Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 03:51:45AM +0300, Tran Duc Minh wrote: > I would like to ask if people in Vietnam can use Debian OS without any > restrictions. I am very interested in using Debian and want to make sure it > is fully available and supported in my country. > > Thank yo

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-20 Thread Franco Martelli
On 11/09/25 at 21:53, Andy Smith wrote: # systemctl --list-timers mdcheck_start.timer where you will see that its next trigger is still the Sunday. Here "--list-timers" is not recognized, the correct option is without initial hyphens. I looked for that option in the manual pages but without

Re: Maximum RAM supported for Debian 13

2025-09-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 07:11:03PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I also wonder what is the x86 mainboard with the currently largest > amount of usable RAM ... It is now getting even more complicated because with CXL you can add external banks of RAM connected by rack and datacentre-scale PCI

Re: Maximum RAM supported for Debian 13

2025-09-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Hornack wrote: > Is there a maxium supported RAM for Debian 13?  Also, are there other > maximums? It quite surely depends on the CPU type. https://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ says 64TiB physical memory support But i wonder whether this is just copied from CPU specs or w

Re: Maximum RAM supported for Debian 13

2025-09-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 12:02:47PM -0400, Michael Hornack wrote: > Good Day, > > Is there a maxium supported RAM for Debian 13? Also, are there other > maximums? > > Regards, > > Mike Hornack Hi Mike, The maximum supported is probably the maximum supported by

Maximum RAM supported for Debian 13

2025-09-20 Thread Michael Hornack
Good Day, Is there a maxium supported RAM for Debian 13? Also, are there other maximums? Regards, Mike Hornack

Re: [HOWTO] Make your own Debian Live ISO with live-build (repos included)

2025-09-19 Thread Richard Lewis
Kirill Rekhov writes: > I recently dove into live-build to create > *KoruX* (https://github.com/KoruX-GNU-Linux/KoruX) - a minimalist Debian 12 > (Bookworm) Live/Installed system tailored for developers and > maintainers, I wonder if there is a wiki.debian.org page you co

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-19 Thread Richmond
Felix Miata writes: > Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 23:09 (UTC+0100): > >> Felix Miata writes: > >>> Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > >>>> Why did this all go so wrong? Why would Debian 13 boot without >>>> display

Re: Triple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > This is using GPT partition layout and UEFI boot. > I had Debian 12 and Opensuse dual booting, with Debian 12 having its own > Grub, and opensuse having its own grub, so I could choose which system > from the UEFI ? firmware sett

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/09/2025 05:09, Richmond wrote: sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=debian12 [...] /boot/efi/EFI# ls -l total 20 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Oct 31 2014 Boot drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Dec 28 2023 debian drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Sep 17 17

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 19:45:18 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Isn't the os-prober disabled nowadays? I think that would explain why > other Linux installations are not being found. It's disabled by default. If you need to use it, you are instructed to edit a config file to enable it. https://w

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 6:10 PM Richmond wrote: > > Felix Miata writes: > > > Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > > > >> Why did this all go so wrong? Why would > >> Debian 13 boot without displaying Grub, even though it had a timeout of

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 23:09 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata writes: >> Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): >>> Why did this all go so wrong? Why would >>> Debian 13 boot without displaying Grub, even though it had a timeout of >>> 5 seconds?

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Richmond
Felix Miata writes: > Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > >> Why did this all go so wrong? Why would >> Debian 13 boot without displaying Grub, even though it had a timeout of >> 5 seconds? > > Grub's upstream default changed to disabling os-p

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Van Snyder composed on 2025-09-17 13:36 (UTC-0700): > On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 16:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Grub's upstream default changed to disabling os-prober, so 13's Grub doesn't >> look >> for anything else, and since the new installation had only one kernel to >> offer, >> there was

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Van Snyder
On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 16:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Grub's upstream default changed to disabling os-prober, so 13's Grub > doesn't look > for anything else, and since the new installation had only one kernel > to offer, > there was no reason to assume other than the sole known kernel to > boot.

