u very much for your time
If you do value our time, maybe you could look back at the replies you
got last time you asked this exact same question, two days ago.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/09/msg00357.html
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-scale PCIe over
fibre. That much works today, though I have never personally seen it.
https://kernel.org/doc/html/latest/driver-api/cxl/
At last we finally can, "just download more RAM" (after spending vast
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uration ${MDADM_CHECK_DURATION}
where MDADM_CHECK_DURATION is by default only 6 hours, meaning that
after 6 hours it will pause. The other timer and service pair,
mdcheck_continue, resumes these.
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umber of days between previous releases and draw
some conclusions:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases#Release_statisticso
from which they guess, "about two years after the last one".
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 09:08:38PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> That is what Robert was talking about. That is the basis of my reply
> to Robert.
Apologies, that should of course be Roberto!
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Hi,
On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 09:24:48PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 07:46:13PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 09:05:09PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > > I'd hope th
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 07:46:13PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2025 at 09:05:09PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > I'd hope that no Debian Developer wants to get involved with the
> > XLibre community.
> >
> >
> > https:/
e community.
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/XLibreIsExplicitlyPolitical
But maybe one will pop up.
Maybe Wayback and Xwayland is a better way to go for those unable to
stop using X11.
https://ariadne.space/2025/07/07/two-weeks-of-wayback.html
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On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 03:54:49PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote:
> On 11/09/25 at 21:53, Andy Smith wrote:
> > # systemctl --list-timers mdcheck_start.timer
> >
> > where you will see that its next trigger is still the Sunday.
>
> Here "--list-timers"
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:00:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2025-09-10 at 15:55, Andy Smith wrote:
> > It's done by systemd timers now.
>
> Which does leave those of us who don't use systemd out in the cold.
> Sadly, this is (IIRC from when I saw something
wise as long as
you know where the filesystem starts and ends you can do the maths and
use a debugfs-like tool to answer the question.
I needed to do something like it once on a redundant system to work out
what was causing some strange behaviour:
https://strugglers.net/~andy/mothballed-b
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 02:54:45PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-09-10, Andy Smith wrote:
> > If you have no redundancy (RAID, LVM mirror, btrfs, zfs, …) you may
> > have lost data.
>
> I thought we said earlier that redundancy wasn't a backup, and
> vice-versa,
e them.
If you do start doing it by cron again then you'll probably want to
disable the relevant system timers. It won't cause harm as the kernel
part of md will just refuse to start a check if one's already running,
but you may end up running checks twice.
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llocated sectors properly.
> which seems to indicate no problems.
The long self-test shows that the whole drive is currently readable. The
fact that the drive reported uncorrectable sectors is worrying. If you
don't have redundancy you may need to restore some files from backup. If
any more
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 11:13:29PM +0100, alain williams wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 09:50:04PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> > > Setting up gitweb (1:2.47.3-0+deb13u1) ...
> > > dpkg: error processing package gitweb (--configure):
> > > installed gitweb
installation script subprocess returned error
> exit status 1
You'd have to look in to why the post-install script failed. You should
check if there is a bug for it already and if not, report one.
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On Sun, Sep 07, 2025 at 12:35:26PM -, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On 07/09/2025 03:10, David wrote:
> > CAUTION: Upgrading stable Trixie systemd-networkd might break your network
>
> Is systemd-networkd the default on Debian?
No.
For the rest of your ill-informed rant, it was a nice day
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 11:16:09AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On Sunday, August 31st, 2025 at 2:00 AM, Andy Smith
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > wrote:
> > > You mean Debian doesn
Hello,
On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 09:58:57AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 12:36:15 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > "inxi" sounds like a terrible way to programmatically find your IP
> > address. I would most likely use the "ip" command and any
Hi,
"inxi" sounds like a terrible way to programmatically find your IP
address. I would most likely use the "ip" command and any of its
machine-readable output formats.
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On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 04:07:59PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Thursday 04 September 2025 07:40:16 am Andy Smith wrote:
> > Okay so there are some quite obscure things like flash storage not
> > being able to reliably hold data if left powered off for years.
