to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-06-28):
> MUA "bounce" is not exactly the same (the user has a chance to
> specify *which* address to send the bounce to, for one), but
> technically so close (as much of the headers as possible remains
> unchanged), that calling it a bounce does make sense.
This is not a
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 11:52:33AM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> Am Sa, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:11:09 +0900 schrieb John Crawley:
> > > It is not the accepted meaning of the term.
> > > https://github.com/mjg59/jargon/blob/master/bounce
> > Mutt seems to have its own set of definitions which mutt users
Am Sa, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:11:09 +0900 schrieb John Crawley:
It is not the accepted meaning of the term.
https://github.com/mjg59/jargon/blob/master/bounce
Mutt seems to have its own set of definitions which mutt users will need
to grasp.
I can assure you that mutt’s meaning of bounce is older
On 27/06/2025 23:46, Greg wrote:
On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so
your proposal seems nonsensical or confusing, as the email has
already been delivered to its recipients.
I am not proposing anything. I am *explaining*.
On 27/06/2025 17:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 05:04:14PM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
BTW why does your message here have my email address as To:, and CC: to the
list, even though I had no Reply-to: header in the message you are replying to?
Because I replied using "group
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 16:43:00 +0200
Nicolas George wrote:
> Do people our age need explaining that words can have multiple
> meanings, especially technical words used in different fields?
Hear, hear. Especially after this thread has shown exactly that to a
fault.
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:47 AM Greg wrote:
>
> On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >>
> >> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so
> >> your proposal seems nonsensical or confusing, as the email has
> >> already been delivered to its recipients.
> >
> > I am not
Greg (HE12025-06-27):
> It is not the accepted meaning of the term.
Did you not already tell that? Was not Greg Wooledge precisely replying
to that?
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Nicolas George
On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>
>> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so
>> your proposal seems nonsensical or confusing, as the email has
>> already been delivered to its recipients.
>
> I am not proposing anything. I am *explaining*.
>
> This is the termi
Greg (HE12025-06-27):
> What is a Bounce Email? Definition: A bounce email is an email that has
> not been delivered to its recipient. It is sent back to the sender with
> an error message.
>
> https://www.altospam.com/en/glossary/bounce/
Do people our age need explaining that not everything
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 13:46:40 -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you
> > press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the
>
> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by t
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 02:19:22PM -, Greg wrote:
> What is a Bounce Email? Definition: A bounce email is an email that has
> not been delivered to its recipient. It is sent back to the sender with
> an error message.
>
> https://www.altospam.com/en/glossary/bounce/
The word "bounce" in
On 2025-06-27, Nicolas George wrote:
> Greg (HE12025-06-27):
>> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*
>
> No, that is not accurate. Server rejecting a mail and server bouncing a
> mail are different mechanism.
What is a Bounce Email? Definition: A bounce email is an
Greg (HE12025-06-27):
> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*
No, that is not accurate. Server rejecting a mail and server bouncing a
mail are different mechanism.
The server rejects the mail by returning an error code at SMTP level. No
bounce is generated.
If the ser
On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you
> press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the
Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so
your proposal seems nonsensical or confusing, as
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 05:04:14PM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
[...]
> I may be wrong here but my understanding of "bounce" is that the software
> responsible for delivering a message (what I referred to as the "server")
> decides not to deliver it, and sends it back to the original address. So
On 27/06/2025 16:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
[...]
I think "bouncing" is something that should really be done on a server, not by a user
email agent, even a "good" one.
Why do you think so?
At least I gave a reason why bouncing
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
[...]
> I think "bouncing" is something that should really be done on a server, not
> by a user email agent, even a "good" one.
Why do you think so?
At least I gave a reason why bouncing from the MUA makes
sense, and another for why
So when do you plan to stop replying???
On 6/26/2025 6:58 PM, John Crawley wrote:
On 26/06/2025 01:00, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:05PM -, Greg wrote:
On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you
"bounce
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 12:09 AM John Crawley wrote:
>
> On 26/06/2025 01:00, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:05PM -, Greg wrote:
> >> On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >>>
> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce
> the
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 11:29:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54 +0900, John Crawley wrote:
> > The Debian Wiki has these suggestions for how to deal with spam:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#nominate
>
> The fourth option there says:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54 +0900, John Crawley wrote:
> The Debian Wiki has these suggestions for how to deal with spam:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#nominate
The fourth option there says:
* Use your mail client's bounce/resend/redirect functionality to send
On 26/06/2025 01:00, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:05PM -, Greg wrote:
On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the
original message"?
