deloptes: > songbird wrote: > >> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log? > > I doubt he does know about it
You doubt or you know? I knew about it but I did not check it. There are many logs on /var/log and its subdirectories. Can I interpret 3% of what they say? No! Do I need to in order to install and run a system instead of mswin? I hope not! Once the final re-installation was done with Jessie what purpose would checking the log in a functional system? The log of the system that would not result in a functional graphic display would probably show something meaningful. I did not think this way, I just thought the display itself being old and of low resolution had come to an altered default resolution that it could not handle. I have seen this on other debian based distros, where the live or installer resolution was so off that you couldn't see half the installation window. The debian installers have generally faired well in this respect. Although I have had successful installations with TV screens and parts of the Debian installer off the frame. Why would a functional system in Jessie be allowed to be broken by a simple upgrade without at least a warning. "Your hardware is not supported by testing/stretch. If you continue with the upgrade you may lose graphic functionality of the system". Shouldn't the same people who made the decision not to continue the support be responsible to make sure a patch exists in Jessie that adds such a warning to the user? Once deleting and reinstalling various display managers and failing, I scrapped it and started with a new Jessie. Your excuse for "everything is just fine" holds no water at all for anyone who does not know of Xorg.0.log unless you really think that anyone has memorized the Debian administrator's manual in its entirety BEFORE they attempt an installation. But this is a users discussion list, not developers. All we need is a functional system to do web-browsing, word-processing, database for home or store use, and a card game. USERS are not those who are expected to diagnose and repair developers' broken systems! And please refrain from giving me a "testing" not "stable" speech as it is not May 2015, it is almost 2 years later under a long standing freeze. And don't dare imply that in stable stretch issues like this will be taken care of without substantial evidence for this claim. https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/graph-release.png https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Look at this misleading chart, Jessie is blue, Stretch is green, which would you pick to start your experience with Linux? The neglected Jessie or the hot off the press Stretch? Stretch should really be Jessie 8.8 .... but 8.8 should not break your display management. kAtrinity -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG "Who died and made you the superuser?" Brooklinux
