Re: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

On Thursday, 23-01-2025 at 14:57 George at Clug wrote: > On Thursday, 23-01-2025 at 04:25 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > Hello George, > > > >  >> Welcome to Wayland ! > > [...] > >  >> I mostly use XFCE with X11, for both Host and Guest > > > > :-D > > > >  >> I also found that "Resize to VM", do

Re: WebAuthn and non-JavaScript implementation

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:58:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > For the folks who like to use the web without JavaScript, you might > want to comment on this beg report from the WebAuthn working group: > . Thanks for the heads up! I won't touch Githu

Re: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

On Thursday, 23-01-2025 at 04:25 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hello George, > >  >> Welcome to Wayland ! > [...] >  >> I mostly use XFCE with X11, for both Host and Guest > > :-D > >  >> I also found that "Resize to VM", does not work either, please test > and let me know if you find this too. > >

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On 22/01/2025 20:30, Frank Guthausen wrote: On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:42:20 +0100 wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 12:34:20PM +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: [...] DoH can circumvent manipulation by the ISP [...] It just replaces one bully by another bully. I won't bet on Google not manipulating i

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correc

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Darac Marjal (12025-01-22): > What about Mediawiki? Because AFAIK it is a nefarious monster with huge resource consumption and fragile dependencies. Also, the HTML it produces is atrocious. > It doesn't use Git for versioning, So no bonus points either. > 3. Extensible - T

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:12, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in  linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 curr

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correctly, that the rt-kernels like the one you ment

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:23, didier gaumet a écrit : [...) DAW usage and I don not think he was not using backports) [...) I did not take time to read myself before posting, sorry: "I do not think he was using backports" is more correct ;-)

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 21:48, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 01:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's not yet clear to me whether you're trying to use a backported kernel because you *need* it, or because it has a higher number and you think higher numbers are better. I would like to optimize my laptop f

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 currently already having appeared in the ex

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 22:32, Michael Stone wrote: I think the problem here is a misunderstanding of how backports work: they're not "the latest kernel", they're "the latest kernel from debian testing". You're not going to see a kernel in backports that's not going to be in trixie until after the trixie re

WebAuthn and non-JavaScript implementation

For the folks who like to use the web without JavaScript, you might want to comment on this beg report from the WebAuthn working group: . According to comment : the biggest challe

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

On 22/01/2025 16:43, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. I found gitit, that looks interesting, but I have not

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Chris Green (12025-01-22): > Yes to your last comment, while the content of the .rst file is pure > RestructuredText of course the Dokuwiki editor when you edit a page > will still be the Dokuwiki editor. I assume that's what you mean by > "the buttons still produce custom syntax.". Yes, that is

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:24PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: Well, I thought that some easy receipt would pop up as an answer to my question on how to achieve such automatic upgrades. As this did not happen I conclude that the wished procedure is not so common and not readily worked out by now

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 01:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's not yet clear to me whether you're trying to use a backported kernel because you *need* it, or because it has a higher number and you think higher numbers are better. I would like to optimize my laptop for creative audio usage (tracking, running dig

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Nicolas George wrote: > Chris Green (12025-01-22): > > I wrote a RestructuredText plugin for Dokuwiki that means (not > > surprisingly!) that you can use RestructuredText markup in Dokuwiki. > > You can even simply name a text file with a .rst suffix and the plugin > > will recognise it and treat

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

Geert Stappers (12025-01-22): > Wiki: Present HTML to reader, as for 99% of Wikipedia.org visitors. > > I left out that "Wiki" also means "allow edit through webbrowser". > > "SSG" was suggested in response to the '> > > Any suggestions?' > > The '> > So webbrowser in one window' for "Preview",

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 08:00:26PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Geert Stappers (12025-01-22): > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > ... Wiki ... > > > ... markdown ... > > > ... git ... > > > Any suggestions? > > > > SSG, Static Site Generators. Example given: Zola ( https:

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Chris Green (12025-01-22): > I wrote a RestructuredText plugin for Dokuwiki that means (not > surprisingly!) that you can use RestructuredText markup in Dokuwiki. > You can even simply name a text file with a .rst suffix and the plugin > will recognise it and treat the whole file as RestructuredTex

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

Geert Stappers (12025-01-22): > SSG, Static Site Generators. Example given: Zola ( https://getzola.org ). > > For the more wiki experience `zola serve` > ( https://www.getzola.org/documentation/getting-started/cli-usage/ ) > So webbrowser in one window and your favorite text editor in another wind