>
&
to you.
What I would caution though is that if you don't understand why what you
have doesn't work for you or why you actually need something else, then
effort spent on changing may be wasted, aside from learnoing and
curiosity being a motivation by themselves.
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your
working practices are now decades out of date.
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¹ Okay so there are some quite obscure things like flash storage not
being able to reliably hold data if left powered off for years.
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e time to research when libcupsfilters2 v2.0.0-3+b2 was released it
seems unlikely it will be in January 2023.
There are other distributions that can address your apparent need for
rolling releases, but before exploring something like that it would be
good to understand if your concerns are well-founded.
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 12:18:46AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote:
> How do you dealwith such "secure BIOS" nonsense?
By avoiding abusive vendors [works also in other aspects of life].
Fortunately most free markets (with just a few sad exceptions) have a
range of vendors.
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snapshotting continues to allow only diffs within the backups for each
source to be stored, then it's less than double the capacity needed. And
again, as I said, capacity isn't so difficult.
So yeah in summary, probably don't even consider zfs dedup but
do consider zfs.
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 12:20:05PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-08-29, Andy Smith wrote:
> >
> > I have more than 20 years of experience using rsnpashot. For non-trivial
> > amounts of files I would not recommend rsnapshot or any other
> > rsync-based backup syste
l habit and quick thoughtless replies.
It's a hard problem. What do governments and corporations do? Unless
dealing with extremely motivated nerds, whatever you do probably has to
be web based.
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¹ A practice which I understand was not recommended, for exactly this
reason.
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package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in
Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy
reinventing it on their own.
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red your router to forward incoming port 22, but to the
>wrong internal IP address.
>
> I haven't knowingly changed anything on my router.
It is a good idea to check even so.
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mmend rsnapshot or any other
rsync-based backup system in 2025. "Non-trivial" is still a pretty large
amount though and rsnapshot does have the extremely desirable feature of
being very very simple, so could still be a solid choice.
borg and restic are actively developed and are IMHO good choices for most
people in 2025.
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ted
disk/partition copying tool, or just swallowing the whole dd.
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nstead of your ideas of how some unstated thing could be achieved by
way of "ISOs".
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raised there?
It would have helped to reply to that actual email or link to it in the
archive as above, as otherwise we're likely to go over the same ground
again.
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nubis.techaro.lol/
> [1] https://sources.debian.org/src/anubis/
You are correct that they're not the same software since the Techaro
Anubis didn't exist yet at the time of Debian wheezy. Given that they
aren't the same software, do you still care why the other Anubis was
removed fr
S. based LUGs which are still
> operating.
It seems I was thinking of North Virginia LUG:
https://novalug.org/
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as no employer was interested. I
remember a presentation by Wietse Venema (author of Postfix) at one, and
he signed my PGP key afterwards.
I only got around to cancelling my membership this year.
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the pub. I had to travel 90 minutes to get to that one so I
probably won't do so again any time soon.
What is your locality?
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?
I note you haven't signed your email so the people who don't read
headers have no idea who you are until I reply to you and quote your
name at the top. 😀
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u can also see there the duplication of subject line that you
introduced.
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ce, which got me out of a pinch. I believe this is a generic USB
network support in Linux so it's more about if you phone allows you to
do it at all rather than anything about the phone hardware.
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l humans how to reply. But I prepare to be disappointed
in software.
Either way, expecting the vast bulk of email users to be able to follow
such instructions seems like just a way to set oneself up for having a
thing to complain about these days.
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md.
> In case spamassassin needs restarting I restarted spamd.
> A queston: is it necessary to do so?
Yes it's necessary to restart spamd after changing its config. Assuming
you actually are using spamd. Also you would normally want to
o assistance from the toolchain that
Debian is built on, you are welcome to contribute. Have a read of this
thread to see any actual Debian Developers that have a stake say the
same thing:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/08/msg00124.html
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That forum post is old enough to
consume alcohol in the UK, and its suggestions make about as much sense as
someone who has done so all night.
Its advice is totally inappropriate for a modern Linux system unless in
very unusual circumstances.
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p is to not
mention either of these in fstab.
