Re: mail log question

2025-09-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Can you clarify: does it have fewer CVEs because Devuan is Debian without systemd and I believe it is explained by the fact that systemds coding standards are quite poor which is confirmed by analysing atleast some of the bugs. Is some explained by more new code and attention; probably. The

Re: mail log question

2025-09-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-12 14:22:34 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: > If you just want to see all "mail-related" messages with journalctl, you > can use > > $ journalctl --facility mail Indeed, thanks a lot! > That doesn't help with journalctl's slowness if the jour

mail log question

2025-09-17 Thread Rob Hoo
Hello I am using debian 12: $ lsb_release -cd No LSB modules are available. Description:Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Codename: bookworm I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared in /var/log/. do you know how can I check the mail log then? Thanks.

Re: mail log question

2025-09-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:37:22 -, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > I will try to install rsyslog by first. thanks Greg. > > Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs > anyway. Suggesting that someone replace their *entire* operating system just because Debian no lo

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Markus Schönhaber
okworm (it gives just a few logs): >> >> Sep 08 01:50:46 joooj systemd[1]: Starting postfix.service - Postfix Mail >> Transport Agent... >> Sep 08 01:50:46 joooj systemd[1]: Finished postfix.service - Postfix Mail >> Transport Agent. >> >> Using a pattern

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
ix\*" already give them without needing to be root. > If you want all of the "mail-related" messages to be in a single > file, install rsyslog and use the traditional human-readable log files > under /var/log. It is already installed on my mail server, and /var/log is w

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-12 16:10:38 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2025-09-12 09:53:31 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > hobbit:~$ journalctl -u ssh > > Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system. > > Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages. > >

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
as a > fact, though... Timings on another machine (sid), where I do not receive mail, though: $ time -f %E journalctl --facility mail | wc -l 0:00.18 31247 $ time -f %E journalctl -u postfix\* | wc -l 0:00.74 31636 $ time -f %E journalctl -u postfix | wc -l 0:00.15 27119 So it seems that this is actuall

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-09-12): > Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages. Not root, users in these groups. Though how you managed to install your system and get yourself authorized for sudo bot not at least in the adm group is anybody's guess. Regards, -- Nicolas

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Markus Schönhaber
12.09.25, 15:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre: > On 2025-09-12 14:22:34 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: >> If you just want to see all "mail-related" messages with journalctl, you >> can use >> >> $ journalctl --facility mail > > Indeed, thanks a lot! > &

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > I don't have postfix installed on a system with systemd/journal > logging, so I can't directly demonstrate everything. I'm relying on > people to do some things correctly on their own. I do. toncho/~/polo 20 journalctl --facility mail Hint: You are curre

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-09-12 09:53:31 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > hobbit:~$ journalctl -u ssh > Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system. > Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages. > Pass -q to turn off this notice. > -- No entries -- > hobbit

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 15:36:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2025-09-12 08:05:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The other thing you might need to know is that you can get different > > levels of verbosity when you run the journalctl command as root vs. > > non-root. When you "only" got the

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
s root. Which could be dangerous as it seems as usual systemd does not follow best practices and conducts these searches of potentially untrusted input as root even if it escapes etc. it is also written in C and not something safer like Ada. If you want all of the "mail-related" messag

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
gt; > > journalctl -u postfix > > > > where "postfix" is the systemd service name in question, will show you > > the logs for that service. > > No, this is incorrect, at least on bookworm (it gives just a few logs): > > Sep 08 01:50:46 joooj systemd[1]

Re: mail log question

2025-09-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
md service name in question, will show you > the logs for that service. No, this is incorrect, at least on bookworm (it gives just a few logs): Sep 08 01:50:46 joooj systemd[1]: Starting postfix.service - Postfix Mail Transport Agent... Sep 08 01:50:46 joooj systemd[1]: Finished postfix.ser

Re: mail log question

2025-09-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I will try to install rsyslog by first. thanks Greg. Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs anyway. -- Regards, Kc

Re: mail log question

2025-09-10 Thread Nicolas George
Kevin Chadwick (HE12025-09-10): > Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs > anyway. Can you clarify: does it have fewer CVEs because it has fewer security flaws, or does it have fewer CVEs because it has all the security flaws in Debian but nobody bothered to register

Re: mail log question

2025-09-09 Thread Rob Hoo
On 2025-09-10 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 01:25:33 +, Rob Hoo wrote: >> I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared >> in /var/log/. >> >> do you know how can I check the mail log then? > > Is the rsy

