the ssh service fails. The output of journalctl -xeu ssh.service contains th

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:44:47 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > > waterhorse.dyndns.org On the off chance it might be useful: charles@peregrine:~$ host waterhorse.dyndns.org waterhorse.dyndns.org has address 68.2.200.21 charles@peregrine:~$ host 68.2.200.21 21.200.2.68.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer i

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-30 Thread Paul Scott
dress which has a machine answering pings. If your ISP has re-assigned the IP you were using, and someone else is using it, then ping will work and your ssh will fail. That's why I asked you to post your ddclient config, minus any passwords. Here it is: #protocol=dyndns2 #use=if, if=et

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-30 Thread Paul Scott
. If your ISP has re-assigned the IP you were using, and someone else is using it, then ping will work and your ssh will fail. That's why I asked you to post your ddclient config, minus any passwords. Here it is: #protocol=dyndns2 #use=if, if=eth0 #server=https:members.dyndns.org #login=

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-30 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 8/30/25 08:35, Paul Scott wrote: On 8/29/25 4:31 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 16:01:53 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: On 8/29/25 3:40 PM, Andy Smith wrote: 1) Your dyndns.org entry is not pointing to the correct IP address. ping and looking at my account on dyndns.org, the IP

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Paul Scott
27;t be asking for help. Log into it, and look at the web interface it presents. Find the place where port forwarding is set up. You MUST have set this up at some point, if it ever worked at all. This is not a thing that will ever work out of the box. I probably did this 10 years ago. por

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
up. You MUST have set this up at some point, if it ever worked at all. This is not a thing that will ever work out of the box. So, find where the port forwarding is configured, and LOOK at it. See if it's correct. The internal IP address and port number that the ssh connections are being

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Andy Smith
ther on port 22 or on >all ports, before it hits your router/server. > > I'm not sure how to determine that. You could tell us what the hostname is and what port you think SSH is listening on, and we could tell you if we see something that looks like SSH listening there. Assuming

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Paul Scott
On 8/29/25 3:40 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 02:53:24PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I started asking about this recently from a slightly different point of view. Last time you asked about this we got as far as: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/08/msg00526.html

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 02:53:24PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > I started asking about this recently from a slightly different point of > view. Last time you asked about this we got as far as: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/08/msg00526.html Can you reply to the points raised th

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 29/08/2025 15:09, Paul Scott wrote: Even if ping returns the same IP address as is currently shown by my account on the Dyndns.org website? Depends... I don't know what's in the website. If it's a "current IP" then likely the dyndns updater is working. It it's just the last IP that was set

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Dan Ritter
gs. If your ISP has re-assigned the IP you were using, and someone else is using it, then ping will work and your ssh will fail. That's why I asked you to post your ddclient config, minus any passwords. -dsr-

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Paul Scott
. If your ISP has re-assigned the IP you were using, and someone else is using it, then ping will work and your ssh will fail. That's why I asked you to post your ddclient config, minus any passwords. -dsr-

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Paul Scott
. If your ISP has re-assigned the IP you were using, and someone else is using it, then ping will work and your ssh will fail. Even if ping returns the same IP address as is currently shown by my account on the Dyndns.org website? Paul That's why I asked you to post your ddclient con

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
w pieces involved: 1) Your Debian system must be running sshd, listening on some port. By default this is port 22, but that can be configured. 2) Your router must forward incoming ssh traffic to your Debian system. 2a) Usually this first means you need to have a static IP address on t

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Paul Scott
through dyndns.org. I can ping my desktop from my laptop with its dyndns.org address. The address is maintained by ddclient. From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This worked for years before that.) I don't know how to diagnose this. For some reason Thunderbird o

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-29 Thread Dan Ritter
ter is not always easily accessible. I often access it > > > from > > > my laptop through dyndns.org. > > > > > > I can ping my desktop from my laptop with its dyndns.org address. The > > > address is maintained by ddclient. > > > > > > F

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-28 Thread tomas
> I can ping my desktop from my laptop with its dyndns.org address. The > address is maintained by ddclient. > > From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This worked for > years before that.) This is the give-out. While other advice here is good, we already

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:53:24 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > I can ping my desktop from my laptop with its dyndns.org address. The > address is maintained by ddclient. > > From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This > worked for years before that.) > >