By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones h
On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
>> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the
>> original message"?
>
> By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones have it.
>
>> Does that mean forward the message to the report-listspam?
>
> No. Forwarding an
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:05PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> >> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the
> >> original message"?
> >
> > By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones have it.
> >
> >> Does that me
(this
feels kind of right for G). Whatever.
I'd say the g in gmail stands i for "garbage" (not that hotmail and its
ilk were any better, mind you).
My take is that the Big Ones conspire (consciously or unconsciously) to
make mail less useful. Poison the well to sell bottled water.
Cheers
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 4:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote:
> > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message
> > > to to help the list spam team train
> > > their filters (I d
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote:
> > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message
> > to to help the list spam team train
> > their filters (I did).
> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 04:33:38PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote:
> Hi Tomás,
>
> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the
> original message"?
This is something that your MUA (Mail reader) should do. It will be different
for every MUA.
I use mutt - that has got a 'bo
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote:
>
>
> Please, don't do that. You amplify the spam and incommodate the ~3k
> subscribers of this list. Then you top-post and include the full spam
> body, to make extra sure everybody has seen it.
>
> Not good.
>
> if you want to do everyone a favour, yo
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 09:45:43AM +0200, 🦓 wrote:
> Schick einfach das Geld rüber und verpiss Dich aus geldbefreiten
> Kommunistinnenkommunen!
Bravo. That must have felt... great for you.
Please, don't do that. You amplify the spam and incommodate the ~3k
subscribers of this list. Then you top-p
On Thursday, March 20, 2025 4:52 PM, I wrote:
> The software setup for my Brother DCP-L2640DW driverless laser printer is
> confusing the hell out of me. I'm running bookworm.
> ... CUPS (apparently) set up a printer Brother_DCP_L2640DW_USB automatically.
> ... I also installed the driver (DCPL26
Hi,
Thank you everyone for your last replies.
Everything you suggested works as expected.
Bottom line:
* less: no quick/immediate way (i.e. like a shortcut) to save only the filter
output.
One needs to pipe through `grep` with the same filter(s) in `less` shell
* vim (but it certainly works
On Wed 07 Apr 2021 at 08:30:30 (+), Curt wrote:
> On 2021-04-07, David Wright wrote:
> >> >
> >> > But I don't know how vim would do on-the-fly filtering like
> >> > less can do with & (not being very familiar with vim).
> >>
> &
On 2021-04-07, David Wright wrote:
>> >
>> > But I don't know how vim would do on-the-fly filtering like
>> > less can do with & (not being very familiar with vim).
>>
>> :g/pattern/.w! >> output.txt
>>
>> I pressed 'v&
as 'view' can be used
> >> > instead of 'less', with all the power of an advanced editor at your
> >> > disposal.
> >
> > … or '| vim -R -' or even '| vim -' in place of '| less'.
> >
> > But I don'
On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 08:34:24 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 05 apr 21, 22:29:31, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > But I don't know how vim would do on-the-fly filtering like
> > less can do with & (not being very familiar with vim).
>
> A quick web se
On 2021-04-06, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 01:09:09 (+0100), jr wrote:
>> on Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:44:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> > If you are willing to learn (neo)vim, '(n)vim -R' as 'view' can be used
>> > instead of 'les
On Lu, 05 apr 21, 22:29:31, David Wright wrote:
>
> But I don't know how vim would do on-the-fly filtering like
> less can do with & (not being very familiar with vim).
A quick web search suggests:
:v/pattern/d
press 'u' to undo or ':w filename.txt
On Tue 06 Apr 2021 at 01:09:09 (+0100), jr wrote:
> on Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:44:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > If you are willing to learn (neo)vim, '(n)vim -R' as 'view' can be used
> > instead of 'less', with all the power of an advanced editor at your
&g
on Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:44:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> If you are willing to learn (neo)vim, '(n)vim -R' as 'view' can be used
> instead of 'less', with all the power of an advanced editor at your
> disposal.
or just press 'v' in 'less'?
