Re: hardware check

2025-04-11 Thread jeremy ardley
On 11/4/25 16:05, didier gaumet wrote: These solutions (Windows Remote Desktop, Anydesk, Teamviewer) have the great advantage of not needing a non-technical user setting up anything technical (IP address, firewall, whatever...) Ironically, these tools are favoured by scammers to take over

Re: hardware check

2025-04-11 Thread didier gaumet
Le 11/04/2025 à 10:05, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] When you have access to his PC, you can inquire about software and hardware issues [...] ...investigate... Lousy Speaking Didier

Re: hardware check

2025-04-11 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.04.2025 12:22, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2025-04-10, David Christensen wrote: Answering the above questions should facilitate obtaining trouble-shooting advice via this mailing list. I am not asking help to solve his problem - and obviously I would be on the wrong mailing list :). I am se

Re: hardware check

2025-04-11 Thread didier gaumet
Le 10/04/2025 à 09:14, Michel Verdier a écrit : A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I have no access to his system. Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav, smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system? But it has

Re: hardware check

2025-04-11 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-04-10, David Christensen wrote: > Answering the above questions should facilitate obtaining trouble-shooting > advice via this mailing list. I am not asking help to solve his problem - and obviously I would be on the wrong mailing list :). I am searching tools suitable for a very basic us

Re: hardware check

2025-04-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 10/4/25 15:14, Michel Verdier wrote: A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I have no access to his system. Get him to install Anydesk and you will be able to connect remotely, so long as he has an internet connnection

Re: hardware check

2025-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 4/10/25 08:35, David Christensen wrote: On 4/10/25 00:14, Michel Verdier wrote: A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ I assume you mean Microsoft Windows (?).  Which version (4.0, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.5, 10, 11, etc.) and which edition (Home, Pro, Workstation, etc.)? Here is a better lis

Re: hardware check

2025-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 4/10/25 00:14, Michel Verdier wrote: A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ I assume you mean Microsoft Windows (?). Which version (4.0, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.5, 10, 11, etc.) and which edition (Home, Pro, Workstation, etc.)? and his computer Make and model of computer? CPU? Memory?

Re: hardware check

2025-04-10 Thread Lee
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 4:52 AM Michel Verdier wrote: > > A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I > have no access to his system. > > Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav, > smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live sys

Re: hardware check

2025-04-10 Thread john doe
On 4/10/25 09:14, Michel Verdier wrote: A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I have no access to his system. Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav, smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system? But it has to be f

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-04 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-03-04 at 10:02 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Van Snyder writes: > > > The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work > > with a Quadro K2200. > > But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story. After I installed it,inxi -G reported the nouveau driver

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-04 Thread Anssi Saari
Van Snyder writes: > The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work with a Quadro > K2200. But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story. > NVidia recommends the 570 driver. They always recommend the latest.

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-03 Thread Hans
> The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work with a > Quadro K2200. NVidia recommends the 570 driver. > > When I first installed the system, the left-hand pane of Evolution > would spontaneously scroll, even if a different window had keyboard and > mouse focus, and the mouse

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-02 Thread Van Snyder
On Sun, 2025-03-02 at 21:35 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Van Snyder writes: > > > I install the driver by running the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64- > > 570.124.04.run script at level 3, then rebooting. > > Why? > > > Is that DKMS? > > To be clear, it's a manual installation of drivers from the > manufac

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Van Snyder writes: > I install the driver by running the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-570.124.04.run script > at level 3, then rebooting. Why? > Is that DKMS? To be clear, it's a manual installation of drivers from the manufacturer. Definitely not DKMS. You want install stuff manually, you get to upda

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 22:38 +, Andy Smith wrote: > If it's a DKMS, which is what my nvidia driver is, then it will try > to > be built for any kernel install and should work as long as you have > headers installed. Though there have been times that things have > changed > and its build is broke

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 02:24:04PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > The NVidia kernel module is built by running a bash script. It's not a > .deb package. > > Will it still be automatigically rebuilt? If it's a DKMS, which is what my nvidia driver is, then it will try to be built for any kernel in

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 21:02 +0100, Hans wrote: > With an upgrade the build of the nvidia-kernel-module should run > automatically. The NVidia kernel module is built by running a bash script. It's not a .deb package. Will it still be automatigically rebuilt?

