to...@tuxteam.de writes:

Hi,

just upgraded to buster. Things went (mostly) smoothly -- thanks to
all the kind souls at Debian!

Just realized that firefox-esr seems (perhaps I'm wrong?) to depend on
systemd now.

  - am I holding it wrong?
  - is there an alternative?

BTW. midori seems to depend on systemd too.

Thanks for any pointers, cheers
-- tomas

Hi,

I am running Debian Buster here as well (with systemd), but how do you get
the impression that Browsers depend on it? Is it in some way a transitive
dependencey? Because when querying directly, I see nothing:

        ~$ aptitude show firefox-esr | grep systemd
        ~$ aptitude show midori | grep systemd
        ~$ apt-cache policy firefox-esr
        firefox-esr:
          Installed: 60.9.0esr-1~deb10u1
          Candidate: 60.9.0esr-1~deb10u1
          Version table:
         *** 60.9.0esr-1~deb10u1 500
                500 http://security.debian.org buster/updates/main amd64 
Packages
                100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
             60.8.0esr-1~deb10u1 500
                500 http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        ~$ apt-cache policy midori
        midori:
          Installed: (none)
          Candidate: 7.0-2
          Version table:
             7.0-2 500
                500 http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

I know there are some people on this list who run systemd-free systems, so
possibly if any of them has a GUI web-browser installed this might resolve
the question more quickly than my "theoretical" approach from above?

HTH
Linux-Fan

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