-
On Lu, 29 mar 21, 01:20:18, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
>
> Actually, I asked this question because of my workflow here.
>
> First, I use the less pager to navigate quickly inside an input, not knowing
> beforehand what it looks like and what I will need to do.
> Then, I filter some
e pattern,
> and so on, using Left/RightArrow, or even use " if the
> pattern itself contains ' characters.
>
> I tend to paste with Shift-Insert (needs less hand-eye coordination).
>
It works indeed.
I just thought there was an immediate, simple and dedicated command for that.
I suppose everyone's needs/workflows are different ;)
Thanks & Best regards,
l0f4r0
e | and respond appropriately to the mark: prompt,
. type your shell command:
. grep '
. paste the pattern with whichever button you use
. ' > filename
Using the ' quote will cater for most patterns, though you
might have to adjust for any backslashes in the pattern,
and so on, us
check the man pages).
>
> if you are taking the input to grep from some other
> command you can pipe the output of that command to the
> grep command and then redirect what comes out of that
> into a file:
>
> $ command | grep pattern > outputfile
>
> less and mo
l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Strictly speaking, my question is not on Debian itself, but on usage of less
> command running on my Buster (487-0.1+b1).
>
> Is there a way to save *filtered* less results in a file or on stdout please?
>
> What I mean by "filtered&qu
Hi David and thanks for your feedback.
28 mars 2021, 21:27 de deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk:
> When you've used
> & pattern
> to display lines containing your pattern, then
> | . grep pattern > filename
> will apply the same filter to the lines selected by | ., where
> I've used . but you could use
On Sun 28 Mar 2021 at 20:38:08 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
>
> Strictly speaking, my question is not on Debian itself, but on usage of less
> command running on my Buster (487-0.1+b1).
>
> Is there a way to save *filtered* less results in a file or on stdout please?
>
Hi,
Strictly speaking, my question is not on Debian itself, but on usage of less
command running on my Buster (487-0.1+b1).
Is there a way to save *filtered* less results in a file or on stdout please?
What I mean by "filtered" is results obtained via "&" or "&
.list'): will expire in less than 27 days
A quick Internet search shows this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-glibc@lists.debian.org/msg59571.html
Apparently, the Debian distributed file will expire on 2020-12-28.
However, it seems the next Debian point release scheduled on 2020-12-05
c
Hi there,
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 11:50:09AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> ...There were in fact three instances of Postgres running (9.4, 9.6
> and 11.7) after the two jumps from Jessie to Stretch to Buster...
I don't think this is related to your perfo
;:! perldoc -f close
> >
> > or
> >
> >:! cat some_file | less
> >
> > brings me directly to the end of the file output, leaving me with
> > the nvim message:
> >
> >Press ENTER or type command to continue
> >
> >
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:27:19PM -0400, R Ransbottom wrote:
Issuing a ex command like
:! perldoc -f close
or
:! cat some_file | less
brings me directly to the end of the file output, leaving me with
the nvim message:
Press ENTER or type command to continue
requiring me to
Hi all,
Neovim and/or less are not performing as I would like in one regard:
when invoked from nvim ex prompt the pager goes directly to the end of
input. Thanks for any help.
Details:
Issuing a ex command like
:! perldoc -f close
or
:! cat some_file | less
brings me directly to
On Mon 08 Oct 2018 at 23:41:44 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 08/10/2018 à 22:23, David Wright a écrit :
> > On Mon 08 Oct 2018 at 20:20:24 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >
> > > So it may be advisable to install at least grub-common and use
> > > grub-mkconfig to generate /boot/grub/grub
Le 08/10/2018 à 22:23, David Wright a écrit :
On Mon 08 Oct 2018 at 20:20:24 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote:
So it may be advisable to install at least grub-common and use
grub-mkconfig to generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If you also want to
automatically update grub.cfg after a kernel package ins
> Step 5: Now I'm back running jessie (whence I executed the
> > debootstrap and so on).
> >
> > # grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> >
> > which will os-prober the new grub-less system and add entries for it under
> > ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober #
it's there. (IOW I wouldn't deliberately be
installing it. I see no dependencies.)
