Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:20:34PM -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > What systemd dependencies? :-) Thanks for reminding us that Debian is (more or less) viable without systemd (I try to keep my daily driver that way, too). But the original poster has another, valid concern. I think the best illustr

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:29:41AM -0400, Lee wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:44 AM tomas wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > On 12/4/25 13:24, tomas wrote: > > > > So, share your wisdom with u

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > Jumping into your interesting ssh vs VPN discussion: [...] Thanks for all those interesting details. To sum up, I'd concur with Andy in one point: *if* you are running a VPN anyway, it's better to hide you SSH behind th

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 12/4/25 13:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > So, share your wisdom with us: what makes ssh less secure than > > "a VPN"? > > > It's quite simple. If you have a VPN exposed to the internet and an ssh > service then you have two a

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 07:59:40PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:12:14PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot > > of library injections into sshd, much more than the stock OpenBSD ssh. [...] > > Wha

Re: map mainboard sata connector to device name

2025-04-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 11:32:31AM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > Hello, > > i want to map the sata hardware connections to fixed device names. This be > done even the hdd on the cable is changed. > > So - when i connect a hdd to sata port 4 i want to get (for example) /dev/sdd > created even /dev/

Re: Admin Root user [not set to default]

2025-04-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 09:34:08AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > Disabling root logins by default is especially important when a > network attacker can use the login, like via SSH. To achieve this... > The network attacker > is usually yo

Re: map mainboard sata connector to device name

2025-04-09 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 01:41:21PM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > Hello, > > Am Mittwoch, 9. April 2025, 11:35:27 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 11:32:31AM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > i want to map the sata hardware connections to fixed device name

Re: Fw: Re: Can you help me run Box64 on my Raspberry Pi 5?

2025-04-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 02:37:25PM +, Matt Timpson wrote: > Hello, > > Dan told me to send this to the mailing list instead of individual people. > This command worked: > > sudo apt install ./scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb > > However, I still need to find the executable and run it. I thin

Re: Instalación

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:14:15PM +0100, Julio Gil Garcia wrote: > Buenas tardes, me llamo Julio: ¡Hola, Julio! Primero: esta lista es en inglés: la mayoría de la gente aquí no podrá ayudarte. Si prefieres ccomunicar en castellano, hay una lista sobre Debian en este lenguaje: debian-user-span

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [SNIP] > > > > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > > the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). > > > > I don't understand the

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:41:55AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-26): > > I was once sitting at a $(DAYJOB) where they blocked everything but > > 443 (and 80). I tunneled ssh over socat (with TLS, so that the handshake > > didn't look suspect, in case their firewall sn

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 02:04:45PM +0800, An Liu wrote: > AFAIK, > > Exporting a nfs mounted location is possible via nfs-ganesha I have no experience with this one. Thanks for reminding me :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Web server access

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
her I use HTTP/1.0 or HTTP/1.1. > > Does it make a difference if you send CRLF instead of LF, as Tomas > mentioned? For that, you would need to hit ctrl-enter and see ^M in the > terminal, each time before you hit enter. To be fair, I said that most web servers are lenient. The RF

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:55:11PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. > > > > I agree. > > If I understand what people want to accomplish by using command-line > > options, I would likely have gone to System->Log Out ... and the

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re:Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:17:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/3/25 09:29, Greg wrote: > > On 2025-04-03, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > That's what you want: as the address is in the 127.0.0.0 network, > > > > pinging it will ping itself, and it gets a reply. It doesn't > > > > require you

Re: Web server access

2025-04-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 11:04:17AM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > GET index.html should be: GET index.html HTTP/1.0 (Strictly speaking you should close off with twice , but most web servers are tolerant if you just send two ) Not sending a HTTP version in your request /is/ a bad r

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 12:25:36PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/1/25 08:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 01:36:21PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > > On 2025-04-01 13:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 12:42:46PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > > > >

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who: Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 12:42:46PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: [...] > the spaces look wrong to me If you mean those: > 192.168.71.122 bpi51e5p.coyote.den bpi51 e5p #3dprinter ^^^ > ... > 192.168.71.121 mkspi.coyote.denmkspi xmax3 # 3dpri

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who: Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 01:36:21PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-04-01 13:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 12:42:46PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > the spaces look wrong to me > > > > If you mean those: > > > > > 192.168.71.122 bpi51e5p.coyote.den

Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

2025-03-31 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > The dns problem is separate I guess, but does bring up my other pet peeve. > That is that no one at debian considers the effect on dns to those of us who > have been using hosts files for local dns since back in the late 90's 

Re: Spurious emails from somewhere in "Debian hierarchy"

2025-03-30 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 05:59:09AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I'm evidently have not conveyed the import of what I have termed "spurious". > It is *NOT* the same as saying something is spam. No, Richard. The issue is that you point to a problem here and don't give people willing to hel

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:55:33AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). > > "sudo -i" is meant to approximate the behavior of "su -". Before buster, > nobody w

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 01:38:55PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-25, wrote: [...] > > Grumpy today? > > Mildly irascible, let's say. Happens to me sometimes, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: VPN over TLS (was: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?)

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 10:16:19AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I was once sitting at a $(DAYJOB) where they blocked everything but > > 443 (and 80). I tunneled ssh over socat (with TLS, so that the handshake > > didn't look suspect, in case their firewall sniffed that). > > Reminds me: I have

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 04:19:37PM +0300, J wrote: > > > > > work with* root?* I will try to test. > > > > I fully expect it to, yes. > > > > Oh, yes, it works. I just had to use *sudo su* and not not I think you never need "sudo su". "sudo -i" and "sudo -s" will do your bidding, depending on you

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:15:03PM +0300, J wrote: > > In my opinion, "sudo -i" might be added to the wiki articles. I would > > prefer to see a warning concerning compound shell commands in *sudo* docs. > > > > J, my impressions is that you read some docs strongly suggesting to > > prefix every co

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:28:40AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: [...] > > My bet was that 443 is always open because otherwise mid- and hi- > > level mgmt would be on top of the poor admins because they couldn't > > go to their share trading casinos: I won :) > > Admins would also have problems to

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:58:27PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: [...] > It is not that SSH is less secure, it is that crackers attempt to brute > force SSH servers [...] You still use passwords? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 05:21:53AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 25/3/25 23:22, Jan Claeys wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have on

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:25:01AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/03/2025 19:47, J wrote: > > Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " > > so it is assumed that users should run > > > > $ sudo -i > > > > sudo *SH -c '...' -* as mentioned above. But it is not

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:23:58AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 26/3/25 06:48, Jan Claeys wrote: > > FWIW: at that rate it takes millions of years to guess an even halfway > > semi-secure 8-character password, let alone the really secure longer > > one you_should_ be using. > > It's not the

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 05:10:40PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-25, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> I was able to do what you're asking by using the CTRL key. > > [...] > >> If that doesn't work at all on any given webpage, it will likely have > >> something to do with how the webmaster coded the page.

Re: site-to-site VPN with credential prompts?

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 04:22:10PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Mon, 2025-03-24 at 12:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > I should mention that having an internet facing ssh service is > > usually a very bad idea. The 'better' approach is to have only a VPN > > exposed and use heavy security on tha

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 07:07:16AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > Use of for discontinuous selection seems pretty much ubiquitous. > > is usually associated with continuous selection. > > Only in Microsoft Windows, or in GUI applicati

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:55:44AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 09:49:37 +0100 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >since there is no "standard" way to express a "multiple" or > >"discontinuous" selection in the underlying windows system (it's > > Use of for discontinuo

Re: selecting text with mouse

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 08:11:14AM +, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-03-25 03:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 02:25 +, mick.crane wrote: > > > xfce4 > > > In things that display text you can drag the mouse over to select > > > blocks > > > of text. > > > Is there some way

Re: Spurious emails from somewhere in "Debian hierarchy"

2025-03-24 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 09:16:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/24/25 8:30 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 08:24:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > "List-Id" is not an option in setting up filters in SeaMonkey. > > > > [...] > > > > This wou

Re: Spurious emails from somewhere in "Debian hierarchy"

2025-03-24 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 08:24:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > "List-Id" is not an option in setting up filters in SeaMonkey. [...] This would make that MUA practically useless (most of them are, mind you). But I think they are better than this. Try that: http://kb.mozillazine.org/M

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-03-23 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 02:53:51PM -0400, Eben King wrote: > I have this machine "alexandria". It mounts a directory from the nas > via NFS. When I export a parent directory on alexandria, the mount > point appears empty, even though you can ssh to it and see everything > there that should be. H