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of resources online which given a Thinkpad model number will
tell you all about how well it works with Linux (or not). Very easy to
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ot;old" or
"new" or "cheap" or "expensive". Problems crop up across all dimensions.
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¹ With knowledge of the layout of a web site it is possible to
statistically partially recreate a user's journey through the site
based on what their DNS queries are. Similarly by analysing other
traffic flow metadata like file size it can be guess
so hangs.
Did you really mean to say that ssh by hostname works but ssh by IP
address hangs, or was this a mistake and you meant that both forms of
ssh hang?
Either way, a dump of the output of "ssh -v" to whichever one fails
may help spot a problem.
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always
reinstall if you scre wit up anyway, I mean you already do have backups
right 😀). I think my way is fairly simple and I wouldn't hesitate to do
it.
As mentioned I also think you can stand to put off this work for quite
some time. My freshly installed trixie laptop from a week or so before
official release is using 97 MiB in /boot.
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s package
> be backported to trixie-backports. Please feel free to submit a
> wishlist bug as such.
Alternatively it can be installed from the upstream here, also by snap
or flatpak:
https://desktop.telegram.org/
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have any noticeable impact beyond how your system
normally works.
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).
>
> Or just leave it as it is now?
>
> Or do something else?
What actual problem are you experiencing?
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between the Debian 13 installer
and the Debian 13 installed kernel on first boot they re-ordered
themselves completely. Which was fine because Debian these days is
installed to cope with that sort of thing.
The various directories under /dev/disk/by-* will give you various kinds
of stabl
tforward. Disadvantage of leaving you with a
500M /boot but I think you'll push the problem quite far down the road
even if the recommendation is now 768M. Don't forget to grub-install
/dev/sda afterwards!
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ommended to start partitions 1 MiB into the disk.
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there's a problem with a package you will need to
identify the package and report a bug to its maintainer(s).
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
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ink that is generally good advice for
everyone. If done from inside such an environment then you could have
started from your GUI terminal and then when it crashed you could have
gone to a virtual console (e.g. ctrl-alt-f3 or whatever) and
re-attached to continue the upgrade process.
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ke installing bookworm, setting an explicit /tmp
mount and then doing a dist-upgrade to check it? Someone here probably
does have the time and desire to settle the matter. 😀
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difference.
Personally I wouldn't do any of this though because it's unlikely that
you will store enough in /tmp to start going into swap. That does then
leave the space unused which is a bit of a shame. Tricky to avoid when
the partitions are how they are. Volume management, it's really handy!
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s as used for authentication.
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ters to duplicate
extents, reducing streaming file read performance as a sequential read
has to move the read about across the disk. Obviously not much of a
factor for non-rotational media.
That's all that comes to mind.
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ther way. And also that way does
of course leave it up to you to actually satisfy the real requirements
some other way.
The wiki has an example:
https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/HackingDependencies
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> The optimum programmin
ives and then doing a complete reinstall.
I guess we could all go to OP's home, rip everything out and rebuild it
in our own desired way.
Surely if they are wanting to reinstall Debian they wouldn't need to ask
any of this and could just do it, UEFI boot and all, without needing to
be told to back up and restore?
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For those not familiar with the dpkg scripts, you can see it at:
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sudo.prerm
If you strongly disagree that this is reasonable then you're actually
asking for a change in the sudo packaging to remove that check…
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the disk?
If separate mount points are truly necessary then I recommend using some
form of volume management so that resizing later is easy.
> No idea what sdd is:
"lsblk -o +model,vendor" may give more idea, as may "smartctl -i
/dev/sdd".
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it seems we have rambled about a feature suggestion that is
already implemented. :)
I should remember that it's too easy to pointlessly speculate while
checking it out for myself is harder but more valuable.
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to a virtual serial
console. It's been about 15 years since I have bought a full rackmount
server with a physical 9 pin serial port. These things have virtual
serial ports exposed over Ethernet these days.
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password set that you
don't record somewhere also being questionable practice!)
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learn about the whole world of configuration management!