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-28 Thread Dan Ritter
laptop with its dyndns.org address. The > address is maintained by ddclient. > > From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This worked for > years before that.) > > I don't know how to diagnose this. dyndns and similar services map a domain name to an IP addr

Re: possible ssh problem

2025-08-28 Thread Paul Scott
with its dyndns.org address. The address is maintained by ddclient. From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This worked for years before that.) I don't know how to diagnose this. For some reason Thunderbird os not allowing me to "Reply List" dyndns and similar

possible ssh problem

2025-08-28 Thread Paul Scott
ddclient. From several months ago ssh to that same address times out. (This worked for years before that.) I don't know how to diagnose this. TIA for any help, Paul

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Paul Scott
On 8/15/25 12:58 PM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Paul Scott wrote: ping [username].dyndns.org works. ssh [username].dyndns.org works. and ssh [IP address given by the ping] also hangs. Your use of English is a bit odd here, which leads me to wonder about a typo. Specifically your

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread debian-user
Paul Scott wrote: > ping [username].dyndns.org works. > > ssh [username].dyndns.org works. > > and > > ssh [IP address given by the ping] > > also hangs. Your use of English is a bit odd here, which leads me to wonder about a typo. Specifically your use of '

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 12:32:50 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Oops! > > ssh [username].dyndns.org hangs. Ah. That changes *everything*. At this point, the possibilites are: 1) Your dyndns.org entry is not pointing to the correct IP address. 2) Your ISP is blocking incoming connection

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Paul Scott
On 8/15/25 12:25 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: As of a few months ago ssh hangs trying to access my desktop. ping [username].dyndns.org works. ssh [username].dyndns.org works. and ssh [IP address given by the ping] also hangs. Did

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Paul Scott
On 8/15/25 12:25 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: As of a few months ago ssh hangs trying to access my desktop. ping [username].dyndns.org works. ssh [username].dyndns.org works. and ssh [IP address given by the ping] also hangs. Did

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > As of a few months ago ssh hangs trying to access my desktop. > > ping [username].dyndns.org works. > > ssh [username].dyndns.org works. > > and > > ssh [IP address given by the ping] > > al

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Hello, wonderful helpers, > > I have used my dyndns account for years to access my desktop remotely. > > As of a few months ago ssh hangs trying to access my desktop. > > ping [username].dyndns.org work

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Paul Scott
On 8/15/25 11:25 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: ping [username].dyndns.org works. ssh [username].dyndns.org works. and ssh [IP address given by the ping] also hangs. Has ssh changed somehow? It's possible that you've conf

Re: ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 11:04:27 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > ping [username].dyndns.org works. > ssh [username].dyndns.org works. > > and > > ssh [IP address given by the ping] > > also hangs. > > Has ssh changed somehow? It's possible that you've conf

ssh to [username].dyndns.org

2025-08-15 Thread Paul Scott
Hello, wonderful helpers, I have used my dyndns account for years to access my desktop remotely. As of a few months ago ssh hangs trying to access my desktop. ping [username].dyndns.org works. ssh [username].dyndns.org works. and ssh [IP address given by the ping] also hangs. Has ssh

Kerberos: Is cross realm ssh authentication working in Debian?

2025-08-12 Thread Nick
Does anyone know if cross realm ssh gss authentication is working in Debian 13? I'm testing the included krb5-kdc 1.21.3 and OpenSSH 10.0p2. Cross realm authentication works for a NFSv4 sec=krb5p share, however only *current realm* authentication works for ssh. I try to ssh cross realm, ena

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-08 Thread Anders Andersson
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 12:19 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > > In my investigations I did read a note somewhere that the only error that is > given is "Bad passphrase" no matter what the error really is. This is crap > coding of the highest order (high as in 'it stinks'), it is unfortunately all >

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-06 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-08-05 14:49, Alain D D Williams wrote: I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. I have been using ssh to login to remote machines for years. Many of which I use a private key - so I just go "ssh machine-name" and login without needing to give a password. To be able to do that

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Klaus Singvogel
David Christensen wrote: > > AIUI SSH, RSA keys, and SHA-1 are now considered bad practice: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34196504 SHA-1 is bad practice - true. But when it comes to RSA vs. ECC, the future is uncertain. We simply don't know which will prove more

