On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 10:54:48 -0700
Will Mengarini wrote:
> >> * If you are replying to a post, please … cut out extra text that
> >> is not relevant to your point.
> >>
While you are commenting on Mr. Cater's FAQ, it would be nice to pay
attention to it.
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Does anybody read signatures any more
* Jeffrey Walton [25-04/05=Sat 00:52 -0400]:
> Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject.
Or a diff.
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:47 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>>
>> Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
>&g
On 2025-04-05, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject.
>
We're all waiting for Gene to put "SOLVED" on his never-ending network
of threads.
But what would it would mean or communicate to future anthropologists
remains yet another puzzle left to the
Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject.
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:47 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
>
> Codes of Conduct
>
Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
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owned upon or unwanted?
>
> Good evening Jeffrey,
>
> No, I don't think you can.
>
> > > Off-topic arguments also have a habit of derailing useful discussion.
> > >
> > > Editing and answering mailing list posts
> > > =
I see the changing of title or subject to add things like "SOLVED" is
not included in the FAQ.
Can we infer it is frowned upon or unwanted?
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:12 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
>
n.
> > Off-topic arguments also have a habit of derailing useful discussion.
> >
> > Editing and answering mailing list posts
> >
> >
> > * It is helpful to write meaningful subject lines. If you change subject
> >
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Hellow Greg and there,
> Me too. Works perfectly in slrn (except for the occasional encrypted
> article that this software can't decrypt into decipherable).
Oh, that's really good news^^^
Thank you for introducing slrn.
Sincerely, Gnus fan Byunghee
e to read your emails, if they support
> NNTP (newsgroups), you can access this "mailing list" via the
> gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. This is how I access the list.
Also i like gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. Even now, i am reading
mails on Gmane, thanks!
Sincerely, Gnus fan Byunghee
On 2025-03-16, Byunghee HWANG wrote:
>>
>> Depending on what tools you use to read your emails, if they support
>> NNTP (newsgroups), you can access this "mailing list" via the
>> gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. This is how I access the list.
>
> Also
David writes:
> Given that this infrastructure exists and is being used by most people
> involved with producing Debian, it surprises me to hear talk of posting
> diffs to the mailing list, which requires too much effort by both writers
> and readers IMHO.
Too much effort? I don&
Le 3/4/25 à 16:46, Yassine Chaouche a écrit :
I'd even extrapolate to other websites like the stackoverflow network,
where most people are here to get answers,
not to give answers.
From my point of view and personal experience IRC is a little different.
Maybe because it's in realtime,
sometimes
Le 3/4/25 à 16:06, Nicolas George a écrit :
Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04):
I see this as a "forum" mode
It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the
poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help
but is not willing to do the same for others
Are these basic software development practices, tools and platforms not
familiar to readers of this list? I am surprised to see words like
"practicable" / "awkward" / "clunky" being used in this conversation, are
these tools not standard practice in everyone's world?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:47:11PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote:
[...]
> So in order to do this you need to stay subscribed (to eventually send mail),
...as has been stated elsewhere, you don't need to be subscribed
to send mail to debian-user@
Which is pretty heroic these days, so I commend t
Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04):
> I see this as a "forum" mode
It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the
poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help
but is not willing to do the same for others in return.
Regards,
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:24 AM Anssi Saari wrote:
>
> David writes:
>
> > It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ"
> > document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such
> > as salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org.
>
> I don't see a problem with just posting th
Le 3/4/25 à 14:49, Eric S Fraga a écrit :
What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a
contradiction?
Not necessarily, no.
I see this as a "forum" mode
where you only receive e-mail for discussions in wh
The Wanderer writes:
[...]
> The context I'm aware of in which such a thing would be useful is
> mailing lists which condition some capability (posting, or access to
> read the archives, or some other such thing) on being subscribed.
>
> AFAIK, debian-user does not do this, so I don't see a reas
On 2025-03-04 at 08:49, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:
>
>> (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)
>>
>> Ciao a tutt*,
>>
>> is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
>> subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?