Step 4 as above.
Step 5: Now I'm back running jessie (whence I executed the
debootstrap and so on).
# grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
which will os-prober the new grub-less system and a
(where I'm installing all the packages I want on the new
system) remove grub if it's there. (IOW I wouldn't deliberately be
installing it. I see no dependencies.)
Step 4 as above.
Step 5: Now I'm back running jessie (whence I executed the
debootstrap and so on).
# grub-mkconfig &
how to deal with that crisis.
No, but when everything depends on one machine, you don't do stupid
things like upgrading to testing.
> > If yes, say so.
>
> Are you talking to me? I am one of this privileged well off people to
> have hardware that can run Stretch and Sid a
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-11 08:39 (UTC-0400):
Felix Miata:
Did including iomem=relaxed on your cmdline solve your problem, or did
it not?
I wouldn't know, the person for which I installed Debian for will not
dare switch to Stretch after this experience, will not even talk about
it.
e you talking to me? I am one of this privileged well off people to
have hardware that can run Stretch and Sid and all kinds of things.
Send some snail-mail to the less privileged who have lost access to the
net to ask them.
> Supporting ancient hardware forever is not going to happen.
A 2.33M
deloptes:
> songbird wrote:
>
>> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
>
> I doubt he does know about it
You doubt or you know?
I knew about it but I did not check it. There are many logs on /var/log
and its subdirectories. Can I interpret 3% of what they say? No! Do I
need to in order to ins
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 20:40 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum:
Debian Mailing Lists
debian-user
Community assistance and support for Debian users.
Support for Debian users who speak English.
https://list
songbird wrote:
> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
I doubt he does know about it
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
>
>> you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
>> I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
>> unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
>> of listed u
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
of listed unsupported hardware that on
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
>> Felix Miata:
>> Would this be IT?
>>1 sudo nano /etc/default/grub
>>2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet iomem=relaxed"
>>3 sudo update-grub
>
> It would be #1 below, the step to take after proving that iomem=relaxed
> is necessary f
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
to work with your
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847154
> * From Linux 4.8, several changes have been made in the kernel
> configuration to 'harden' the system, i.e. to mitigate security bugs.
> Some changes may cause legitimate applications to fail, and can be
> reverted by run-tim
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
>
>> Felix Miata composed:
>
>>> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
>>> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
>>> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
>
>> Thank you f
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
Thank you for the help in answering the puzz
g.0.log when the upgrade failed the DM and there
> is a new Jessie installation on it now which works fine (slow as hell
> but fine .. light years faster than WinXP though). It is not mine to
> mess with it anymore, I simply installed debian as a toolbox to cure and
> backup old data
Felix Miata:
> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
Thank you for the help in answering the puzzle, but how is a
semi-i-literate person able to translate t
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 13:45 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 10:22 (UTC):
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade
You need to do it again but without lshw outputting in xml format. With
no switches lshw outputs in plain text,
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 10:22 (UTC):
See attached file for complete lshw of the failed stretch upgrade
You need to do it again but without lshw outputting in xml format. With no
switches lshw outputs in plain text, exactly the right format for an email
attachment.
However:
'inx
as hell
but fine .. light years faster than WinXP though). It is not mine to
mess with it anymore, I simply installed debian as a toolbox to cure and
backup old data from the drive on that machine.
I think with a meg or two of Ram this could be a very functional
computer for a kid to learn debian.
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
...
Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8
to > 9, nothing else changed.
Kernel changed from 3.16 to 4.9, big difference if you have the wrong
gfxchip:
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
...
> Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8 to
> 9, nothing else changed. As soon as the update/grade finished and it is
> rebooted it is all black. Scraping the LXDE/lightdm/Openbox the login
> screen works fine and runs apt and everything else
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
> ...
>> This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early
>> Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory.
>
> What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show?
One of the reasons I wrote the post is to
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC):
...
This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory.
What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show?
Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from
I installed several times 8.7.1 LXDE and as soon as I forced Stretch on
it it will boot up but will not bring up a graphic display. Attempts to
revert and/or switch from LightDM to LXDM did not cure the problem.