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:27:25 -0800 Van Snyder wrote: > > If I get the metapackages linux-image-amd64 and limux-headers-amd64, > will I need to rebuild the NVidia driver every time it loads a new > kernel? Probably yes. If you install a fixed kernel version, you'll probably need only the headers

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 1. März 2025, 20:27:25 CET schrieb Van Snyder: > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 22:00 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > That's correct. You're probably missing the metapackage that brings > > in new kernels automatically. For an amd64 machine, that metapackage > > is named "linux-image-amd64". (If

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 22:00 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > That's correct.  You're probably missing the metapackage that brings > in new kernels automatically.  For an amd64 machine, that metapackage > is named "linux-image-amd64".  (If you use DKMS kernel modules, > you'll > also want the correspon

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 04:06 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800 > > Van Snyder wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a yea

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 04:06:37 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800 > > Van Snyder wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a ye

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800 > Van Snyder wrote: > > > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely > > > doesn't have enough > > > backporting to fully support it prope

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Joe
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800 Van Snyder wrote: > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely > > doesn't have enough > > backporting to fully support it properly. A newer kernel could be > > all it takes to > > make

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Joe
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:00:41 -0800 Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 12:46 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the k

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2025, 21:46:35 CET schrieb Van Snyder: > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is > > > 6.1.0-18. > > > I believe there are severa

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 12:46 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is > > > 6.1.0-18. > > > I believe there are several newer on

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
Van Snyder composed on 2025-02-28 11:27 (UTC-0800): > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely doesn't >> have enough >> backporting to fully support it properly. A newer kernel could be all >> it takes to >> make those

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 12:46:35 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is > > > 6.1.0-18. > > > I believe there are several new

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is > > 6.1.0-18. > > I believe there are several newer ones, maybe up to 6.1.0-31? > > That's correct.  You're probably

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40AM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > What's "mce?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-check_exception > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is 6.1.0-18. > I believe there are several newer ones, maybe up to 6.1.0-31? You can try a kernel fr

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is 6.1.0-18. > I believe there are several newer ones, maybe up to 6.1.0-31? That's correct. You're probably missing the metapackage that brings in new kernels automatically. Fo

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely doesn't > have enough > backporting to fully support it properly. A newer kernel could be all > it takes to > make those MCEs go away. What's "mce?" "apt update" says everything i

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 1:12 AM Van Snyder wrote: > > While running at level 3 in Debian 12.5, I got the following messages: > > mce: {Hardware Error]: CPU: 8 Machine Check: 0 Bank 0: 80440005 > mce: {Hardware Error]: TSC 1838aa435b6d > mce: {Hardware Error]: PROCESSOR 0: b0671 TIME 140710

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-27 Thread Felix Miata
Van Snyder composed on 2025-02-27 19:06 (UTC-0800): > While running at level 3 in Debian 12.5, I got the following messages: > mce: {Hardware Error]: CPU: 8 Machine Check: 0 Bank 0: 80440005 > mce: {Hardware Error]: TSC 1838aa435b6d > mce: {Hardware Error]: PROCESSOR 0: b0671 TIME 1407103

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-07 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email Jonathan Dowland wrote: > (original email sent 6 Feb 2025 at 17:52) > > On Wed Feb 5, 2025 at 3:37 PM GMT, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> Sounds great. I would love to have this. Would this work with >> Koreader as well? > > It does, yes. > > I followed the following bl

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Feb 5, 2025 at 3:37 PM GMT, Eric S Fraga wrote: Sounds great. I would love to have this. Would this work with Koreader as well? It does, yes. I followed the following blog post: -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-06 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email Dan Ritter wrote: > (original email sent 5 Feb 2025 at 11:47) > > Koreader is happy to read from the filesystem, so sure. > > But what I have setup is a combo of two things: > > - an OPDS server to hand out books Thank you for this. I used to use calibre as an OP

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Eric S Fraga wrote: > Response below/inline for email Chris Green wrote: > > (original email sent 4 Feb 2025 at 20:10) > > > > Now that's neat, I use syncthing on other systems, adding it to my > > Kobo Forma would be really handy, how do you do it? > > +1 > > Sounds great. I would love to ha

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email Chris Green wrote: > (original email sent 4 Feb 2025 at 20:10) > > Now that's neat, I use syncthing on other systems, adding it to my > Kobo Forma would be really handy, how do you do it? +1 Sounds great. I would love to have this. Would this work with Koreader

Re: hardware ebook readers

2025-02-04 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 07:34:48PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Feb 4, 2025 at 6:25 PM GMT, Tom Browder wrote: > > But, can your Kobo reader handle the Kindle format? > > > > What model do you recommend? > > Chiming in: I love my Kobo Libra 2, which I think is now discontinued and > re

