Re: I want beep in urxvt terminal

2011-02-14 Thread Csanyi Pal
Csanyi Pal writes: > Andrei Popescu writes: > >> On Lu, 14 feb 11, 20:55:05, Csanyi Pal wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> on my Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze system >>> in the textual - command line environment - console I can hear beep >>> when hit on keyboard Down key at the and of command history, >> >> Wha

Re: How do I downgrade my gdm ?

2011-02-14 Thread Hoang Le
When I tried to install gdm, to replace gdm3, I got these message: The following packages will be REMOVED: gdm3 gnome gnome-desktop-environment The following NEW packages will be installed: fast-user-switch-applet gdm gdm-themes libdmx1 I think I need to do something else...

amd64 Squeeze sources.list

2011-02-14 Thread Boblitz John
Good morning, I installed the 64b squeeze yesterday and all went well. I do have a problem though with the sources.list / apt-get function. The command lines for the package updates don't seem to work properly: Any ideas what I need to change? /etc/apt/sources.list **snip deb http://pac

Re: Hardware needed for home network

2011-02-14 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 11:19 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Tixy a écrit : > > > > The server uses PPPoE to talk to the modem, which translates this into > > PPPoA to get to my IPSs equipment. > > Are you sure of this ? Isn't your modem rather working as a plain > ethernet bridge, just transparen

hyperlatex for squeeze

2011-02-14 Thread Russell L. Harris
A few weeks ago, I saw a bug report or a posting regarding the inclusion of hyperlatex in Squeeze. If I recall correctly, hyperlatex has a dependency upon Emacs 22, which, in turn, has a problem with unicode. I do not find hyperlatex in the Squeeze repository. Previously running Etch, I have b

Re: I want beep in urxvt terminal

2011-02-14 Thread Csanyi Pal
Andrei Popescu writes: > On Lu, 14 feb 11, 20:55:05, Csanyi Pal wrote: >> Hi, >> >> on my Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze system >> in the textual - command line environment - console I can hear beep >> when hit on keyboard Down key at the and of command history, > > What DE? See also #610190. I'm run

Re: sandboxie like application for Debian? [Possible Threadjack]

2011-02-14 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 14 February 2011 11:59:08 Arthur Machlas wrote: >> > YMMV, I currently only use schroot to run the 32-bit (only) ICAClient for >> > work. >> >> I tried to set up the same client and noticed it needed all kinds of >> 32bit l

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread teddieeb
Why would you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time"?? Its stable/tested, CERTIFIEd to work fine, that's all.. Move to another distro like fedora if you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time". kn -- Or, run Testing, I run Testing and almost never have issues

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Charles Kroeger
> I like this one: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ If you have grub2 then use Rescatux..doesn't everyone use grub2 anyway? I had to use Rescatux just recently after an upgrade whilst avoiding dist-upgrade until the nvidia-glx 260 driver moves into unstable. After one of those 'upgrade' solution

Re: How do I downgrade my gdm ?

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 14 February 2011 06:11:54 pm Hoang Le wrote: > Because I like the old flat style, not this Mac-like login screen :) Don't know what your references mean, or what Debian release you are using. If it is a gdm3/squeeze issue you can use gdm, both are available. -- Peace, Greg -- To U

Squeeze update => disk unbootable

2011-02-14 Thread Frank Miles
I've just tried updating a seldom-used laptop from "lenny" (2.6.26 custom-compiled kernel) to "squeeze". Everything seemed to be working perfectly until the reboot. Rebooting gives a repeated message "fsck died with exit status 8". Using nano to rename the /etc/fstab entries /dev/hdaX -> /de

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:50:30PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Krzysztof, > > that is not the point. For myself I am using testing as well. My opinion and > my thoughts are these: using stable (with the premisse "things will not > change during the next 2 years except of security issues

Re: How do I downgrade my gdm ?

2011-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Because I like the old flat style, not this Mac-like login screen :) I haven't seen Debian's login screen but I assume that you mean that you don't want the latest GNOME's gdm user list. Ubuntu way: sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 /apps/gdm/simple-gr

How do I downgrade my gdm ?

2011-02-14 Thread Hoang Le
Because I like the old flat style, not this Mac-like login screen :)

xterm question

2011-02-14 Thread Mike McClain
Every time I launch X I open a couple of xterm windows but have to Ctrl Middle click in the window to set the VT font to large before it's usable to my old eyes. I'd like to automate that but have never figured out how. I've tried set-vt-font in .Xdefaults but that didn't help and don't see anythin

Re: route table behind router

2011-02-14 Thread Mike McClain
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > According to a quick search seems to imply that a firewall or a router > along the way is the culprit. If you are lucky it's the router and a > firmware upgrade might solve the problem. >From this I take it you think ecn should b

Re: Running Firefox instead of Iceweasel package?

2011-02-14 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Erin, On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Erin Brinkley wrote: > I use the 'iceweasel' package for my main browser. But I was thinking about > how Firefox itself (at mozilla.com) is much newer. I read a blog comment that > someone started running the newest binary directly from Firefox instead

Re: grub 2 problems ??

