On Sat, Mar 1, 2025, 9:12 PM Jeffrey Walton <noloa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might want to add a bullet point addressing folks adding "SOLVED" > and similar to titles. Either allow it or forbid it. But write it down > so everyone knows what the policy is. > > I recommend the list forbid it. A mailing list is not a forum, like BB. > > Jeff > Disagree. A mailing list - this one anyway - is very much like a forum, and people search the archive for solutions Patrick > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:07 PM Andrew M.A. Cater <amaca...@einval.com> > wrote: > > > > Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > > > Codes of Conduct > > ================ > > > > * The list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to > both > > the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of > Conduct > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct > > > > Guidelines for this list > > ======================== > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list should work: > > > > Language > > ======== > > > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other > mailing > > lists that are language-specific, for example, debian-user-french or > > debian-user-catalan > > > > * It is common for users to be redirected here from other lists, for > example, > > from debian-project. It is also common for people to be posting here > when > > English is not their primary language. Please be considerate. > > > > Answering questions and contributing to discussions constructively > > ================================================================== > > > > * This is a fairly busy mailing list but even so you may have to wait > some > > time for an answer - please be patient. > > > > * Help and advice on this list is provided by volunteers in their own > time. > > It is common for there to be different opinions or answers provided. > > > > * It is not necessary to answer every post on the mailing list. > > > > * Be constructive in your responses. It may be that somebody else answers > > a question before you - if so, you should not reply simply in order to > get > > the last word in, only reply if you can add useful information. > > > > * Don't feed the trolls: it's not necessary to reply to every post. > > > > If someone is trolling/misbehaving - don't amplify it by commenting > > on the list and giving them attention. Do report it to > commun...@debian.org > > > > There is also the option to refer directly to > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > In both cases, do reference which post it is - user, date, mailing > list and > > topic. Multiple reports may add background detail to justify further > action. > > > > * Auto-generated posts and posts from large language models (LLMs) > > These are potentially not welcome. They have the potential to confuse > > readers and the information may not be correct. If a writer is not > > confident, they might be used to improve a draft of a post. If you > > do use an LLM or auto-generation, please indicate that parts of your > > mailing list message may have been assisted by auto-generation. > > > > Off-topic posts > > =============== > > > > * Please try to stay on topic. > > > > * Off-topic posts will happen occasionally as threads wander. > > Don't reply to them to make them carry on. > > > > * If you wish to introduce an off-topic subject that might be > > of interest to the wider list, start a new thread and preface > > the title with [OT]. > > > > * There is no debian-offtopic mailing list: please don't try > > to start one. > > > > Partisan topics and political arguments > > ======================================= > > > > * Arguments for the sake of it are not welcome here. > > > > * Partisan political / religious / cultural arguments do not belong here > > either. > > > > Debian's community is world wide; do not assume others will agree with > your > > views or need to read them on a Debian list. > > > > This is a list discussing Debian and technical and wider issues > concerning > > Debian, not national politics, religious views and so on - the chances > > are that your wider readership is just not interested in these things > which > > might be very important to you but irrelevant to the rest of the wider > > world. > > > > Off-topic arguments also have a habit of derailing useful discussion. > > > > Editing and answering mailing list posts > > ======================================== > > > > * It is helpful to write meaningful subject lines. If you change subject > > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email > > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. > > > > For example: New question [WAS Old topic] > > > > * It may also be useful for someone to post a summary email from time to > > time to explain long threads. > > > > * Before posting, it may be useful to check your post for spelling > mistakes > > and scan it for redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy. > > > > * Clear replies and a short mailing list thread are much easier to > > read and follow than long threads. > > > > * If you are replying to a post, please reply in-line if possible and > > cut out extra text that is not relevant to your point. > > > > Private replies and responding to posts off-list > > ================================================ > > > > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private > > conversations don't benefit people who may only be following > > along on the list or reading the archives later. > > > > * We're only human: you may want to respond to someone off-list > > to make a point (or to wish them Happy Birthday / comment that you > > haven't seen them for a long time). We're also a community and the > > people you find on the list may become familiar friends > > > > BUT > > > > * Posting outside the list can be unhelpful: bad behaviour outside the > lists > > can't easily be dealt with and will be invisible. You may > inadvertently leak > > personal information by posting a private reply back to the list. > > > > If you *do* want to post outside the list - make it clear that you > have done > > so at the top of the message. If someone replies to you privately and > you > > think that this should go back to the list - ask them to post it to > the list > > - do not just do so on their behalf without checking. > > > > I can't see what I want here - help me! > > ======================================= > > > > * It is often useful to look through the archives to see whether the > issue > > you wish to raise or a similar issue has been raised before by someone > > else. The top level link to the archives of this list is at > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ organised by year, then month. > > > > * Although there are only twenty or thirty regular contributors, there > may > > be a couple of thousand readers in the background. Nobody is > > a mind reader, nobody can sit beside you. Please help by providing > > useful details if asked, especially which version of Debian you are > > running. > > > > I'm not using Debian but ... > > ============================ > > > > * Strictly, discussions of other distributions are off-topic here. > > Please note: advice on Linux distributions other than Debian will be > > only our best guess - other distributions may do things very > differently. > > > > Any advice given accordingly may be inaccurate but is given in good > faith. > > Repeated requests for off-topic advice may lead to a ban. > > > > FAQ topics > > ========== > > > > * There is an FAQ on the Debian wiki derived from some questions asked > on this > > list at https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser > > > > This is a public list, archived in many places > > ============================================== > > > > * One question that comes up on almost all Debian lists from time to time > > is of the form: > > > > "I have done something wrong / included personal details in an email. > > Could you please delete my name / details / remove the mail" > > > > Practically, this is impossible: the mailing lists are archived, > potentially > > cached by Google and so on. > > > > Unfortunately, there is nothing much we can do to ensure that all copies > > anywhere on the Internet are deleted. Asking to do this may only serve to > > draw further attention - the so-called "Streisand effect" > > See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect > > > > Problems and inappropriate behaviour? > > ===================================== > > > > Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the > > Debian Community Team <commun...@debian.org>. > > > > Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings: repeated bad > > behaviour may lead to temporary or permanent bans for offenders. > > > >