The second time I updated 8.7.1 to its latest and then tried to make the
switch to Deb
Dear All,
is it possible to make dnsmasq 2.62 (Wheezy) less verbose? Especially,
it shouldn't log every DHCP request.
I've tried
--quiet-dhcp, --quiet-dhcp6, --quiet-ra
but they seem to work in another version in Ubuntu only.
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Gruß,
Christian
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:51:34 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> I meant
>
> /etc/init.d/nmbd
> /etc/init.d/smbd
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
LOL, same here (in my advice on troubleshooting to Pierre)_.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training *
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:44:41 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > are you all sure that the delay *does* happen during the shutdown of
> > Samba? If it turns out not to be Samba, you've just needlessly
> > chased your tail for hours or days.
>
>
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
how come nmbd and smbd are launched, although the links in all /etc/rcxx
to /etc/init.d/samba have been removed ?
I found the answer: it was obvious but rather unexpected:
the samba packages installs in /etc/init.d
the samba AND nmbd and s
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 22:26:02, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> >On Vi, 17 oct 14, 14:48:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> >>
> >> running: systemctl -a -t service | grep samba gives:
> >> samba.serviceloadedinactive deadLSB: ensure Samba
> >> da
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
are you all sure that the delay *does* happen during the shutdown of
Samba? If it turns out not to be Samba, you've just needlessly chased
your tail for hours or days.
I'm quite sure, because:
1/ there are a lot of bug reports against samba about thi
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 14:48:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
running: systemctl -a -t service | grep samba gives:
samba.serviceloadedinactive deadLSB: ensure Samba daemons
are started (nmbd and smbd)
This still not answers to my questi
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:56:28 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > The samba package does not properly clean up it's config files on
> > upgrades. See the RC bug that's filed against samba.
> >
> > Run "update-rc.d samba remove" to fix that.
> >
>
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 14:48:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>
>running: systemctl -a -t service | grep samba gives:
>samba.serviceloadedinactive deadLSB: ensure Samba daemons
> are started (nmbd and smbd)
>This still not answers to my question.
Why are you grepping for 'samba'
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Peter Viskup wrote:
Hi Pierre,
you can answer your question by yourself by having a look into directory
/lib/systemd/system and read systemctl man
page.
Small hint could be to run 'systemctl -a -t service' command.
Some more information about systemd in Debain can be read o
Hi Pierre,
you can answer your question by yourself by having a look into directory
/lib/systemd/system and read systemctl man page.
Small hint could be to run 'systemctl -a -t service' command.
Some more information about systemd in Debain can be read on Wiki
https://wiki.debian.org/systemd.
Hope
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
The samba package does not properly clean up it's config files on
upgrades. See the RC bug that's filed against samba.
Run "update-rc.d samba remove" to fix that.
hi Michael,
I saw the thread concerning the bug report against samba, but only
saw
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:07:42 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> oops! sorry for the error in the subject: obviously, I meant
> "shutdown" and not "boot"
> I think better to re-submit with the correct subject
>
> hi,
> it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
> has a big
oops! sorry for the error in the subject: obviously, I meant "shutdown"
and not "boot"
I think better to re-submit with the correct subject
hi,
it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly
for samba (5
Hi,
Dňa Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:27:31 -0700 Patrick Bartek
napísal:
>
> As said a few days ago, if I was able to create a gmail account
> without signing up for Google+, too, I would post how I did it.
> Chrome is my default browser, and all below was done with it.
>
>
> SET
On Sat, 4/26/14, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Subject: Setting Up a Google+less GMail Account
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Saturday, April 26, 2014, 11:27 PM
As said a few days ago, if I was able to create a gmail
account without signing
As said a few days ago, if I was able to create a gmail account without signing
up for Google+, too, I would post how I did it. Chrome is my default browser,
and all below was done with it.
SETTING UP A GOOGLE+LESS GMAIL ACCOUNT
1. Go to 'mail.google.com'
2. Click on "Create
On 21/04/14 03:01 PM, KS wrote:
> On 04/04/14 01:02 AM, André Nunes Batista wrote:
>> On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 20:39 +0100, Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Grub2 2.02~beta2-8 packages now available in sid, booting OK for me.
>>
>> Less is more, Joe!
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