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-04 Thread Chris Green
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > One thing I like about the Kobo is how hackable it is. I've got > syncthing on mine, so to add a book to it I merely have to copy the file > to my local folder, and syncthing does the rest. > Now that's neat, I use syncthing on other systems, adding it to my Kobo Fo

Re: Hardware Error Messages

2025-01-07 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 6 Jan 2025 10:52 -0500, from d...@djph.net (Dan Purgert): >> Message from syslogd@piglit at Jan 5 02:49:03 ... >> kernel:[1064021.151590] [Hardware Error]: Corrected error, no action >> required. > > This just looks like a notification sent to TTY1 (or where-ever you've > got an active sessio

Re: Hardware Error Messages

2025-01-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jan 06, 2025, Michael wrote: >- I have a Debian Bullseye desktop PC. From time to time I receive >several Hardware Error Messages which begin with a Hardware Error Message >of the form :- > > Message from syslogd@piglit at Jan 5 02:49:03 ... > kernel:[1064021.151590] [Hardware Err

Re: [Hardware support] Dell Vostro 15 3530

2024-07-17 Thread Felix Miata
Erik Eduardo Alcala Salero composed on 2024-07-18 03:13 (UTC): > I have been using Debian 12 stable in my dell vostro 15 3530, I wanted to ask > if some one else is using this machine or having issues with the keyboard, I > have manjaro installed also, when I boot and see the manjaro boot-loader

Re: [Hardware support] Dell Vostro 15 3530

2024-07-17 Thread David Christensen
On 7/17/24 20:13, Erik Eduardo Alcala Salero wrote: Good day, I have been using Debian 12 stable in my dell vostro 15 3530, I wanted to ask if some one else is using this machine or having issues with the keyboard, I have manjaro installed also, when I boot and see the manjaro boot-loader the

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-09 Thread Andre Rodier
On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 19:11 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Andre Rodier wrote: > > > > First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other > > mailing lists. > > The eevblog may be another place to ask. But be warned, the folks on > the eevblog can get rea

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Andre Rodier wrote: > > First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other mailing lists. The eevblog may be another place to ask. But be warned, the folks on the eevblog can get really deep into the weeds on subjects like this. If you are not careful, the

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > You could have contacted them to get a replacement, 100% faulty phone > calls means Qualcomm modem was faulty. But I assume you contacted them > and were unhappy with the result, hence your negative opinion on > provided customer support, or lack thereof. They were willing to sell

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread debian-user
piorunz wrote: > On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: > > If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine > > as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, > > etc.** > > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. O

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/12/2023 18:13, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: No support when it doesn't, though. Okay. I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced inconsistent results. Some results of searches indicated that the card might need to be activated on another phone (I didn't ha

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 13:13, John Hasler wrote: Too bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls. Phones now a days are not expected nor intended to make phone calls -- It's not easy to be me

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. I wrote: > No support when it doesn't, though. piorunz: > Why you say so? What doesn't? I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced inconsistent results. Some results o

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/12/2023 15:20, John Hasler wrote: Piotr writes: Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. Why you say so? What doesn't? It worked for me quite well, as a device in early development. I really liked it. I passed

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, etc.** Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. Operating system you want is Mobian,

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-12-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:58:11 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known > > problem with UEFI machines. > > AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which > is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI. > IIUC the o

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-12-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known > problem with UEFI machines. AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI. IIUC the one in oldstable doesn't OTOH. Stefan

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need > to use GRUB. The entries for Linux and Windows will be in the UEFI > boot menu, and you can boot directly using EFI variables. > It's the 'well functioning' tha

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 6:17 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700 > Charles Curley wrote: > > > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > > router/gateway computer. > > Th

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. Thank you all for much useful advice. I ended up with an ACEMAGIC T8 Plus

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 15:56 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > The FriendlyPC version run a vendor version of Debian with some packages > especially compiled for the device such as ffmpeg and graphics drivers > > Armbian is usually a bit slower in releases and produces a more > canonical Debian versi

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 10:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > I'm currently running a Globalscale SheevaPlug and a DreamPlugs but > > Debian support for the old ARM architecture is likely to end soon. > > (Dropping it seems to come up each release, but so far they're > > still > > releasing

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread basti
On 16.11.23 16:49, Stefan Monnier wrote: My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel,

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an >> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for >> Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. > > Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel, > plus possibly other custom bits,

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/11/23 15:40, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. Are these the usual SBC se

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an > exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for > Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run t

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/11/23 10:15, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provid

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an > exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options > for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provide a > network storage service as well a