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Dan Ritter (12025-01-22): > Would the dokuwiki plugin to accept Markdown work for you? Sorry, I wanted to say it in my first mail but forgot before hitting the :wq keys. Tried one, does not work. Read the docs, the other are worse. The plugins slap Markdown on top of the DokuWiki syntax, but th

Re: EFI partition - some questions

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:06:34 +0100 Hans wrote: > > "It shows" ??? What shows? How? > > See: > > root@protheus3:~# ls -la /boot/efi/ > insgesamt 7 > drwx-- 4 root root 1024 1. Jan 1970 . > drwxrwxrwx 5 root root 4096 19. Jan 20:28 .. > drwx-- 5 root root 1024 18. Jan 12:10 EFI > d

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Chris Green wrote: > Does this help any? RestructuredText is more like MarkDown than > Dokuwiki markup is, I think. > > It was a very simple plugin to write, you might find it easy to copy > and change to work with MarkDown. Is there a simple single executable > program to convert MarkDown to

Re: EFI partition - some questions

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:44:25 -0500 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > Lastly, there's that efibootmgr package. I installed it while battling > my past fails but never used it. I've seen it mentioned here at > Debian- User so someone here likely knows if and/or how it might help > somehow. > > You pr

Re: EFI partition - some questions

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:57 AM Hans wrote: > > > I am using UEFI now for the first time. Everything is worḱing fine, but I do > not understand everything. Please allow me to ask: > > 1. In /etc/fstab there is my entry > > UUID=5ABD-D634 /boot/efi vfatumask=0077 0 1 > > and

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. > > I found gitit, that looks interesting, but I have not found a

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 8:52 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 13:29:41 +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > > ssh but not to others (to which

Re: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

Hello George, >> Welcome to Wayland ! [...] >> I mostly use XFCE with X11, for both Host and Guest :-D >> I also found that "Resize to VM", does not work either, please test and let me know if you find this too. I don't know even how it should work, so I guess I don't need it. I've got the g

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. Would the dokuwiki plugin to accept Markdown work for you? -dsr-

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 05:43:44PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. > > I found gitit, that l

[SOLVED] EFI partition - some questions

Hi folks, rethinking and some checks showed me the solution. In /etc I found a file "fstab.boot.readonly" with the same content as fstab. I suppose, this file was also read during boot and as there was an entry for efi missing, it might create one. Not sure about it! Moving any fstab.* to ano

Re: EFI partition - some questions

Hi Charles, > So far, so good. However, please show us the complete command and > output by copy and paste. E.g.: > > root@peregrine:~# grep efi /etc/fstab > # /boot/efi was on /dev/nvme0n1p1 during installation > UUID=91AE-3A24 /boot/efi vfatumask=0077 0 1 > root@peregrine:~

DokuWiki but in Markdown

Hi. Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. I found gitit, that looks interesting, but I have not found a public sandbox on the web to see the

Re: EFI partition - some questions

Hans wrote: > > See, what I mean? /dev/nvme0n1p1 is mounted twice! But df does not show it! > That looks strange for me. This isn't strange, this is intended. Read the df manual and look for the -a option: "include pseudo, duplicate, inaccessible file systems" Best regards, Kl

Re: EFI partition - some questions

Here is another clue, please see: df Dateisystem 1K-Blöcke Benutzt Verfügbar Verw% Eingehängt auf udev 8058456 0 80584560% /dev tmpfs 1618552 2620 16159321% /run /dev/nvme0n1p71904648

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:29:41PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > > ssh but not to others (to which I can connect from everyw

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 13:29:41 +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > > ssh but not to others (to which I can connect from everywhere el

Re: EFI partition - some questions

On Wed, 2025-01-22 at 14:20 +0100, Hans wrote: Apologies, this is (another) long email. I tried to cover my experiences that were tied to that directory. tl;dr How did you install GRUB and/or EFI? It might be as simple as that. > I am using UEFI now for the first time. Everything is worin

Re: EFI partition - some questions

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 14:20:22 +0100 Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am using UEFI now for the first time. Everything is worḱing fine, > but I do not understand everything. That's alright, nobody else does either. > Please allow me to ask: > > 1. In /etc/fstab there is my entry > UUID=5ABD-D634

Re: EFI partition - some questions

Hans composed on 2025-01-22 14:20 (UTC+0100): > I am using UEFI now for the first time. Everything is worḱing fine, but I do > not understand > everything. Please allow me to ask: > 1. In /etc/fstab there is my entry > UUID=5ABD-D634 /boot/efi vfatumask=0077 0 1 > and df

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:13:35AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 14:56:54 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, that would be totally useful. As has been stated in this > > list last days, ping actually does two things for you: > > > > - resolve the host's name to an IP

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On 2025-01-22 13:50, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:26:23PM +, mick.crane wrote: Would traceroute show any DNS queries? That's what tcpdump/wireshark are for. Eeeek!