>
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 01:49:31PM +, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:
> > (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)
> > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
> > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?
>
> W
e? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a
contradiction?
Depending on what tools you use to read your emails, if they support
NNTP (newsgroups), you can access this "mailing list" via the
gmane.linux.debian.user new
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Leandro Noferini wrote:
> Ciao a tutt*,
>
> is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
> subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?
Asking for help to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org just lists
"help", "subscribe" and "unsu
Ciao a tutt*,
is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?
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On 2025-03-04 at 03:24, Anssi Saari wrote:
> David writes:
>
>> It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ"
>> document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such as
>> salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org.
>
> I don't see a problem with just posting the diffs.
Le 3/4/25 à 12:20, Leandro Noferini a écrit :
Ciao a tutt*,
is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?
Just create a mail filter that drops mail coming from
debian-user@lists.debian.org,
but remember to remove it if you dec
David writes:
> It would assist everyone to follow changes to this "Monthly FAQ"
> document if it can be hosted somewhere that provides diffs, such
> as salsa.debian.org, or wiki.debian.org.
I don't see a problem with just posting the diffs. Preferably in unified
format.
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 at 16:57, Will Mengarini wrote:
> This kind of information
>
> popos/pts/4 bash ~ 08:54 0$diff -b debfaq--2025-0{2,3}-01
> 88c88,90
> < world. Off-topic arguments also have a habit of derailing useful
> discussion.
> ---
> > world.
> >
> >
l discussion.
153a156
>
popos/pts/4 bash ~ 08:55 1$
would be very useful to readers who want to stay up-to-date.
* Andrew M.A. Cater [25-03/01=Sat 18:01 +]:
> Debian-user is a mailing list provided for [...]
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025, 9:12 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> You might want to add a bullet point addressing folks adding "SOLVED"
> and similar to titles. Either allow it or forbid it. But write it down
> so everyone knows what the policy is.
>
> I recommend the list forbid it
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:18:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> [SOLVED] "Can't configure network on Debian - please advise"
>
> would make it a lot easier to find answers on some of the longer
> threads concerning problems. As ever, opinions may vary and i'd like
> to know what others f
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:18:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> There is something to be said for it if you have a long thread
> where the topic or subject is initially imprecise - a hypothetical
> example follows:
>
> "Can't configure network on Debian - please advise" might attract
> twe
I had addressed it by suggesting that people change the
subject appropriately and mark changes of topic. I'll add it next
month.
> I recommend the list forbid it. A mailing list is not a forum, like BB.
>
There is something to be said for it if you have a long thread
where the topic or s
You might want to add a bullet point addressing folks adding "SOLVED"
and similar to titles. Either allow it or forbid it. But write it down
so everyone knows what the policy is.
I recommend the list forbid it. A mailing list is not a forum, like BB.
Jeff
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:07
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:53:43AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The argument does still stand that most archivers — including the one
> used by Debian for its lists — do better than gmail et al, though. So it
> comes down to inconveniencing actual list members vs future archive
> readers.
>
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 02:02:45PM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> is it possible for moderator to remove posts that go astray too far when
> archiving?
>
Hi hlyg,
The Debian lists don't work quite that way. It's quite hard to establish
that there's nothing useful even in the longest threads. Also, Debian
a
is it possible for moderator to remove posts that go astray too far when
archiving?
This is is a formal request to end participation in the long threads
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Since the beginning of January 2025, the majority of list traffic has
been taken up by long threads. At least one of these has carried on since
last month.
Please refrain from off-topic discussion
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On 07/09/2024 06:01 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list
Max writes:
> Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI.
Yes, of course Gnus: it's what I use. But there is no point in
mentioning anything connected with Emacs when talking about enticing
people away from Facebook et al even though it is actually quite easy to
use these days.
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On 09/07/2024 23:15, John Hasler wrote:
I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
Even easier might be a browser plugin.
Thunderbird supports NNTP and likely Claws as well. Gnus (Emacs) should
be a bit more than just text UI.