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/11/23 08:42, Dan Ritter wrote: I bought one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-HUNSN-Barebone-Storage/dp/B0B53MKZBX/ (4 x 2.5Gb NICs, N5105 CPU) -- I paid about $250 including 16GB RAM and a 500GB SSD. Works very nicely. For about $70 less you can get them with 2x 2.5G

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread gene heskett
On 11/15/23 18:37, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: 16 years is a good amount of value. :) Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode S

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: 16 years is a good amount of value. :) Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > 16 years is a good amount of value. :) > Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072 I did buy a spare hard drive for each, and

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 15.11.2023 18:47, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] [...] I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: > [...] > [...] > I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had > mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions as > OP, which is "no fans". > And

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags. According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!). IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags. > According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to > dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!). > IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this small size, so there > will be at lea

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread debian-user
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > > router/gateway computer. > > > > It should run Debian. > >

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread basti
On 14.11.23 10:45, Anssi Saari wrote: Charles Curley writes: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from pcengines.ch. They'

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from pcengines.ch. They're going out of production but are c

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 14.11.2023 04:08, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. I

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > It should run Debian. > > It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or > have suitable expansion capability. > > It should be quiet: no fans, and low power requirements. A small > physical footprint would be nice. > > Most of the time it will run

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:58 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. > > It should run Debian. > > It should either have two gigabit (or better)

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. > > It should run Debian. > > It should either have two gigabit (or

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/11/23 06:57, Charles Curley wrote: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or h

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
Anssi Saari [2023-11-13 12:34:13] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> My home NAS is in a completely different category: >> an ARM SBC with on-board SATA. Much smaller, extremely quiet (no fan), >> and between 5W and 10W of power consumption depending on whether it's >> mostly idle (the overwhelmi

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-13 Thread Anssi Saari
Stefan Monnier writes: > My home NAS is in a completely different category: > an ARM SBC with on-board SATA. Much smaller, extremely quiet (no fan), > and between 5W and 10W of power consumption depending on whether it's > mostly idle (the overwhelmingly common case) or not. So which ARM SBC an

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 03:17:17PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > FOSS is great for learning by doing, but commercial products can be a better > > choice when a family member, a friend, a neighbor, and especially clients > > and employers, want a computer, a server, a network gateway, etc.. It i

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> FOSS is great for learning by doing, but commercial products can be a better > choice when a family member, a friend, a neighbor, and especially clients > and employers, want a computer, a server, a network gateway, etc.. It is > ironically satisfying when those commercial products have FOSS on

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/12/23 09:15, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: An obvious difference between internal and external drives is physical protection. Internal drives and cables are protected. Everything gets power from the same source (PSU, PCU fed b

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/12/23 05:15, Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: SSD RAID10 is very impressive when everything else matches. Backups over a Gigabit LAN onto SATA III SSD RAID10 does not make sense because Gigabit Ethernet is rated for 1 Gbps read/ write an

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/11/23 08:52, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:22:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/10/23 19:46, David Christensen wrote: > > > > On 11/8/23 02:20, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Are these 2TB S

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > SSD RAID10 is very impressive when everything else matches. Backups over a > Gigabit LAN onto SATA III SSD RAID10 does not make sense because Gigabit > Ethernet is rated for 1 Gbps read/ write and a SATA III SSD RAID10 is

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have always liked ATX tower cases with lots of drive bays, both internal > and external. Over time, more products have become available with good > cooling and low noise. I have not found a major computer manufacturer who > makes servers with all of those features, so I build my own: > > * Fr

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/23 08:52, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:22:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 11/10/23 19:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/8/23 02:20, gene heskett wrote: And I just looked at tht pair, and acc gparted they have both been pvcreated, so I'll leave then alone and

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >From what I've read when comparing OpenMediaVault vs TrueNAS, it > usually comes down to the power consumption of the mini computer/mini > pc. 5W can save you $100 USD per year. Probably more now due to > inflation. 5W * 24h/D * 30 D/M * 12M/Y = 43200 Wh, or 43.2KWh per

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 6:20 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >From what I've read when comparing OpenMediaVault vs TrueNAS, it > > usually comes down to the power consumption of the mini computer/mini > > pc. 5W can save you $100 USD per year. Probably more now due to > > inflat

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread gene heskett
On 11/11/23 15:41, Pocket wrote: On 11/11/23 13:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, zero issues. The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered USB hub. Hmm...  so mayb

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 1:48 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, > > zero issues. > > The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. > > I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered > > USB hub. > > Hmm... so mayb

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