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 05:56:23PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> The general solution to this is
>
> 1. express your dependencies
>
> 2. use dangerous commands
carefully
and the general advice to me is to proof read emails better
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pendencies
2. use dangerous commands
There is only so far the distribution can go to protect you / guess your
desires, rest is your job as admin.
> who remembers the root password ?
A rapidly assembling mob of sudo refuseniks now heading in the
direction of this thread. They got su and know how to use it.
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:04:13PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> I was going to add that the default sshd installation does leave it
> open to brute-force password attacks.
sshd is not installed by default though.
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 05:29:38PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Andy Smith composed on 2025-07-28 15:13 (UTC):
>
> > I have a Debian 12 laptop with quite a small screen which is quite high
> > DPI — 13" diagonal with resolution 2880x1920.
> ...
>
> The only
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 01:33:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Andy Smith composed on 2025-07-29 13:34 (UTC):
> > I found a bit of time to tinker yesterday but unfortunately no matter
> > what I put with video= always led to no difference and a log line
> > saying:
>
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 11:58:55AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Andy Smith composed on 2025-07-28 15:35 (UTC):
>
> > The video= kernel command line looks promising and I will try this when
> > I've finished using my laptop for work today :)
>
> > It would he
in its native (2880x1920) resolution is the problem,
and I want it in something much smaller. What are the possible values of
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX?
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ht is held by the FSF. You'd really need to know
specific details about that specific project.
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Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 04:04:12PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote:
> > It really depends on what you're looking for.
>
> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions here.
>
> I use a search engine and u
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:56:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 7/28/25 10:52 AM, Andy Smith wrote:
> > I have never had an issue with LibreCalc's xls support. If an xls file
> > is so complicated that LibreOffice can't read/write it properly, I
> > suspe
e it properly, I
suspect you will find it unusable in anything but Microsoft software
since that is their proprietary format.
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hough if anyoen were able to confirm that I'm on the
right track with that.
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love it. There's even some
FOSS projects that use it as their main support venue. Baffling to me.
Is there something between all of those that you are looking for?
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; cat $p; done
DP-1: disconnected
DP-2: disconnected
DP-3: disconnected
DP-4: connected
eDP-1: connected
I've currently got an exteranl display attached by USB-C so I think that
might be DP-4 and my internal display would be eDP-1. So maybe I should
try:
video=eDP-1:1600x1200@119.82e
Anyone played with this sort of thing?
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ted user then the maintainers might be open to
such a split.
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:28:36PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Andy Smith (HE12025-07-27):
> > How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make the
> > move at some point.
>
> Speaking for myself (but agreeing with a few friends), I say I do n
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 09:39:03AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/kea/-/issues/245
>
> Bingo. Thank you.
How are you finding use of kea, in general? I too will have to make the
move at some point.
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¹ https://docs.rs/spreadsheet-ods/latest/spreadsheet_ods/
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 05:41:38PM +0200, rudu wrote:
> Le 26/07/2025 à 14:37, Andy Smith a écrit :
> > It looks okay. So guesses I have left are:
> >
> > a) r...@cegetel.net is not the actual address you are subscribed as. I
> > already advised to check the
best to contact
listmas...@debian.org and explain your difficulties. That should put you
in contact with a human volunteer who is able to manually unsubscribe
you.
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he first header is "Delivered-To:" and
> there
> is no header labeled "Envelope".
OK, sorry, that one was probably aded by my mail server. The actual
address delivered to shoud be in the headers somewhere near the top
though, at least in a Received: one.
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pe-To" header near the top. For
example, mine says:
Envelope-to: a...@strugglers.net
That's the address I am subscribed as, so you can find out yours that
way.
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to come.
I think David is suggesting that Poppler in Debian 12 is now three major
versions *of Poppler* behind.
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s deleted.
If there isn't a vitally important reason for deletion it will be
easier for everyone concerned to just leave it there.
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.
Although it is udisks2 and udev that are facilitating this, I thought it
only happened inside a desktop environment. Though your example of
/media/root/UUID suggests not. Anyway, some ideas for desktop
environments:
https://www.baeldung.com/linux/ubuntu-disable-automated-mounting
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