Re: laptop options

2025-03-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 08:37:58AM +0100, lina wrote: > Dear all, > > Which laptop option is friendly with Debian, > The purpose is related to work, not game. > > Mainly for computation, R and some bioinformatic analysis, > > Ideally at least > 16 cores, decent memory. Disclaimer: my go-to lapt

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-03-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:09:48PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-20): > > Sorry if that came across as rude. > > Do not be: not reading before replying at least to see if what one is > about to reply has already been addressed and therefore wasting > everybody's time

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-03-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 05:59:34PM +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > wrote: [...] > > Besides, we already know NFS can do that (with caveats). I wonder > > whether people read the other postings in the threads they reply > > to :) > > I certainly don't always read all the posts in a lo

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-03-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 01:32:27PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (HE12025-03-20): > > It's not a workaround. It's expected behaviour. You told the NAS to > > share some of its contents with alexandria. That's what it's doing. Why > > would you expect it to respond to a r

Re: recursively share NFS

2025-03-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 01:29:39AM -0400, Eben King wrote: > > > On 3/19/25 16:19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 02:53:51PM -0400, Eben King wrote: > > > I have this machine "alexandria". It mounts a directory from the nas > > > via NFS. When I export a parent directory on

Re: graphics card in debian

2025-03-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 03:28:06PM -, Greg wrote: [...] > I'm after nothing. Fine. Then we can consider the case resolved? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: graphics card in debian

2025-03-19 Thread tomas
ou can get the model. For the floating-point > computing capability of the graphics card, I wouldn't know. > Does root with the "v" flag provide that info? I have no idea what you are after, but serve yourself (caveat: lowly hardware around here, so better try for yourself): t

Re: graphics card in debian

2025-03-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 02:42:52PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-19, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 19/3/25 11:04, tim wade wrote: > >> > >> How can I check the graphics card model of my computer and how can I > >> test the floating-point computing capability of the graphics card? > > > > > >

[slowly OT, was: Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?]

2025-03-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 01:33:08PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-15, Chris Green wrote: [...] > > Not yet, I'm in the UK and the boat is in France, I'll be back there > > in a couple weeks. :-) > > That's the dream, man, to leisurely navigate those French canals in the > spring or summer. Goo

Re: increment backup of home dir

2025-03-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 07:51:24AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Git *does* preserve permissions [1]. For the ownerships (and more accurate > > mtime, atime and ctime) cf. etckeeper. > > > Git only tracks the execute bit. And because it always writ

Re: increment backup of home dir

2025-03-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 08:36:48PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 01:18:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > On 3/15/25 12:50, Tim Woodall wrote: > > > git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this > > > may not be relevant to your usecase,

Re: increment backup of home dir

2025-03-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 07:50:27PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:07:53PM +0800, tim wade wrote: > > > I plan to make increment backup for my home dir. > > > It's currently in the size of 1xx GB. > > > > I use git. I kee

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:56:47AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:45:32 +0100 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > {snipped} > > Okay, fair enough. I'm new to apt-file so haven't fully absorbed al

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 04:29:56PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, wrote: > > > > I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > > that job, too (I was always wondering to find my apt-file database > > up to date and suspected some well-meaning cron job, but that see

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 09:19:12AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:59:49 +0200 > Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Hello Henrik, > > >> Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? > >Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct? > > apt-*file* update

Re: kdevtmpfsi question

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 05:33:41PM +0800, tim wade wrote: > 18817 user 20 0 3075708 2.3g 0 S 392.7 29.6 84:30.28 > kdevtmpfsi > > As you see above (top output), kdevtmpfsi consumes 2.3g Ram and a lot of CPU > (392%). > What's it then? By all means, investigate further. But a fi

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 02:13:05AM +, Modaresi Soft Hard wrote: > We created several packages in > https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:celenity (OBS) Apt-file relies on the Contents file, which your repository must provide (possibly you have to tell your instance of apt-file where

Re: Kernel only seeing 2TB of an 8TB disk

2025-03-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 11:40:29AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-11): > > It seems that the combination of MBR partition table and 512 byte blocks > > limits you to partition sizes (and offsets) of roughly 2T, so it might > > be this what's biting you: > > Highly doub