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > Why did this all go so wrong? Why would > Debian 13 boot without displaying Grub, even though it had a timeout of > 5 seconds? Grub's upstream default changed to disabling os-prober, so 13's Grub doesn't look for anyt

[HOWTO] Make your own Debian Live ISO with live-build (repos included)

2025-09-17 Thread Kirill Rekhov
If you've ever wanted to craft a truly custom Debian-based Live ISO - whether for personal use, testing, or just experimentation - live-build is an incredibly powerful (but underrated) tool. It's the official Debian build system for creating Live systems, and with a bit of scripting yo

Re: 32 bit debian iso

2025-09-17 Thread Marco Moock
On 17.09.2025 18:50 Uhr err...@free.fr wrote: > 32bits is still a supported architecture. 32 bit isn't supported for i386/i686 anymore beginning with Debian 13 trixie. Some packages are still built for those architectures, but no kernel and not installer. -- kind regards Marco Send

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, Opensuse EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Marco Moock
On 17.09.2025 19:30 Uhr Richmond wrote: > I had Debian 12 and Opensuse dual booting, with Debian 12 having its > own Grub, and opensuse having its own grub, so I could choose which > system from the UEFI ? firmware settings on grub. Were they on the same EFI system partition? If so,

Re: 32 bit debian iso

2025-09-17 Thread Marco Moock
On 17.09.2025 18:40 Uhr santheart wrote: > I run debian 12 on my laptop which is 32bit. Please I request you to > support 32 bit architecture as before. Already discontinued. Please let us know which processor your machine has. Run lscpu and post the output here. -- kind regards Marco

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 08:55:06PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > I want the check to start on the first Monday of each month at 5pm, I made > these changes: > > ~$ cat /etc/systemd/system/mdcheck_start.timer.d/override.conf > [Unit] > Description=MD array scrubbing > > [Timer] > OnCalendar

Re: Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, openSUSE EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Richmond composed on 2025-09-17 18:14 (UTC+0100): > This is using GPT partition layout and UEFI boot. > I had Debian 12 and Opensuse dual booting, with Debian 12 having its own > Grub, and opensuse having its own grub, so I could choose which system > from the UEFI ? firmware sett

Tripple boot Debian 12, Debian 13, Opensuse EFI

2025-09-17 Thread Richmond
This is using GPT partition layout and UEFI boot. I had Debian 12 and Opensuse dual booting, with Debian 12 having its own Grub, and opensuse having its own grub, so I could choose which system from the UEFI ? firmware settings on grub. Then I installed a new system running Debian 13. During the

Re: 32 bit debian iso

2025-09-17 Thread err404
32bits is still a supported architecture. I recently installed GNU/Linux Debian on a 32bits laptop (20 years old), it is running kernel 6.1

32 bit debian iso

2025-09-17 Thread santheart
Respected Sir, I run debian 12 on my laptop which is 32bit. Please I request you to support 32 bit architecture as before. Thanks.

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-15 Thread Van Snyder
On Sun, 2025-09-14 at 21:51 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly ask if > > there are > > any plans to release Debian 14 in the future. > > I'm fairly sure that Debian doesn't plan to cease work, yes. The ne

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 14/09/2025 15:02, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On Friday, September 5th, 2025 at 8:32 PM, Joe wrote: On Fri, 05 Sep 2025 11:56:53 + Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming teo.en.m...@protonmail.com wrote: Can I install all of the desktop environments and switch between them as a

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 08:53:46PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 8:51 PM Tran Duc Minh wrote: > > > > Yes its real question > > Let me Google that for you: . Please > stop wasting people's time. Please, don't be rude(btw: you also waste

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Tran Duc Minh
Yes its real question On Mon, Sep 15, 2025, 3:50 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 8:45 PM Tran Duc Minh wrote: > > > > Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release > > > > Hello Debian Team, > > > > I hope this message finds you well. I am w

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Tran Duc Minh
I have a question for you Subject: Question About Using Debian OS in Vietnam Dear Debian Team, I hope this message finds you well. I would like to ask if people in Vietnam can use Debian OS without any restrictions. I am very interested in using Debian and want to make sure it is fully

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
4, 2025 at 8:45 PM Tran Duc Minh wrote: >> > >> > Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release >> > >> > Hello Debian Team, >> > >> > I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly ask if there >> > are any plans to release Debian 1