Re: mail log question

2025-09-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 01:25:33 +, Rob Hoo wrote: > I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared > in /var/log/. > > do you know how can I check the mail log then? Is the rsyslog package installed? It's not installed by default in newer relea

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-11 Thread Mike McClain
On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:49:53AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > Have you read the mail? > > Anything else you do until you know what it want to say to you is a > waste of your time. > > -- > Nicolas George Clearly your mind is made up so I'll not argue with

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Mike McClain (HE12025-08-10): > Someone else suggested /etc/aliases which in my case has sent > everything to root then root to mike for over 20+ years and there is > no system mail being generated at that time. Have you read the mail? Anything else you do until you know what it want

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 21:48:53 -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > BTW, MAILCHECK="" sets it at 0. That is *extremely* odd. The only way that could happen is if you've turned on the "-i" attribute for the MAILCHECK variable. This is not the default. hobbit:~$ bash hobbit:~$ declare -p MAILCHECK bash

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-10 Thread Mike McClain
On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 07:18:38PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Did this only start recently? What changed? It's been going on for a while but happened just as I was getting ready to read mail, therefore the post. > I do apologize for a mis-statement in my previous email,

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-10 Thread Nicolas George
Mike McClain (HE12025-08-09): > Other suggestions welcome, The right suggestion was given to you by Dan Purgert two days ago: Read that mail and then delete it. Do not skip the read part, it is probably something you need to know about your system. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-09 Thread Will Mengarini
* Mike McClain [25-08/09=Sa 17:31 -0500]: > Other suggestions welcome, I use 'shopt -u mailwarn' which seems to work.

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
when opening a new TTY, it is most > annoying > when entering a command on the commandline, breaking the command onto two > lines with > 'You have mail' in the midst. It will look like this: > mike@RPI4b3:~> ls /mc/bYou have mail in /var/mail/mike > in/my.* > mike@R

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-09 Thread Mike McClain
ine, breaking the command onto two lines with 'You have mail' in the midst. It will look like this: mike@RPI4b3:~> ls /mc/bYou have mail in /var/mail/mike in/my.* mike@RPI4b3:~> echo $MAIL /var/mail/mike You have mail in /var/mail/mike mike@RPI4b3:~> echo $MAILCHECK 0 This is set

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 08, 2025 at 14:48:01 -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > Is there any way to stop this most annoying message from appearing on > the commandlineas I'm entering some command? Assuming you're running bash, the variables in question are: MAIL If this parameter is

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-08 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 08, 2025 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > Is there any way to stop this most annoying message from appearing on > the commandlineas I'm entering some command? > Thanks, > Mike You'll have to provide somewhat more context to get a meaningful help, but I'll draw heavily on my c

Re: stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-08 Thread Dan Purgert
On Aug 08, 2025, Mike McClain wrote: > Is there any way to stop this most annoying message from appearing on > the commandlineas I'm entering some command? Seems the system has sent your user some mail. Check / clear it - as I recall, the 'mail' command is what you're

stop "You have mail in /var/mail/mike"

2025-08-08 Thread Mike McClain
Is there any way to stop this most annoying message from appearing on the commandlineas I'm entering some command? Thanks, Mike -- We are the only country in the world that waits till we get into a war, before we start getting ready for it. - Will Rogers

Подтвердите свой e-mail в Discord

2025-07-24 Thread Discord
Hey catboxpwww, Thanks for registering for an account on Discord! Before we get started, we just need to confirm that this is you. Click below to verify your email address: Verify Email: https://click.discord.com/ls/click?upn=u001.a0NJ38DJJG1sulNx5wS1jq2Trm-2FND-2F8pNqpHdomuLLZSGXZqUjW

Re: kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 18:29:33 +0200 Hans wrote: > is anyone using kmail? > > I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for > example "advice", then a wav file is played. > > But this is also played, when I am sendin a mail with the wor

Re: kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Jul 2025 at 18:29:33 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > is anyone using kmail? > > I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for > example "advice", then a wav file is played. > > But this is also played, when I am sendi

kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread Hans
Dear list, is anyone using kmail? I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for example "advice", then a wav file is played. But this is also played, when I am sendin a mail with the word "advice" in the headline. This suddenly appeared, but I

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Nicolas George
Ralph Aichinger (HE12025-06-29): > Nothing related to spam or server-side bouncing, or maybe even to the > intended purpose of bouncing, but I absolutely love bouncing mails > in mutt instead of forwarding. I need some mail on the address > I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only d

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:47:43AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:55:56AM +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need > > some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it.

