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> On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:45:55AM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:30AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
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> > > > At least cloudflare and google do not resolve the host name (other DoH
> > > > provider may behave in a different way)
> > > 
> > > But most probably not in the way the OP expects, since they can't read
> > > (?) their local /etc/hosts...
> > > 
> > Surely in many cases DNS gets farmed out to a router to which the web
> > browser (whether Chromium based or not) doesn't have any sort of
> > direct access so it can't really dig around in the configuration.
> > 
> > I have removed nearly all the 'extra' DNS configuration (i.e. anything
> > like systemd's resolver and local DNS caching) in my main Linux
> > systems. I run dnsmasq on my router with a blacklist configuration so
> > ad-blocking works for every system on the LAN (it confuses visitors
> > sometimes when they don't see the usual adverts on their 'phones).
> > 
> > I run Vivaldi and it seems to behave fairly as one would expect in
> > this environment.
> 
> I somehow have got the feeling that we are talking about completely
> different things. DoH has absolutely nothing to do with your router's
> (or any other local network's, or your provider's) DNS. It bypasses
> it. That's its job.
> 
How can it do that in reality? It's connecting to the outside world
via the router.  It would have to 'tunnel' through the router somehow
wouldn't it as otherwise the router will 'see' any attempts to do DNS
type things.

I guess the browser can talk to numeric addresses just using the
router as the default route but that's still assuming the router
doesn't have its own internal 'investigation' of what's being passed
through it.

Are you saying that Chromium/Vivaldi have some fixed IP addresses that
they use for DNS servers out on the internet?

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Chris Green
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