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 8:45 PM Tran Duc Minh wrote: > > Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release > > Hello Debian Team, > > I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly ask if there are > any plans to release Debian 14 in the future. I am very interested in s

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
GNOME appears to be the default desktop environment for many Linux distros. A lot of the reason for that is historical. A lot of distributions have another DE as the default Yep and it should really be KDE where extensions aren't needed. Gnome also just doesn't cut it for my workflow and a

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Michael Paoli
Debian releases when it's darn good and ready. Expect 14 to release probably roughly around mid-2027. Transition and Toolchain freeze likely around 2027-03-15. See also: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTrixie https://wiki.debian.org/DebianForky On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 2:39 PM Tran Duc Minh

Re: Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:21:46AM +0300, Tran Duc Minh wrote: > Hello Debian Team, We still aren't the "Debian Team", as has been pointed out to you multiple times now by multiple people. > I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly ask if there are &

Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release

2025-09-14 Thread Tran Duc Minh
Subject: Inquiry About Debian 14 Release Hello Debian Team, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly ask if there are any plans to release Debian 14 in the future. I am very interested in staying updated and would greatly appreciate any information you can share regarding its

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
tributions have > another DE as the default, i.e. that which is installed when the user > doesn't make an explicit choice, in the case of Debian, or nothing else > is offered. Debian gives you the chance to try nearly all of these > environments without having to install yet another dist

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
n't make an explicit choice, in the case of Debian, or nothing else is offered. Debian gives you the chance to try nearly all of these environments without having to install yet another distribution. Have fun. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, September 5th, 2025 at 9:46 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2025 05 Sep 07:03 -0500, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > There are so many different desktop environments and so many choices. > > > Indeed, which is a good thing. Not everyone works or thinks the same. > > >

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and > > > > debian-user. > > > > > > this one at least made i

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, September 5th, 2025 at 8:32 PM, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 05 Sep 2025 11:56:53 + > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming teo.en.m...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > > > Can I install all of the desktop environments and switch between them > > as and when I like? > > > I believe so, you can c

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, September 5th, 2025 at 10:17 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 10:00 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > >> [...] >> >> There are so many different desktop environments and so many choices. >> >> Looks like I need to experiment with everyone of them. > > A

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
ler...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I > > > don't want them being applied until after I review them. > > > > Wouldn't it be very time consuming to review every single update > > be

Re: Subject: Question About Using Debian OS in Vietnam

2025-09-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 16:42:58 +0300 Tran Duc Minh wrote: > I would like to ask if people in Vietnam can use Debian OS without any > restrictions. I am very interested in using Debian and want to make > sure it is fully available and supported in my country. As far as Debian is concern

Re: Subject: Question About Using Debian OS in Vietnam

2025-09-13 Thread Tuxifan
Hi Tran Duc Minh, Since Debian is free and open source software, it is available without any restrictions in Vietnam. I recommend you select package mirrors during installation that are nearby your location (Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, Thailand). Debian also supports the vietnamese language

Subject: Question About Using Debian OS in Vietnam

2025-09-13 Thread Tran Duc Minh
Subject: Question About Using Debian OS in Vietnam Dear Debian Team, I hope this message finds you well. I would like to ask if people in Vietnam can use Debian OS without any restrictions. I am very interested in using Debian and want to make sure it is fully available and supported in my

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 03:54:49PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 11/09/25 at 21:53, Andy Smith wrote: > > # systemctl --list-timers mdcheck_start.timer > > > > where you will see that its next trigger is still the Sunday. > > Here "--list-timers" is not recognized, the correct option is

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-12 Thread Franco Martelli
On 12/09/25 at 16:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 15:54:49 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: ~# LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 man -K list-timers No manual entry for list-timers Why does the search give no results? I think I have trouble with manpages search. Any clue? Here's what man(1) says

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 15:54:49 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > ~# LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 man -K list-timers > No manual entry for list-timers > Why does the search give no results? > I think I have trouble with manpages search. Any clue? Here's what man(1) says about the -K option: -K, --global

Re: Is there a 'plain vanilla Debian' version for RaspberryPi-5?