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:55:56AM +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need > some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only do > this to my own mail addresses. > > Am I alone in this use case

Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Ralph Aichinger
purpose of bouncing, but I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only do this to my own mail addresses. Am I alone in this use case of bounces? Or is this considered an abuse? /ralph

Re: Dada Mail

2025-06-19 Thread john doe
On 6/18/25 18:54, Tom Browder wrote: Once again I'm looking for a *simple, easy to manage* mailing list. Any of you folks use Dada Mail? For marketing purposes. -Tom MailMan or you could also use freelist.org. -- John Doe

Dada Mail

2025-06-18 Thread Tom Browder
Once again I'm looking for a *simple, easy to manage* mailing list. Any of you folks use Dada Mail? -Tom

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-24 Thread Rob van der Putten
person, but I think now few domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and probably deserves to be blacklisted). https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5321.html

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-23 Thread Joe
arded to the person, but I think now > >> few domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. > > > > Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having > > a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and > > probably deserves to

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-22, The Wanderer wrote: > > These days, I would be *surprised* if most mail-accepting domains *did* > have a postmaster address - and even more so if they actually had > someone monitoring it, or otherwise ensuring that mail sent to it didn't > just get dropped

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread The Wanderer
ias. > > Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having > a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and > probably deserves to be blacklisted). > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5321.html#section-4.5.1 These days, I would be *surp

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On Wed, 2025-05-21 at 15:16 +0100, Joe wrote: > There was a time you could have emailed postmaster@ and asked > that a message be forwarded to the person, but I think now few > domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 12:26 PM john doe wrote: > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the > first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just > missing the

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2025 15:21:15 +0200 john doe wrote: > Hello all, > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have > the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2025, 15:24:36 CEST schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the > > first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > In general

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-21 at 09:24, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: > >> Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have >> the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > In general, no. T

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? In general, no. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗

Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread john doe
Hello all, Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just missing the correct e-mail for that specific person and to directly message

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2025-05-08 08:37, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know what email program you are using, but SeaMonkey has an option to request "Delivery Status Notification". Try your application's equivalent. I've sent this reply to both you and the list so I'll have an example tracking message available f

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 8, 2025 at 3:39 PM BST, Antonio Russo wrote: I can see my message on the debian-user list (and did so almost immediately), so it's got to be something specific to debian-devel. It's possible that -devel is currently being moderated; it didn't used to be, but some lists are/were, and

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Richard Owlett
ng connection message for both. HTH On 5/8/25 8:52 AM, Antonio Russo wrote: Hello everyone! I'm having trouble posting to debian-devel.  Mail submits fine (possibly after a 450 greylist, but that doesn't seem to matter).  I receive no email bounces.  But, my email neither shows up on th

silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Antonio Russo
Hello everyone! I'm having trouble posting to debian-devel. Mail submits fine (possibly after a 450 greylist, but that doesn't seem to matter). I receive no email bounces. But, my email neither shows up on the debian-devel mailing list archive, nor do I receive a copy of it sent

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 11:13:19PM +0200, Paul Duncan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Richmond wrote: > > > Roger Price writes: > > > > > > > > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. > > > > Is that be

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Paul Duncan
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Richmond wrote: > Roger Price writes: > > > > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. > Is that because they are using systems which use punched cards? Paul. -- *Paul Duncan*

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Nicolas George
Richmond (HE12025-04-19): > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. If the mail is in text/plain without format=flowed, then “less than 80 even with a few quote marks in front” IS the etiquette, it h

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Richmond
Roger Price writes: > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. I think he must be having a laugh. Tell him it *is* blue. Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap at 72 chara

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 16:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > >> ... when he tries to tell you how to do it > >Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". >Problem solved. Roger This thread reminds why I le

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 5:37 AM, Roger Price wrote: I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed? -- JHHL

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 06:42:57PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > ... he wanted me to be the first to write in blue, and then others > > would follow. > > Ah, at last the reason. *He* has a personal problem and expects the rest of > the > world to

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Since the sender has no knowledge of what MUA (or browser) any receiver > > is using there's no way to know how to configure whatever they're using. > > ... and the OP has presumably received an email from that guy so they > can check the headers to

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Since the sender has no knowledge of what MUA (or browser) any receiver > is using there's no way to know how to configure whatever they're using. There's only one user of interest here (the idiot requesting a specific color) and the OP has presumably received an email from that guy so they can

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Thank you for the link to https://useplaintext.email/ . It may help me explain why I have SeaMonkey set to disable JavaScript, cookies, and ignore site specified images/background when surfing. [I date back to days of Netscape Navigator ;]

