On 10/19/19, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> I have a system running bullseye. When I try to log out, or shut down,
> from MATE, I invariably get a popup that tells me that
> at-spi-dbus-launcher is not responding. I click on "logout anyway", and
> the system does eventually log me out, but there's a delay
I have a system running bullseye. When I try to log out, or shut down,
from MATE, I invariably get a popup that tells me that
at-spi-dbus-launcher is not responding. I click on "logout anyway", and
the system does eventually log me out, but there's a delay.
I tried disabling the AT-SPI daemon an
Have a look at > https://lineageos.org/
they support many devices and often have an Android version the
manufacturor dosn't support. So maybe you get Android 5 or higher.
readU
Frank
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Hi All
Thanks for all the responses for this,
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:41 john doe wrote:
> On 10/19/2019 6:07 PM, Tom Browder wrote:
> > At home I use ssh from my iPad to my local Debian Buster laptop with no
> > noticeable delay most of the time.
...
> Could be one of the following:
> - Network topology
> - Network conjestion
...
Goo
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Tom Browder (2019-10-19 18:07:51)
> > At home I use ssh from my iPad to my local Debian Buster laptop with
> > no noticeable delay most of the time.
...
> If you don't have control over the gatewat router and don't want to add
> an
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:17 PM John Crawley wrote:
> On 2019-10-19 11:24, Dan Hitt wrote:
> > There's a piece of software, lazpaint, that i would like to install on
> > my debian system.
> > The project dates from 2011, so i think it's pretty well established.
> > https://sourceforge.net/project
Option 2) worked. Thank you!
P.S rant: systemd is a constant pain, mostly because you are never prepared
for the changes. You are always wondering "why my scripts won't work
anymore". I am not happy that setsid doesn't work anymore, but what drives
me crazy is that nobody care to tell us we could
On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 09:46 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> deloptes writes:
> > SQL comes everywhere handy...
>
> SQL is certainly handy, but I don't consider it a programming language
> (likewise HTML).
About 20 years ago I wrote and tested a match-merge update program with
(as I remember) the then
to...@tuxteam.de writes:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 02:46:38PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
[...]
> What kind of dependency resolution (attempt) do you get from
> your install command, if you try to keep the browser package,
> this way for instance:
>
># apt install sysvinit-core firefox-e
On 2019-10-19 08:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Have a nice day :)
cheers
mick
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 05:57:37PM +0200, Alejandro wrote:
> systemd-cgls shows they are running as part of
> gnome-terminal-server.service. I guess it explains how they are killed, but
> the main question remains: how do I stop such behavior?
Three choices:
1) Make your own user ser
On 10/19/2019 6:07 PM, Tom Browder wrote:
> At home I use ssh from my iPad to my local Debian Buster laptop with no
> noticeable delay most of the time.
>
> However, at my daughter’s house the same connection is SLOW.
>
> On both LAN’s ssh access to servers on the WLAN is no problem.
>
> Does anyon
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Quoting Tom Browder (2019-10-19 18:07:51)
> At home I use ssh from my iPad to my local Debian Buster laptop with
> no noticeable delay most of the time.
>
> However, at my daughter’s house the same connection is SLOW.
>
> On both LAN’s s
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 03:06:14PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
[...]
Thanks, Étienne. You were right.
OK, for the record: firefox-esr does *not* depend on systemd. I was misled,
because (sysv system here, freshly upgraded to Buster)
sudo apt install firefox-esr
wants to install systemd (an
On Saturday 19 October 2019 08:38:15 John Hasler wrote:
> Joe quotes:
> > "If you think you need to use floating point, you don't fully
> > understand your application."
>
> Right. There isn't anything you can't do with bignum.
>
> I wrote software for control systems using cpus such as the RCA 1
systemd-cgls shows they are running as part of
gnome-terminal-server.service. I guess it explains how they are killed, but
the main question remains: how do I stop such behavior?
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM Ansgar wrote:
> Camilo Alejandro Arboleda writes:
> > I'm running Debian testing wit
At home I use ssh from my iPad to my local Debian Buster laptop with no
noticeable delay most of the time.
However, at my daughter’s house the same connection is SLOW.
On both LAN’s ssh access to servers on the WLAN is no problem.
Does anyone have a suggestion for fixing that?
She uses ATT’s DS
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 02:46:38PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
[...]
> Hi tomás,
Hi, Étienne
> After applying upgrades, while switching my Buster test machine
> to sysvinit-core, several things go away, but firefox-esr ain't
> one of those. The machine was installed from Debian 10 ISO, so
>
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:34:06 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
> > And it's not so much fundamental languages as the buzzwords, the
> > frameworks, 'agile' programming, AJAX, and things like proprietary
> > CMS (C for both content and customer) systems. Nobody ever asks for
> > basic programm
Thomas D Dial writes:
> FORTRAN is somewhat similar, but has a smaller, more stable, and mors
> specialized application space and often, I think, is maintained by the
> successors of the program users who wrote it originally. A good deal
> of it may, by now, have been replaced by C, C++, Python, or
On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 09:48 +0200, deloptes wrote:
> James H. H. Lampert wrote:
>
> > The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . .
> >
> > Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited
> > to)
> > IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1,
>
deloptes writes:
> SQL comes everywhere handy...
SQL is certainly handy, but I don't consider it a programming language
(likewise HTML).