2025-09-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
Rick Thomas [2025-09-09 00:46:15] wrote: > The RaspberryPI-5 now comes with enough RAM to make it a reasonable choice > for a desktop personal computer. It comes with a version of Raspbian OS > that works quite well. However, I would prefer to have a plain-vanilla > Debian OS, be

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 20:55:06 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > - Should the …/override.conf file contain only the line: > > OnCalendar=Mon *-*-1..7 17:00:00 You need a [section] header above it. Also, this is a setting that allows multiple instances, so the question is whether you want *both*

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-11 Thread Andy Smith
related to this brought > up before) one of the cases where the maintainer of the relevant package > has no interest in bothering with anything related for support for > non-systemd environments, so... There is no policy in Debian against providing cron files, so just bear in mind that

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-11 Thread Franco Martelli
On 10/09/25 at 21:55, Andy Smith wrote: $ systemctl list-units --all mdcheck* UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION mdcheck_continue.service loaded inactive deadMD array scrubbing - continuation mdcheck_start.serviceloaded inactive deadMD array scrubbi

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-09-10 at 15:55, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 08:55:48PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > >> - Which rules "mdadm" now follows to start an array check? > > It's done by systemd timers now. Which does leave those of us who don't use systemd out in the cold. Sadly, t

How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-10 Thread Franco Martelli
Hello, I noticed that the file "/etc/cron.d/mdadm" is missing in the "mdadm" package in Trixie. This file checked monthly the array of disks of the RAID set, and it was there in all previous Debian stable releases. Today at 2pm I resumed from suspend to RAM my PC a

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 08:55:48PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > - Which rules "mdadm" now follows to start an array check? It's done by systemd timers now. $ systemctl list-units --all mdcheck* UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION mdcheck

Re: How mdadm checks periodically the array in Debian 13 Trixie?

2025-09-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 20:55:48 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > Today at 2pm I resumed from suspend to RAM my PC and suddenly an array > checks of my RAID 5 set was started, so the questions are: > > - Which rules "mdadm" now follows to start an array check? It's most likely being triggered by a

Re: Is there a 'plain vanilla Debian' version for RaspberryPi-5?

2025-09-09 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 09 Sep 2025 00:46:15 -0700 "Rick Thomas" wrote: > > The RaspberryPI-5 now comes with enough RAM to make it a reasonable choice > for a desktop personal computer. It comes with a version of Raspbian OS that > works quite well. However, I would prefer to have a p

Is there a 'plain vanilla Debian' version for RaspberryPi-5?

2025-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
The RaspberryPI-5 now comes with enough RAM to make it a reasonable choice for a desktop personal computer. It comes with a version of Raspbian OS that works quite well. However, I would prefer to have a plain-vanilla Debian OS, because that's what I'm most familiar with. Does su

Re: Is there a 'plain vanilla Debian' version for RaspberryPi-5?

2025-09-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Sep 9, 2025 at 8:46 AM BST, Rick Thomas wrote: The RaspberryPI-5 now comes with enough RAM to make it a reasonable choice for a desktop personal computer. It comes with a version of Raspbian OS that works quite well. However, I would prefer to have a plain-vanilla Debian OS, because

Re: Is there a 'plain vanilla Debian' version for RaspberryPi-5?

2025-09-09 Thread Anssi Saari
"Rick Thomas" writes: > The RaspberryPI-5 now comes with enough RAM to make it a reasonable > choice for a desktop personal computer. It comes with a version of > Raspbian OS that works quite well. However, I would prefer to have a > plain-vanilla Debian OS, becaus

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-08 Thread Lee
ill run on other desktops as well. >> > Discover is also handy when you want even more good free stuff but are not >> > sure what the package names are. >> >> I found this >> https://apps.kde.org/discover/ >> which looks interesting but how do I get it insta

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/09/2025 03:36, Frank McCormick wrote: On 9/6/25 8:36 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: According to APT all gvfs packages are installed On 9/5/25 11:15 PM, Max Nikulin wrote:  >Next step is  busctl  to see if org.gtk.vfs.Daemon is there. I see no org.gtk.vfs.Daemon in that output or the

Re: Debian 13.0.0 Graphical Installer Glitches

2025-09-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:18:11 -0500 CHRIS M wrote: > I am just curious if this message made it through to the list or not? Please don't do this. It wastes a lot of peoples' time. Instead, check the list's archives. You can find that by examining the header "List-URL:" in any email from the list.