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 14:56:54 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yes, that would be totally useful. As has been stated in this > list last days, ping actually does two things for you: > > - resolve the host's name to an IP address > - check connectivity to that host Well, three really. It res

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:29:41PM +, Chris Green wrote: > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > ssh but not to others (to which I can connect from everywhere else). > > It also can't ping

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 08:51:35AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 13:29:41 +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > > ssh but not to others (

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:30:58PM +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:42:20 +0100 > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 12:34:20PM +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > > > > > > [...] DoH can circumvent manipulation by the ISP [...] > > > > It just replaces one bully by another bul

Re: ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 13:29:41 +, Chris Green wrote: > I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to > bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using > ssh but not to others (to which I can connect from everywhere else). What *actually* happens

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:26:23PM +, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-01-22 13:08, Joe wrote: > > > > When Verizon started doing that, I switched to OpenDNS. I also use > > > Google's DNS on occasion. > > > > > > > An example: > > > > https://uk.linkedin.com/company/barefruit > > When I select

ssh/ping only works to some systems, not including mine unfortunately

I have a remote headless system (running bullseye, will be updating to bookworm when I'm next there) that can connect to some systems using ssh but not to others (to which I can connect from everywhere else). It also can't ping the systems which it can't connect ssh to. I can't see any pattern in

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:42:20 +0100 wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 12:34:20PM +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > > > > [...] DoH can circumvent manipulation by the ISP [...] > > It just replaces one bully by another bully. I won't bet on Google not > manipulating its DoH lookups once that starts i

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On 2025-01-22 13:08, Joe wrote: When Verizon started doing that, I switched to OpenDNS. I also use Google's DNS on occasion. An example: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/barefruit When I selected cloudflair as DNS provider in chrome:settings/security Going to https://chat.openai.com cloudfl

EFI partition - some questions

Hi folks, I am using UEFI now for the first time. Everything is worḱing fine, but I do not understand everything. Please allow me to ask: 1. In /etc/fstab there is my entry UUID=5ABD-D634 /boot/efi vfatumask=0077 0 1 and df -h shows /dev/nvme0n1p1 96M

Re: ISP's router being helpful

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 37 lines --] > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:46:16AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > I somehow have got the feeling that we are talking about completely > > > different thi

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:16:07 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 6:35 AM Frank Guthausen > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:46:16 + > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > How can it do that in reality? It's connecting to the outside > > > world via the router. It would

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 6:35 AM Frank Guthausen wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:46:16 + > Chris Green wrote: > > > > How can it do that in reality? It's connecting to the outside world > > via the router. It would have to 'tunnel' through the router somehow > > wouldn't it as otherwise the

Re: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

On Wednesday, 22-01-2025 at 20:06 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hi, > > I struggled with this for several days and tried everything, but nothing > seems to work. I cannot successfully set shared clipboard between host > and guest machines when both run Wayland desktop. Welcome to Wayland ! I have

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:00:49AM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > On 1/22/25 00:10, George at Clug wrote: > > I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what > > it is that you are asking. > > > > Can you please give more explanation? > > I want to install the currently

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 12:34:20PM +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: [...] > Yes, the protocol used here is DoH or ``DNS over HTTPS''[1] which is > specified in RFC 8484[2]. This is a bypass for local network settings > which might not allow to ask external DNS servers as in the example > above. Sinc

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:46:16 + Chris Green wrote: > > How can it do that in reality? It's connecting to the outside world > via the router. It would have to 'tunnel' through the router somehow > wouldn't it as otherwise the router will 'see' any attempts to do DNS > type things. You can ask

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:46:16AM +, Chris Green wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > I somehow have got the feeling that we are talking about completely > > different things. DoH has absolutely nothing to do with your router's > > (or any other local network's, or your provider's) DNS

Re: ISP's router being helpful

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 34 lines --] > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:45:55AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 29 lines --] > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 22,

Re: ISP's router being helpful

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:45:55AM +, Chris Green wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 29 lines --] > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:30AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] > > > At least cloudflare and google do not resolve the ho

Re: ISP's router being helpful

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 29 lines --] > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:30AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 21/01/2025 23:31, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:38:51PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 19/01/20

Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

Hi, I struggled with this for several days and tried everything, but nothing seems to work. I cannot successfully set shared clipboard between host and guest machines when both run Wayland desktop. My current setup: Host machine: Debian 12.9 Desktop environment: KDE Plasma on default Wayland