I am in doubts what you mean by "browser
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
> KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
>
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Other
On 7/9/24 16:32, cgi...@surfnaked.ca wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler wrote:
> I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
> Even easier might be a browser plugin.
The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical
as you'd want to
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler
wrote:
> I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
> Even easier might be a browser plugin.
The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical
as you'd want to get. Although I normally use slrn for Usen
On 07/09/2024 12:30 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that ned
On 07/09/2024 12:25 PM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
> for
> KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that nedit
has everything I need. If you can't
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
> for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
>
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Others must have the same general problem
your name. :-D
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others must have the same general problem.
In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something,
anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good
resource, I bookmark it so that
On 07/09/2024 08:59 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I
just don't know how to find suitable list.
Did you try the general KDE mailinglist?
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde
Sirius writes:
> Usenet is rather quiet these days, something I hope will change once
> people tire of web-forums that is more preoccupied with showing you
> ads than they are solving your problem.
Not as long as browsers fail to support it and the myth that it cannot
handle anything but plain tex
they would
create a list for the audience you seek if there isn't one already. Or
check with the KDE project if they have a dedicated list for Kate and if
not, would they be happy to create one >
If you want to create a mailing list, yourself, with free hosting (for
up to 100 subscribers),
how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Others must have the same general problem.
In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something,
anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good
resource, I bookmark it so that I have it to hand.
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
> When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I
> just don't know how to find suitable list.
Did you try the general KDE mailinglist?
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde
On 07/09/2024 08:25 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
For usenet you can search the active file of your server.
I was using news.eternal-september.org
Subscribe to some groups and see if
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
For usenet you can search the active file of your server.
I was using news.eternal-september.org
Subscribe to some groups and see if someone respond. But usenet is almost
dead nowadays :/
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others must have the same general problem.
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On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
If you change subject
or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
For example: New question [WAS Old topic]
Are square brackets intention
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > If you change subject
> > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
> > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
> >
> > For example: New question [WA
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > If you change subject
> > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
> > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
> >
> > For example: New question [WA
On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
If you change subject
or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
For example: New question [WAS Old topic]
Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips "(wa
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 03:26:03AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> > If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> > thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> > the new s
Hello,
On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> the new subject would get buried in the old thread.
Personally I prefer that. I
On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> the new subject would get buried in the old thread.
There's a difference between natural
The refactoring and headers are an improvement, thank you.
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:56:03 +
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> subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly
> seen.
>
> For example: New ques
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first confirming with the people involved that doing so is acceptable?
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Hi,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> * It may also be useful to for someone to post a summary email from time to
> time to explain long threads.
You did not move the old "to" but rather added a new one during the change
from the text in 2023/12/msg00045.html to the new one:
> > * It may also be usef
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> > > HE
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 20:39:51 (+), piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
> >
> > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
> > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-
Hi,
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> This is from my other post in this thread—no LDOSUBSCRIBER:
>
> > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=CAPINIT,FOURLA,
> > HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,LDO_WHITELIST,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,
> >
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 17:24:53 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
>
> I got your message via the list.
>
> > Have received any messages since Nov 30
>
> Normal traffic yesterday and today, i'd say.
On 12/1/23 11:36, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Pocket wrote:
Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
Have received any messages since Nov 30
I can not tell if I am still subscribed
I get
Error: Overload
On thehttps://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Looks like I
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:39:51PM +, piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
> >
> > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
> > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:47PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
> >
> > > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > > privat
piorunz writes:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>>> Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
>>
>> Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
>> the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Oh, ok
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 16:32:44 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100
> Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
> >
> > > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the
> > > next three were on 29th at
> > > 08:39
> > > 13:14
> > > 15:5
On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
Cheers
Oh, ok, I didn't know that. That's why the
Hi,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> * Before posting, it may be useful to check your post for spelling mistakes
> and scan it for redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy.
Some wisdom cannot be repeated enough.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
>
> > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > private conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
>
>
> Have a nic
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