Fwd: Debian 13.0.0 Graphical Installer Glitches

2025-09-07 Thread CHRIS M
I am just curious if this message made it through to the list or not? Thanks, Chris ch...@cwm030.com Debian 13.0.0 -- Plasma Desktop Forwarded Message Subject:Debian 13.0.0 Graphical Installer Glitches Resent-Date:Sat, 6 Sep 2025 20:11:27 + (UTC) Resent

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 11:16:09AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:00 AM, Andy Smith > wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > > wrote: > > > You mean Debian doesn&#x

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-07 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
t; > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update? > > > > > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default d

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 05 Sep 07:03 -0500, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > There are so many different desktop environments and so many choices. Indeed, which is a good thing. Not everyone works or thinks the same. > Looks like I need to experiment with everyone of them. Maybe. Most are going to f

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-07 Thread Christoph Biedl
Haddad, Serge wrote... > Could you please clarify whether armel will be supported during future > upgrades from Trixie to Forky (and even Duke)? Short answer: There will not be such a support. So, as of today, Debian 14 ("trixie") will be the last release to support armel, with

Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-07 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 07:30:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 08:58:02PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > > > Is Debian XTERN still available? > > I nearly mis-read that as "xterm". What is "XTERN"? > The subject line has

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-07 Thread Greg
On 2025-09-05, Christoph Biedl wrote: > > Andrea Pappacoda wrote... > >> On Fri Sep 5, 2025 at 3:50 PM CEST, Christoph Biedl wrote: >> > [...] >> > So, as of today, Debian 14 ("trixie") will be the last release to >> > support armel >> &g

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-07 Thread Lee
gt; My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user. > > > > > > this one at least made it to my inbox > > > > > - Forwarded message from David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk - > > > > > > Date: Sun, 31 Au

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-09-05 12:20, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > If I want XFCE desktop environment, I need to do a lot with the terminal? No. Almost everything about XFCE is configurable through

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-07 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
ge names are. > > I found this > https://apps.kde.org/discover/ > which looks interesting but how do I get it installed? It looks like > my only option is to enable snaps??? > https://snapcraft.io/install/plasma-discover/debian > Just run 'sudo apt install plasma

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-07 Thread Frank McCormick
On 9/6/25 10:10 PM, David wrote: On Sat, 6 Sept 2025 at 20:37, Frank McCormick wrote: On 9/6/25 8:36 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: [...] This problem only started about a week ago. Solved this today by using a rather big hammer. I purged all GVFS packages and that has solved this particul

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2025 03:43, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 3:30 PM Frank McCormick wrote: Specifically rox-filer takes upwards of 30 seconds to display. (ROX-Filer:8578): GVFS-WARNING **: 12:45:56.924: Error creating proxy: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gtk.vfs.Dae

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-07 Thread Lee
ing but how do I get it installed? It looks like my only option is to enable snaps??? https://snapcraft.io/install/plasma-discover/debian Thanks Lee

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-06 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:00 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update? > > > It is dependent on t

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-06 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 05 September 2025 10:21:42 am Greg wrote: > On 2025-09-05, Christoph Biedl wrote: > > > > Andrea Pappacoda wrote... > > > >> On Fri Sep 5, 2025 at 3:50 PM CEST, Christoph Biedl wrote: > >> > [...] > >> > So, as of today, Debian 14

Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-06 Thread Haddad, Serge
Dear Debian Team, I hope you're doing well. We came across this note<https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.html#last-release-for-armel:~:text=trixie%20will%20be%20the%20last%20release%20for%20the%20armel%20architecture.%20Debian%20recommends%2C%20where%20pos

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-06 Thread David
On Sat, 6 Sept 2025 at 20:37, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 9/6/25 8:36 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: [...] > > This problem only started about a week ago. > Solved this today by using a rather big hammer. I purged all GVFS > packages and that has solved this particular problem. GVFS is basically > a

Debian 13.0.0 Graphical Installer Glitches

2025-09-06 Thread CHRIS M
Hi, I just installed Debian 13.0.0 Yesterday, and I used the graphical installer I just wanted to report the buggyness of the installer: For instance: I told the graphical installer to create a 880 GiB BTRFS partition after I clicked DONE WITH THIS PARTITION That 880 was changed to over 900

