Re: kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 18:29:33 +0200 Hans wrote: > is anyone using kmail? > > I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for > example "advice", then a wav file is played. > > But this is also played, when I am sendin a mail with the wor

Re: kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Jul 2025 at 18:29:33 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > is anyone using kmail? > > I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for > example "advice", then a wav file is played. > > But this is also played, when I am sendi

kmail: Sound at sending mail

2025-07-14 Thread Hans
Dear list, is anyone using kmail? I have added a rule, when a string is in the subject, let us say for example "advice", then a wav file is played. But this is also played, when I am sendin a mail with the word "advice" in the headline. This suddenly appeared, but I

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Nicolas George
Ralph Aichinger (HE12025-06-29): > Nothing related to spam or server-side bouncing, or maybe even to the > intended purpose of bouncing, but I absolutely love bouncing mails > in mutt instead of forwarding. I need some mail on the address > I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only d

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:47:43AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:55:56AM +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need > > some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it.

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:55:56AM +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need > some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only do > this to my own mail addresses. > > Am I alone in this use case

Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Ralph Aichinger
purpose of bouncing, but I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only do this to my own mail addresses. Am I alone in this use case of bounces? Or is this considered an abuse? /ralph

Re: Dada Mail

2025-06-19 Thread john doe
On 6/18/25 18:54, Tom Browder wrote: Once again I'm looking for a *simple, easy to manage* mailing list. Any of you folks use Dada Mail? For marketing purposes. -Tom MailMan or you could also use freelist.org. -- John Doe

Dada Mail

2025-06-18 Thread Tom Browder
Once again I'm looking for a *simple, easy to manage* mailing list. Any of you folks use Dada Mail? -Tom

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-24 Thread Rob van der Putten
person, but I think now few domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and probably deserves to be blacklisted). https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5321.html

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-23 Thread Joe
arded to the person, but I think now > >> few domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. > > > > Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having > > a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and > > probably deserves to

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-22, The Wanderer wrote: > > These days, I would be *surprised* if most mail-accepting domains *did* > have a postmaster address - and even more so if they actually had > someone monitoring it, or otherwise ensuring that mail sent to it didn't > just get dropped

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread The Wanderer
ias. > > Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without having > a properly configured postmaster address is not spec-compliant (and > probably deserves to be blacklisted). > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5321.html#section-4.5.1 These days, I would be *surp

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On Wed, 2025-05-21 at 15:16 +0100, Joe wrote: > There was a time you could have emailed postmaster@ and asked > that a message be forwarded to the person, but I think now few > domains actually have a postmaster user or alias. Any mailserver accepting mail for a particular domain without

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 12:26 PM john doe wrote: > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the > first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just > missing the

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2025 15:21:15 +0200 john doe wrote: > Hello all, > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have > the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2025, 15:24:36 CEST schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: > > Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the > > first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > In general

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-21 at 09:24, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: > >> Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have >> the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? > > In general, no. T

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed May 21, 2025 at 2:21 PM BST, john doe wrote: Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? In general, no. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗

Find e-mail address based on first and last name

2025-05-21 Thread john doe
Hello all, Is there a way to find the correct e-mail address if you only have the first and last name and the domain ((jane doe domain.TLD)? I know that it is possible to send e-mails to that domain I'm just missing the correct e-mail for that specific person and to directly message

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2025-05-08 08:37, Richard Owlett wrote: I don't know what email program you are using, but SeaMonkey has an option to request "Delivery Status Notification". Try your application's equivalent. I've sent this reply to both you and the list so I'll have an example tracking message available f

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 8, 2025 at 3:39 PM BST, Antonio Russo wrote: I can see my message on the debian-user list (and did so almost immediately), so it's got to be something specific to debian-devel. It's possible that -devel is currently being moderated; it didn't used to be, but some lists are/were, and

Re: silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Richard Owlett
ng connection message for both. HTH On 5/8/25 8:52 AM, Antonio Russo wrote: Hello everyone! I'm having trouble posting to debian-devel.  Mail submits fine (possibly after a 450 greylist, but that doesn't seem to matter).  I receive no email bounces.  But, my email neither shows up on th

silent mail drops

2025-05-08 Thread Antonio Russo
Hello everyone! I'm having trouble posting to debian-devel. Mail submits fine (possibly after a 450 greylist, but that doesn't seem to matter). I receive no email bounces. But, my email neither shows up on the debian-devel mailing list archive, nor do I receive a copy of it sent

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 11:13:19PM +0200, Paul Duncan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Richmond wrote: > > > Roger Price writes: > > > > > > > > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. > > > > Is that be

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Paul Duncan
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Richmond wrote: > Roger Price writes: > > > > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. > Is that because they are using systems which use punched cards? Paul. -- *Paul Duncan*