Re: Kernel only seeing 2TB of an 8TB disk

2025-03-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 08:13:16PM +1300, Alex King wrote: > Hi, hi > I've installed a large disk in a new machine and loaded Debian (bookworm) on > it, but it's showing as limited to 2TB when the disk should be larger. > > How can I get Debian to use the full 8TB on this disk? It seems that th

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-09 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 09:26:07AM -0400, Eben King wrote: > > > On 3/2/25 14:35, David Christensen wrote: [...] > > AIUI SMR does not work well for OS [...] > ?MR=Shielded / Conventional Magnetic Recording? How do I tell a priori > which drives are SMR and which are CMR? Shingled magnetic r

Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable

2025-03-08 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:41:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > My system is Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > It used to be that clicking on a PDF opened it with Atril. > I don't know what *I DID*, but it now opens with L3afpad. > > I assumed that Edit Preferences was the place to go. > But und

Re: Apache2 permissions?

2025-03-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 02:43:01PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:10:48AM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > I have two computers, both running Debian 12.5 with kernel 6.1.0-31- > > amd64 > >  > > Both are running Apache/2.4.62 (Debian), Server built: 2024-10- > > 04T15:21:08 > > 

Re: Apache2 permissions?

2025-03-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:10:48AM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > I have two computers, both running Debian 12.5 with kernel 6.1.0-31- > amd64 > > Both are running Apache/2.4.62 (Debian), Server built: 2024-10- > 04T15:21:08 > > Both machines show one "/usr/sbin/apache2 -k start" process owned by > r

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > "Password" boxes have been asterisks for 25 or 30 years by now; not sure > what you're really going on about there .. OP's still right that this is idiotic security theater most of the time. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descr

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:22:15PM +0100, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to > ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Note

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that > > offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year > > cycle. This would be particularly beneficial for educational > > institutions, where a b

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:47:11PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: [...] > So in order to do this you need to stay subscribed (to eventually send mail), ...as has been stated elsewhere, you don't need to be subscribed to send mail to debian-user@ Which is pretty heroic these days, so I commend t

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Leandro Noferini wrote: > Ciao a tutt*, > > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? Asking for help to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org just lists "help", "subscribe" and "unsu

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:05:29PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > > That is a terrible idea. > > Not if done right. > > “Not if done right” has been said of all terrible ideas in the history > of terrible ideas. Well, yes. I tried to sketch what I mean by "do

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:48:18AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Choose your version string wisely. This is very important. To reiterate: change the version string if you change things. Not doing so is indeed a terrible idea :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:43:49AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) > > and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build > > dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:33:44AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): > > To add to all those very good points: if you need newer software (besides > > the security updates, which Debian is extremely good at providin in a > > timely fashion, BTW), there are the backpor

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:57:10AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > > Dear Debian Developers, > > > > Hi, [...] > As it is, the creation of a major stable release takes a long time. > Once released, there's a two year cycl

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12 uptodateamd64system?

2025-03-02 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 10:01:17AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] I lost track, with all those side tracks with ff and vpns and things, but my tentative diagnosis is that prusa broke your Debian. But then that's OK because you told it to do so. Not nice of them, no. Cheers -- t signature.a

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12 uptodate amd64system?

2025-03-02 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 02:11:53AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/2/25 01:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 04:42:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > flathub.flatpakrepo > > Nowhere. > > And this is to indicate that flatpaks will not be accepted by debian? What do you m

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12 uptodate amd64 system?

2025-03-01 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 04:42:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > flathub.flatpakrepo Nowhere. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-02-28 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:05:01PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > I don't believe that this applies to copies of Firefox installed from > the Debian archive. I'm convinced that they'll try to weasel themselves through. Given the hyperventilation many states show these days with "AI" (they seem to hav

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-02-28 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: > Hello to all. > > I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an > all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for > is something that is more suited for a small to medium busines

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-21 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 03:59:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 21 Feb 2025 at 21:20:45 (+), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: [...] > > > I get: > > > > > > Access Denied > > > You don't have permission to access > > > "http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/thrifty-food-plan-2006"; on this se

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-21 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 09:12:49AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri Feb 21, 2025 at 1:40 AM GMT, Tom Dial wrote: > > The straight, but blunt, answer here, I think, is to read the man pages > > for sudo and sudoers > > In principle I agree with this advice but the sudoers manpage is > notori