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 01:10:09PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > AIUI "ed25519" keys are now preferred (untested code): > > $ ssh-keygen -t ed25519 Which is what I now have - only ~/.ssh/id_ed25519 In my investigations I did read a note somewhere that the only error th

OpenSSH RSA keys are not deprecated (Was Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase)

2025-08-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 01:10:09PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > AIUI SSH, RSA keys, and SHA-1 are now considered bad practice: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34196504 The link you cite explains that this relates to the ssh-rsa signature algorithm, not rsa public key

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread David Christensen
On 8/5/25 06:49, Alain D D Williams wrote: I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. I have been using ssh to login to remote machines for years. Many of which I use a private key - so I just go "ssh machine-name" and login without needing to give a password. To be able to do that I ident

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 02:49:30PM +0100, Alain Williams wrote: > So: After reboot (logging in again) I needed to re-identify myself and used > ssh-add as usual. > > It tells me: Bad passphrase, try again for /home/addw/.ssh/id_rsa: > ... Life is too short ... I removed

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Alain D D Williams
racters > move; and I'm not typing in what I think I'm typing in. I am sure ... I ran it under strace and can see it reading the correct characters. > If that checks out, you can test the passphrase with 'ssh-keygen -yf > PRIVKEY' . That does not work: ~/.ssh$ ss

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Alain D D Williams wrote: > I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. > > https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Tutorials/Unix-And-Linux/ssh-passwordless-login.html > > I have disk hardware problems, I decided to reboot (first time in ~2 months) > to > see if this would fix it (no it did n

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 09:56:30AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > My openssh-client is > Version: 1:9.2p1-2+deb12u7 That is what I have. > ssh-add works properly for me: > > $ ssh-add > Enter passphrase for /home/dsr/.ssh/id_rsa: > Identity added: /home/dsr/.ssh/id_rsa (

Re: ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Aug 05, 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. > [...] > So: After reboot (logging in again) I needed to re-identify myself and > used ssh-add as usual. > > It tells me: Bad passphrase, try again for /home/addw/.ssh/id_rsa: > > I tried m

ssh-add no longer accepts passphrase

2025-08-05 Thread Alain D D Williams
I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. I have been using ssh to login to remote machines for years. Many of which I use a private key - so I just go "ssh machine-name" and login without needing to give a password. To be able to do that I identify myself with ssh-add. I even wrote a tutori

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 23:09:18 -0500, David Wright wrote: > It may be installed, but I've always had to use: > > [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] && . /etc/bash_completion # Use bash-completion > if available > > in order for it to work: > > $ grep -A8 'bash completion' /etc/bash.bashrc > #

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-17 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 May 2025 at 14:57:15 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 16:39:15 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > > > numeric and names > > > where do they come

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 16:37:07 +0300, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > and it is quite rare to SSH into localhost. It's not something I do on a daily basis, but I've done it several times, because it's an excellent way to test various things, such as changes to your dot files, sshd

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-17 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
fxkl4...@protonmail.com writes: > and i also see it looks in ~/.ssh/known_hosts > i also have several i don't recognize You are probably wondering about the default IPv6 entries in /etc/hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters Of

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 09:02:03PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > thanks You are welcome :-) > i understand the no host hash in an industrial setting > but in a home network it seems unnecessary Well -- there are mixed cases. In my

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
tion or wildcard operators may be applied. >> >> i don't see how to change it > > Ah, no,, sorry. I lied to you, it's in the ssh_config (/etc/ssh/ssh_config). > Here's the extract from man ssh_config: > > HashKnownHosts > Indicates that ssh(1) sh

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 16:39:15 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > > numeric and names > > where do they come from > > Assuming you are using bash (or another shell that does TAB > com

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
, sorry. I lied to you, it's in the ssh_config (/etc/ssh/ssh_config). Here's the extract from man ssh_config: HashKnownHosts Indicates that ssh(1) should hash host names and ad‐ dresses when they are added to ~/.ssh/known_hosts. These hashed names may be used normal

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 16 May 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:09:10PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> as an aside >> in known_hosts there are many key fingerprints with no host identification >> is there a way to identify what host the fingerprint is for > > The fi

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:09:10PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: [...] > as an aside > in known_hosts there are many key fingerprints with no host identification > is there a way to identify what host the fingerprint is for The file format is described in man 8 sshd. Those with "no host