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Nicolas George
Richmond (HE12025-04-19): > Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap > at 72 characters or their email client can't cope. If the mail is in text/plain without format=flowed, then “less than 80 even with a few quote marks in front” IS the etiquette, it h

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-19 Thread Richmond
Roger Price writes: > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. I think he must be having a laugh. Tell him it *is* blue. Some people will try it on though, like saying your posts have to wrap at 72 chara

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 16:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > >> ... when he tries to tell you how to do it > >Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". >Problem solved. Roger This thread reminds why I le

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 5:37 AM, Roger Price wrote: I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed? -- JHHL

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 06:42:57PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > ... he wanted me to be the first to write in blue, and then others > > would follow. > > Ah, at last the reason. *He* has a personal problem and expects the rest of > the > world to

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Since the sender has no knowledge of what MUA (or browser) any receiver > > is using there's no way to know how to configure whatever they're using. > > ... and the OP has presumably received an email from that guy so they > can check the headers to

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Since the sender has no knowledge of what MUA (or browser) any receiver > is using there's no way to know how to configure whatever they're using. There's only one user of interest here (the idiot requesting a specific color) and the OP has presumably received an email from that guy so they can

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Thank you for the link to https://useplaintext.email/ . It may help me explain why I have SeaMonkey set to disable JavaScript, cookies, and ignore site specified images/background when surfing. [I date back to days of Netscape Navigator ;]

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread debian-user
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Looking at > > https://framalistes.org/sympa/arc/ospo.onramp/2025-03/msg1.html > > as an example, it appears your text may become blue if you precede > > your message with and follow > > it with > > Yeah, making it a link might render it blue. > If you do that, I

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
blems. In that case just tell him that you have tried and cannot work out how to do it. He will think that you are stupid but if/when he tries to tell you how to do it and realises that it is not that simple, a penny might drop. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, N

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
> On 4/17/25 9:52 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > The mailing list is run by framalistes.org . They accept > > almost anything and forcibly HTMLize it. Roger James H. H. Lampert (HE12025-04-17): > That's ass-backwards. That would be ass-backwards if that were true. Fortunately, that is just not true

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 10:17:54 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Alain D D Williams wrote: > > I read/write email using mutt in a mate terminal. It is black & white. If I > > ssh > > in from my laptop it is yellow & black (I cannot remember why I set it up > > like > > that). > > For about a decade,

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 9:52 AM, Roger Price wrote: The mailing list is run by framalistes.org . They accept almost anything and forcibly HTMLize it. Roger That's ass-backwards. Then again, looking at their site, so is everything else they do, including their TOU. I wonder if that's a symptom of excess

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
David Wright (HE12025-04-17): > Same here: coloured bash prompt, with reverse video for root. I see your reverse-video prompt and I raise with: My *keyboard* becomes red when I type in a terminal with a root shell or processes descended from one. I had forgotten I had that enabled, though, since

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Looking at > https://framalistes.org/sympa/arc/ospo.onramp/2025-03/msg1.html as > an example, it appears your text may become blue if you precede your > message with and follow it with > Yeah, making it a link might render it blue. If you do that, I think it'd be worthwhile to make it a va

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread debian-user
Roger Price wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: > > > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". > > > Problem solved. Roger > > > > > I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; > > Your 1.png is neat.

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
he same setup as he has. > https://useplaintext.email/ A good site. Tell him to read it. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registrati

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/17/25 8:19 AM, Nicolas George wrote: to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome monitor will be incapable to read

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > On 4/17/25 5:37 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed?

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: > > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem > > solved. Roger > > > I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; Your 1.png is neat. The mailing list is run by framalistes.or

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alain D D Williams
l problem and expects the rest of the world to change to make his life easier. The real solution to this is to fix his MUA to address his visual difficulty. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phc

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 4/17/25 9:42 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, James H. H. Lampert wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that you are being hazed? I wondered, but his manner and the way he spoke about his visual difficulty suggested that he wanted me to be the first to write in blue, an

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 17.04.2025 19:06, Roger Price wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: ... when he tries to tell you how to do it Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem solved. Roger I'd use software called GIMP. &shrug; -- With kindest regards, Alexan

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
mail : I tried adding > the > ASCII codes that produce colored text in a X terminal, for example the > command > echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing col

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 9:45 AM Roger Price wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when > > > I > > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > > > That is

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem > solved. Roger “I did. I am sure my mail is blue. Is it not?” and join a screenshot. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Alain D D Williams wrote: > I read/write email using mutt in a mate terminal. It is black & white. If I > ssh > in from my laptop it is yellow & black (I cannot remember why I set it up like > that). For about a decade, I color-coded the default text in my terminals to indicate where I was SSHd

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Alain D D Williams wrote: > ... when he tries to tell you how to do it Very easy for him - he's a manager - he will say "Use software!". Problem solved. Roger