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 02:48:21PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/20/25 14:10, Marco Möller wrote: > > To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage > > which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think > > that each bit is in use after it was fille

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:07:47PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > But this is really all just noise. Use whatever MUA you like. That's my take, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 04:40:18PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2024-12-28, Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: > >> > > >> > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? > >> > > >> I simply use lynx to view 99% of HTML E-Mail and the odd one that > >> doesn't view well by tha

Re: libvirt / KVM in Intel i5-4590

2025-02-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 06:10:35PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Sorry for any inconvenience. Calling an LVM volume group kvm is > > a really stupid idea. > > > > This creates a > > /dev/kvm so kvm cannot work. > > Oh, that was clever! > > I recently started preferring `/dev/mapper/-` over th

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 07:18:23AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:06:53 +, Chris Green wrote: > > The specific thing that bit me when I installed epiphany was clicking > > on a web link in a terminal (xfce4-terminal) window. Instead of > > opening the link in the alrea

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 07:24:28AM +, Chris Green wrote: [...] > Er, but that's the whole problem!!! I installed epiphany (using apt) > and it **did** force all 'the other users' (including me) to use it. > You have described the problem in a nutshell! :-) Then, it seems that it is alternat

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 08:21:02PM +, Chris Green wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > songbird wrote: > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > It would be much easier if I could simply tell epiphany (or > > > > > another browser) **not** to try an

Re: -request

2025-02-10 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 07:04:49PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:31 PM wrote: > > > You don't need to tell that to the other 4999 subscribers :-) [...] > Ok, haughty. Please, don't take it personally :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: how to prevent evolution from archiving mails?

2025-02-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 10:35:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 07/02/2025 12:51, hw wrote: > > > > > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/evolution > [...] > > and I don't like forums. > > At least the discourse instance at discuss.python.org allows to reply > through email. I have not tried to

Re: Sorry for spamming the list

2025-02-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 02:44:56AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:55 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 01:39:33AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > That doesn't make sense. Usenet and NNTP is a different protocol than > > > mailing lists and vari

Re: Sorry for spamming the list

2025-02-06 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 01:39:33AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > That doesn't make sense. Usenet and NNTP is a different protocol than > mailing lists and various email protocols. Why would you expect > protocols to cross pollinate? Gateways. They live between protocols. In the concrete c

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:18:10AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the > > /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: > > - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EF

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 10:26:45PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/31/25 02:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, > > sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both. > ... > > Most of the time, the "normal" size is 30s to 4

Re: Zoom

2025-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 01:10:39AM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: [...] > I wholeheatedly agree in principle and in circumstances where one has some > amount of influence. Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both.

Re: Zoom

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:02:25PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/29/25 05:39, Gregory Forster wrote: > > Hi, I've been using Debian for about 3 months, still a newbie. I'm > > trying to get totally off of Windows.One program I'm not sure about is > > Zoom.If you go to their web site, they detec

Re: Installing a debian file

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:42:02PM +, Michael wrote: > The deb names may be unconventional but the executables worked (at least > v4.2.8 worked). They are IMHO wrong, since they quite probably will end up as *different packages* instead of as *different versions of a package*. If you just ins

Re: Installing a debian file

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:14:00PM +, Michael wrote: > Thanks very much for your help and suggestions. > > I am running Debian 12 on a desktop. > > My aim is to set up and use a TOTP authenticator app called Ente Auth. > > I ran, as root :- > > dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb [...]

Re: Installing a debian file

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 02:22:44PM +, Michael wrote: > I installed a debian file (db1'say) using dpkg -i and an executable file > (ex1 say) was created. > > Later another debian file (db2) was installed, overwriting the executable > ex1. This shouldn't happen in a correctly built Debian packa

Re: Can a Bash function be named "w3m" ?

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 08:18:26AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 14:10:33 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Try prefixing the thing with the builtin `function': > > > > function w3m() ... > > That would still leave the alias in place, though. So, both the alias > and t

Re: Can a Bash function be named "w3m" ?

2025-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 08:13:15AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 13:59:37 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > alias w3m='/usr/bin/w3m -no-cookie -o auto-image=TRUE ' > > > w3m() { /usr/bin/w3m -no-cookie -o auto-image=TRUE $@ ; } > > > > and received the error message > > > >

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