If you *do* consider HTML a programming language the crawling horrors
that most Web sites send out make the worst BASIC spaghetti balls look
like something out
On 10/19/2019 08:26 AM, deloptes wrote:
[SNIP]
SQL comes
everywhere handy, because you have to store the data somewhere - but still
there is difference between Oracle, MySQL/MariaDB or sqlite. Each one has
its advantages and disadvantages - and SQL for the one is likely not
compatible with SQL fo
Joe wrote:
> And it's not so much fundamental languages as the buzzwords, the
> frameworks, 'agile' programming, AJAX, and things like proprietary CMS
> (C for both content and customer) systems. Nobody ever asks for basic
> programming skills.
You are sooo right, but one must understand the lang
Joe wrote:
> Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? It was 45 years ago, but
> I still remember...
Indeed - I have the feeling here only people from the home for the elderly
(Seniorenheim) are posting - BASIC, COBOL, PASCAL ... OMG
Though I must admit there were some good posts around -
On 19/10/2019 14.46, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> # apt install sysvinit-core firefox-esr
>
> I don't exclude to have done things the wrong way myself, in my
> test though...
... for instance, I could have appended at least the "--dry-run"
option, and also triggered uninstallation of "systemd" (
On 19/10/2019 11.42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just upgraded to buster. Things went (mostly) smoothly -- thanks to
> all the kind souls at Debian!
>
> Just realized that firefox-esr seems (perhaps I'm wrong?) to depend on
> systemd now.
>
> - am I holding it wrong?
> - is there an al
Due to low data cap and doing very customized installs I've generally
purchased DVD sets {now available on a single flash drive}. The one I
purchased has ISO's of both install and live versions on a single partition.
I wish to copy only the install DVDs to a single partition of:
1. the laptop
Joe quotes:
> "If you think you need to use floating point, you don't fully
> understand your application."
Right. There isn't anything you can't do with bignum.
I wrote software for control systems using cpus such as the RCA 1802.
You can do a lot more with 8 bit integers than seems possible at
Joe writes:
> Spend an hour or two with the job advertisements (which is what the OP
> needs to do) to see the enormous range of what employers *think* they
> want, and this is what the young ladies in HR will definitely require
> of an applicant.
Especially amusing are the ads that demand five ye
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 01:25:51PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote:
[...]
> Hi,
>
> I am running Debian Buster here as well (with systemd), but how do you get
> the impression that Browsers depend on it? Is it in some way a transitive
> dependencey? Because when querying directly, I see nothing:
Yes, I
to...@tuxteam.de writes:
Hi,
just upgraded to buster. Things went (mostly) smoothly -- thanks to
all the kind souls at Debian!
Just realized that firefox-esr seems (perhaps I'm wrong?) to depend on
systemd now.
- am I holding it wrong?
- is there an alternative?
BTW. midori seems to de
Hi,
just upgraded to buster. Things went (mostly) smoothly -- thanks to
all the kind souls at Debian!
Just realized that firefox-esr seems (perhaps I'm wrong?) to depend on
systemd now.
- am I holding it wrong?
- is there an alternative?
BTW. midori seems to depend on systemd too.
Thanks f
Camilo Alejandro Arboleda writes:
> I'm running Debian testing with Linux 5.2, Gnome 3.34.1 and systemd 242. At
> some point the last month systemd stopped honoring the
> "KillUserProcesses=no" setting in /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Now all
> processes get killed and googling shows nothing.
>
> Not s
Hi,
Joe wrote:
> "If you think you need to use floating point, you don't fully
> understand your application."
+0.9
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:09:06 +0200
"Thomas Schmitt" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> John Hasler wrote:
> > > FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s,
>
> Joe wrote:
> > Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings?
>
> 212H Of course you don't do string processing in FORTRAN. It's for
> problems which you can solve b
Hi,
John Hasler wrote:
> > FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s,
Joe wrote:
> Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings?
212H Of course you don't do string processing in FORTRAN. It's for problems
which you can solve by representing everything as homogeneous coordinates
and then computing the result by
Hello,
I'm running Debian testing with Linux 5.2, Gnome 3.34.1 and systemd 242. At
some point the last month systemd stopped honoring the
"KillUserProcesses=no" setting in /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Now all
processes get killed and googling shows nothing.
Not sure if it is a bug in debian, upstrea
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:34:57 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> I guess some people who started with BASIC do eventually recover.
>
And then you say:
> FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s,
Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? It was 45 years ago, but
I still remember...
--
Joe
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:50:29 +0100
Brian wrote:
>
> > Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want
>
> Nobody has answered the question yet.
>
Because there isn't an answer.
Spend an hour or two with the job advertisements (which is what the OP
needs to do) to see the enormous
Brian wrote:
> You, and everybody else, may as well have skipped the whole post and
> saved the List from wasting bandwidth. I ask you
>
> > This is just a quick survey.
>
> Really?
>
> > I am considering being a programmer
>
> Wowee.
>
> > Turritopsis Dohrnii
>
> Jellyfish. Hard to gras
James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . .
>
> Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited to)
> IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1,
> Level 2, and Mod I Disk BASIC, GWBASIC, and the various QBASICs
> (
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Never did much Perl, but I think anything (well, not sure about obfuscated
> C) is more readable than APL.
I am not sure if it makes sense to compare a modern car engine with one
constructed 150y ago.
Hi,
i wrote:
> > The overall design paradigm is object oriented but without fancy stuff
> > like overloading or inheritance. Encapsulation and aggregation must
> > suffice.
mick crane wrote:
> This is interesting topic for me but don't know what these words
> "overloading or inheritance. Encapsul
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