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 9/6/25 8:36 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: //snip//> On 9/5/25 11:15 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: sudo journalctl -b --priority=warning I am no expert, but I don't see  any errors in there that would seem to relate to the problem According to APT  all gvfs packages are installed >Next

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:59:07 -0400 Lee wrote: Hello Lee, >which looks interesting but how do I get it installed? It looks like >my only option is to enable snaps??? look for plasma-discover in your preferred installer. You can also (optionally) install back-ends that handle flatpak and snap p

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 9/5/25 11:15 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: sudo journalctl -b --priority=warning Sep 06 06:35:38 franklin kernel: core: CPUID marked event: 'bus cycles' unavailable Sep 06 06:35:38 franklin kernel: MDS CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible. See https://www.kernel.org> Sep 06 06:35:38

Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-06 Thread Marco Moock
On 06.09.2025 06:20 Uhr John Conover wrote: > Is Debian XTERN still available? Debian ships xterm in its repository. I do not know about a plan to remove it. -- kind regards Marco Send spam to 1757132401mu...@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 05 Sep 2025 21:33:47 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: > On 2025-09-05 12:20, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:54 AM, Dan Ritter > > wrote: > > > >> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >> > >> > If I want XFCE desktop environment, I need to

Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 08:58:02PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Is Debian XTERN still available? I nearly mis-read that as "xterm". What is "XTERN"? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Debian XTERM

2025-09-05 Thread John Conover
Is Debian XTERN still available? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]

2025-09-05 Thread Joe
n't want them being applied until after I review them. > > Wouldn't it be very time consuming to review every single update > before applying them? > Shouldn't be, if you are running Debian stable. Stable is one of the main server operating systems, and it is never wi

Re: Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 3:30 PM Frank McCormick wrote: > > I have been running testing for a while just started this week. > Specifically rox-filer takes upwards of 30 seconds to display. > When I run it from a terminal I get this error message after it starts. > > (ROX-Filer:8578): GVFS-WARNING

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-05 Thread Stephan Seitz
Am Fr, Sep 05, 2025 at 12:57:09 -0400 schrieb Roy J. Tellason, Sr.: On Friday 05 September 2025 10:21:42 am Greg wrote: Sometimes there is no 13th floor for superstitious reasons. The apartment building where I grew up had the apartments numbered 1-12, then "12A", then 14... Suse/SLES jump

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2025-09-05 at 15:50 +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Haddad, Serge wrote... > > > Could you please clarify whether armel will be supported during future > > upgrades from Trixie to Forky (and even Duke)? > > Short answer: There will not be such a support. > &

Very long startup time for an application in Debian testing

2025-09-05 Thread Frank McCormick
the system: Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux forky/sid Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 5536E2F v: ThinkCentre M90p serial: Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: BIOS: LENOVO v: 5JKT47AUS date: 07/13/2010 CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 660 bits: 64 ty

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-05 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
; Also required is something that tells you there are software updates > > > you should install. Maybe there's already a package that does that - > > > I don't know. I ended up writing my own script. > > > > > > Regards > > > Lee > > > &g

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-05 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > If I want XFCE desktop environment, I need to do a lot with the terminal? > > > No. Almost everything about XFCE is configurable through its > control panel / settings manager. > > -dsr-

graphite on Debian 12

2025-09-05 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi all, I have updated some system from Debian 10 recently. That system mainly hosts a graphite instance used to store some metrics collected from several sources. Set up originally with Debian 10, and not optimized for anything at all, it got an update first to Debian 10, following the

Re: Inquiry about armel support for Debian upgrades post-Trixie

2025-09-05 Thread Andrea Pappacoda
On Fri Sep 5, 2025 at 3:50 PM CEST, Christoph Biedl wrote: [...] So, as of today, Debian 14 ("trixie") will be the last release to support armel [...] Just for clarity: Debian "trixie" is number 13, not 14.

Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments

2025-09-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 10:00 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming < teo.en.m...@protonmail.com> wrote: > [...] > > There are so many different desktop environments and so many choices. > > Looks like I need to experiment with everyone of them. > Also see

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