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
> penny might drop. I'm sure he'll declare that it *is* that simple: just compose the mail in HTML, and set the composer to specify a blue font color. The fact that this won't work for all recipient mail clients won't matter to him, since it *will* work for *his* mail client

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 02:55:31PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when > > > I > > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > >

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Roger Price (HE12025-04-17): > > I have been told by the elderly president of a club I belong to that when I > > write on the club's mailing list, it must be in blue. > > That is idiotic and harmful. I agree with you completely. > Tell you will comp

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 03:19:49PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): > > Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF > > (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, > > when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome m

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-04-17): > Now it depends on how vengeful you are: you might end up with RTF > (out of categoty 3), or you might explain to your president that, > when the mails are all blue, people with a monochrome monitor will > be incapable to read them (perhaps they believe you). Mon

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
ill comply only if there is a > compelling justification. (There is not.) You could also tell him that he should be able to configure his(?) mail client to display incoming plain-text E-mail in blue. That sort of display formatting is properly a client-side matter, and is not for the sender to det

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread tomas
I tried adding > the > ASCII codes that produce colored text in a X terminal, for example the > command > echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing colored te

Re: Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored > in > an e-mail message body. > > Is there some way of producing colored text without using HTML ? Not possible. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Colored e-mail without using \e[3;91m HTML \e[0m

2025-04-17 Thread Roger Price
, for example the command echo -e "This is a test of \e[3;91m italic red \e[0m ", but they are ignored in an e-mail message body. Is there some way of producing colored text without using HTML ? Roger https://useplaintext.email/

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
m mostly writing mail on the same machine as my MTA, to mostly writing it on my end-user machine). I don't know if I stopped using it at that point, but in either case, I'm currently using a different MUA (aerc) and I haven't yet investigated whether it does f=f. > Was it becau

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", > > > > which it seems

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text or a calendar invitation o

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
otes my msg for context. Your agent is supposed to throw it away, not retransmitting it again and again. Your sig separator arrived as "-- " not "--=20".  Why the difference? The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. Might be your settings, might be

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 10:11:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > This line has one

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 14:38:02 (-0500), eben wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:46, eben wrote: > > On 11/21/24 11:07, eben wrote: > >> On 11/20/24 10:13, eben wrote: > >> > >>> Just for kicks: > >>> This line has no trailing spaces. > >>> This line has one trailing space. > >>> This line has two trailing spa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:46, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> >>> Just for kicks: >>> This line has no trailing spaces. >>> This line has one trailing space. >>> This line has two trailing spaces. >> >> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" fr

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:46:01 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with a space. It is wrapped on my end. > >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with two spaces. It is al

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: > >> Just for kicks: >> This line has no trailing spaces. >> This line has one trailing space. >> This line has two trailing spaces. > > OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it > makes a di

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:07:07 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This line has no trailing spaces. >This line has one trailing space. >This line has two trailing spaces. No trailing spaces anywhere. Sorry. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. Narrator: It did not.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:00:11AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/11/2024 10:11, Max Nikulin wrote: Eben, you may try to inspect sources of your messages ([Ctrl+U]) from sent and draft folders. Interesting, signature separator is lost by gmane, see w3m -m 'nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user/622024' however it is present in USENET group and w

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing s

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 15:10, gene heskett wrote: That doesn't affect the dozens of miss-configured email agents here that violate those SOP's for text emails. My mail filter for debian-user seems to be working OK, everything sent to the right place. Maybe it's because I have fewer f

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
post (like this). Which is how it should be. Meanwhile my sig is correctly added and (I've just checked) sent to another account's inbox with the trailing space after -- intact. So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. That (sigh) wa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? > > I'm afraid not. Looking at your

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
he /r-- /r that triggers all this. It will be interesting how the above is treated when echo back from the server, which was the other half of my point. ;o) So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. That (sigh) was my point. That doesn't affect the

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread John Crawley
correctly added and (I've just checked) sent to another account's inbox with the trailing space after -- intact. So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. -- John

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped, >>> or is it just me? >> >> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This line has one trailing space. [...] This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts. > > Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I > configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor" > or "path" but maybe they're

Re: mail sig separator

2024-11-20 Thread Felix Miata
eben composed on 2024-11-20 12:08 (UTC-0500): > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. > Onscreen it looks fine, and the signature is greyed out. Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Where is your .sig coming from? If it's in a p

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of th

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should then locate particular messages

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
I'm not willing to tolerate. It's far from > > impossible that changes in more recent Thunderbird versions might have > > broken this. > > This is true. What version? > > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. This is

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing spaces being lost during that translation.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's happening. I guess u

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing >> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing >> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing >> space

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > Just for kicks: > This line has no trailing spaces. > This line has one trailing space. > This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. If I had to guess, I would guess that

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachme

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