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 16 May 2025, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:56:41 + > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host >> numeric and names >> where do they come from >> > > If I type 'ssh' I get pr

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread basti
Hello, first of all they come from ~/.ssh/config and there includes, if there. Or they come from /etc/hosts. Best Regards, On 16.05.25 16:56, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host numeric and names where do they come from

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Chris Green
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from Assuming you are using bash (or another shell that does TAB completion) I think it's probably just a list of file and directory names in the current di

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:56:41 + fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from > If I type 'ssh' I get proposed tab completions of various programs, all starting with ssh. If I type &

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread Dan Ritter
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > numeric and names > where do they come from Assuming that your shell is bash, it comes from the bash tab completion function, which has an optional package: bash-completion/stable,now 1:2

ssh, where do the host come from

2025-05-16 Thread fxkl47BF
when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host numeric and names where do they come from

Re: virt-manager with SSH and 2FA with TOTP?

2025-04-11 Thread Andreas Haumer
Hi! Am 11.04.25 um 20:47 schrieb john doe: On 4/11/25 14:26, Andreas Haumer wrote: So, finally, my question: Did anyone on this list manage to use virt-manager to connect to a VM console using SSH with 2FA? The Libvirt mailing list comes to mind! ;^) Good point! :-)) I actually first

Re: virt-manager with SSH and 2FA with TOTP?

2025-04-11 Thread john doe
On 4/11/25 14:26, Andreas Haumer wrote: So, finally, my question: Did anyone on this list manage to use virt-manager to connect to a VM console using SSH with 2FA? The Libvirt mailing list comes to mind! ;^) -- John Doe

virt-manager with SSH and 2FA with TOTP?

2025-04-11 Thread Andreas Haumer
U+KVM based virtual machines. I usually use virt-manager on my workstation as GUI to connect to the VM host, manage the VMs and also to connect to the VM console if needed. To connect to the VM host I use SSH with public key authentication. On the commandline with virsh this looks like this (ex

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-06 Thread Anssi Saari
it's not your problem. While I don't use Synaptic it seems to me your problem is covered e.g. here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1243897/pkexec-authentication-fails-over-ssh-x11-forwarding-why You could try sudo synaptic-pkexec or run /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authen

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-05 Thread Eben King
On 4/4/25 17:00, Eben King wrote: Also it suspends the OS after a few minutes, so I gotta find out where that's controlled. /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults looks to be a likely candidate, as in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/748759/disabling-suspend-etc-on-debian-12 I changed it

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:37 PM Eben King wrote: > > On 4/4/25 16:41, George at Clug wrote: > > > > [...] > > If you need to reboot to complete the installation > > # systemctl reboot > > shutdown doesn't. I mean it acts like it does, goes through the > motions, and ends up with a computer that's

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
ng is enabled and disabled for ssh connection udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:13:40 -0400 Eben King wrote: > > Not necessarily. I routinely ssh into all my computers, to their > > root and user accounts, > > So you ssh-login as root, or do you login as a user then su to root? I log in as root. "ssh r...@dragon.example.com&q

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Eben King
On 4/4/25 18:08, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:00:09 -0400 Eben King wrote: to run synaptic you would need to do this on the computer itself, not remotely unless you are using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC. So ssh is right out? That sucketh much. It's not

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:00:09 -0400 Eben King wrote: > > to run synaptic you would need to do this on the computer itself, > > not remotely unless you are using a remote X or Wayland client like > > VNC. > > So ssh is right out? That sucketh much. It's not all X

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Eben King
On 4/4/25 16:41, George at Clug wrote: Hi, I believe you are using a terminal from another computer, and not using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC? (e.g. "I usually access it via ssh") That is correct, ssh in bash in xfce4-terminal in XFCE in X11 under kernel 6.1.0-32-a

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread George at Clug
Hi, I believe you are using a terminal from another computer, and not using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC? (e.g. "I usually access it via ssh") If so, please use apt to install software. for example, become root $ sudo -i or just su (which is what I use) $ su After logging

X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

2025-04-04 Thread Eben King
Hi. I have this machine "alexandria" onto which I installed Debian yesterday: eben@alexandria:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 12.10 It has a video card and a keyboard, but to log in there I have to get down on the floor, so I usually access it via ssh. Right now I'm trying to

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