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread debian-user
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Looking at > > https://framalistes.org/sympa/arc/ospo.onramp/2025-03/msg1.html > > as an example, it appears your text may become blue if you precede > > your message with and follow > > it with > > Yeah, making it a link might render it blue. > If you do that, I

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
blems. In that case just tell him that you have tried and cannot work out how to do it. He will think that you are stupid but if/when he tries to tell you how to do it and realises that it is not that simple, a penny might drop. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, N

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
> On 4/17/25 9:52 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > The mailing list is run by framalistes.org . They accept > > almost anything and forcibly HTMLize it. Roger James H. H. Lampert (HE12025-04-17): > That's ass-backwards. That would be ass-backwards if that were true. Fortunately, that is just not true

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 10:17:54 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Alain D D Williams wrote: > > I read/write email using mutt in a mate terminal. It is black & white. If I > > ssh > > in from my laptop it is yellow & black (I cannot remember why I set it up > > like > > that). > > For about a decade,

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 9:52 AM, Roger Price wrote: The mailing list is run by framalistes.org . They accept almost anything and forcibly HTMLize it. Roger That's ass-backwards. Then again, looking at their site, so is everything else they do, including their TOU. I wonder if that's a symptom of excess

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
David Wright (HE12025-04-17): > Same here: coloured bash prompt, with reverse video for root. I see your reverse-video prompt and I raise with: My *keyboard* becomes red when I type in a terminal with a root shell or processes descended from one. I had forgotten I had that enabled, though, since

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Looking at > https://framalistes.org/sympa/arc/ospo.onramp/2025-03/msg1.html as > an example, it appears your text may become blue if you precede your > message with and follow it with > Yeah, making it a link might render it blue. If you do that, I think it'd be worthwhile to make it a va

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread debian-user
Roger Price wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: > > > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". > > > Problem solved. Roger > > > > > I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; > > Your 1.png is neat.

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
he same setup as he has. > https://useplaintext.email/ A good site. Tell him to read it. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registrati

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/17/25 8:19 AM, Nicolas George wrote: to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome monitor will be incapable to read

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > On 4/17/25 5:37 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed?

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: > > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem > > solved. Roger > > > I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; Your 1.png is neat. The mailing list is run by framalistes.or

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
l problem and expects the rest of the world to change to make his life easier. The real solution to this is to fix his MUA to address his visual difficulty. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phc

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 9:42 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, James H. H. Lampert wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed? I wondered, but his manner and the way he spoke about his visual difficulty suggested that he wanted me to be the first to write in blue, an

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: ... when he tries to tell you how to do it Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem solved. Roger I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; -- With kindest regards, Alexan

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
mail : I tried adding > the > ASCII codes that produce colored text in a X terminal, for example the > command > echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing col

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 9:45 AM Roger Price wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when > > > I > > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > > > That is

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem > solved. Roger “I did. I am sure my mail is blue. Is it not?” and join a screenshot. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Alain D D Williams wrote: > I read/write email using mutt in a mate terminal. It is black & white. If I > ssh > in from my laptop it is yellow & black (I cannot remember why I set it up like > that). For about a decade, I color-coded the default text in my terminals to indicate where I was SSHd

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > ... when he tries to tell you how to do it Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem solved. Roger

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
> penny might drop. I'm sure he'll declare that it *is* that simple: just compose the mail in HTML, and set the composer to specify a blue font color. The fact that this won't work for all recipient mail clients won't matter to him, since it *will* work for *his* mail client

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 02:55:31PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when > > > I > > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > >

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > That is idiotic and harmful. I agree with you completely. > Tell you will comp

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 03:19:49PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): > > Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF > > (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, > > when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome m

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): > Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF > (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, > when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome monitor will > be incapable to read them (perhaps they believe you). Mon

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
ill comply only if there is a > compelling justification. (There is not.) You could also tell him that he should be able to configure his(?) mail client to display incoming plain-text E-mail in blue. That sort of display formatting is properly a client-side matter, and is not for the sender to det

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
I tried adding > the > ASCII codes that produce colored text in a X terminal, for example the > command > echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing colored te

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing colored text without using HTML ? Not possible. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
, for example the command echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored in an e-mail message body. Is there some way of producing colored text without using HTML ? Roger https://useplaintext.email/

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
m mostly writing mail on the same machine as my MTA, to mostly writing it on my end-user machine). I don't know if I stopped using it at that point, but in either case, I'm currently using a different MUA (aerc) and I haven't yet investigated whether it does f=f. > Was it becau

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", > > > > which it seems

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text or a calendar invitation o

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