2011-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:00 AM, steef wrote: > > exprt install of squeeze makes it possible to install the grub(2) package > *and not*  to put the bootloader in the mbr of [each] disk or of course > elsewhere like a partition. I'm pretty sure that the standard install also offers to install grub

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:49:29AM -0800, Erin Brinkley wrote: > Greg Madden wrote: > > > The default suggestion , sda, works for most people , If you don't know > > you want grub installed in another place. sda is the same as the older > > 'mbr' question. > > Ok, this makes sense. I know the

Re: Squeeze install hangs reading CD drive

2011-02-14 Thread Brian
On Mon 14 Feb 2011 at 23:24:28 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > Thanks. I tried that last week with debian-508-i386-netinst.iso and couldn't > get the desktop to boot from it, despite trying the likely BIOS settings. > Someone suggested that this would only work with a hybrid iso. Is that the > case

Re: Running Firefox instead of Iceweasel package?

2011-02-14 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 06:03:06PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:33:18 -0800, Erin Brinkley wrote: > > > I use the 'iceweasel' package for my main browser. But I was thinking > > about how Firefox itself (at mozilla.com) is much newer. I read a blog > > comment that someone start

Re: Unable to print from Windows Vista Laptop via Samba

2011-02-14 Thread Pablo Sánchez
James, i usually use ipp (internet printing protocol) to print on cups from windows , skipping samba alltogether. Just map the printer over http://printerhost:631/printers/PrinterName . Bear in mind that you can create a raw print spool , o have the real driver of the printer. In the first cas

Re: sandboxie like application for Debian? [Possible Threadjack]

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 11:59:08 Arthur Machlas wrote: > > YMMV, I currently only use schroot to run the 32-bit (only) ICAClient for > > work. > > I tried to set up the same client and noticed it needed all kinds of > 32bit libraries and was considering my options. Any link or sketched > outlin

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 15:50:30 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > that is not the point. For myself I am using testing as well. My opinion > and my thoughts are these: using stable (with the premisse "things will > not change during the next 2 years except of security issues") is outdated > today. If

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 14 February 2011 09:49:29 am Erin Brinkley wrote: snip > I installed over the net with apt! So basically I have no install media. > > Should I be making some kind of emergency disk before trying this?? Not sure what you mean by 'no install media' AFAIK, you have to have one of the

Re: Squeeze install hangs reading CD drive

2011-02-14 Thread Steve Kleene
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:49:57 +, I wrote: > I'm trying to do a fresh netinst of Squeeze on a new desktop, and it's > hanging in "Select and install software". ... > it's failing to read the CD. On 2011-02-14 21:57:24 GMT, Camaleón replied: > you can try by creating an USB boot disk. Thanks

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 15:34:38 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Pidgin and > kopete were complete useless for users of stable (almost more than a > year!!!) Not if those users ran volatile. I think it took a week or two, but we eventually got an update. The backports service provides packages from

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 15:07:30 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Debian policy breaks the sense of "stable". Debian "stable" == "unchanging" Debian "unstable" == "changing" Debian "stable" != "few or no bugs" Debian "unstable" != "full of bugs" If you take uses of the English work "stable" that do no

Re: Boot without initrd when using full-disk encryption

2011-02-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Arthur Machlas a écrit : > I've built kernels without an initrd a number of times, but never > before on a system with full-desk encryption. When installing Squeeze > on a laptop I used the assisted setup and created a ful-disk > encryption setup, that has a separate /boot partition, the re

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 12:32:20 Erin Brinkley wrote: > One thing I would like to add is that when Debian has a major upgrade, it > should ALWAYS keep your config files. I know that it asks whether you want > to install the new maintainer version or keep your old, but this is always > a headache

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Andreas Weber
Use Git for your /etc or whatever. On 2011-02-14 22:34, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: >> Automagic merging is difficult. Trying to guess what I meant with my local >> config changes would likely drive someone mad :). Well, unless they read >> my documentation and changelogs. You do document local config

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 11:58:28 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear developers, Wrong list. You want debian-devel. For the irksome case where a proprietary protocol is changed out from under Free Software in a stable release, Debian has already had a mechanism for fixing this, for a while. Firs

Re: How to install an older version (3.0) of OpenOffice?

2011-02-14 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2011-02-14 16:18, Jon Dowland skrev: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:33:36AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: Personally, if I would need to get it to work quickly, and without risking the debian installation (by mixing library versions) I would probably install lenny in a virtualbox environment, and th

Boot without initrd when using full-disk encryption

2011-02-14 Thread Arthur Machlas
I've built kernels without an initrd a number of times, but never before on a system with full-desk encryption. When installing Squeeze on a laptop I used the assisted setup and created a ful-disk encryption setup, that has a separate /boot partition, the rest of the disk LVM and whatever encryptio

Re: Squeeze install hangs reading CD drive

2011-02-14 Thread kn
"And then boot from the USB. That's all." I had an issue while installing via USB flash drive. I could boot from the usb, select language etc etc, but somewhere when the installer tries to mount the "cd-rom", it failed! The installer doesn't know that I'm installing from a usb. Sent from my Bla

Re: Squeeze install hangs reading CD drive

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:49:57 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > I'm trying to do a fresh netinst of Squeeze on a new desktop, and it's > hanging in "Select and install software". I looked at console 4 while > it was hanging and saw 8-line kernel errors like this ad nauseam: > > sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 22:34:38, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > Of course it is difficult. If this is wanted, maybe a brand new way must be > found, to merge ASCII-files. At the moment I do not know any. As there are > tools, which merge files, they cannot discover double entries. Maybe every > line >

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Krzysztof, that is not the point. For myself I am using testing as well. My opinion and my thoughts are these: using stable (with the premisse "things will not change during the next 2 years except of security issues") is outdated today. This premisse makes no sense for stable, if exceptio

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 02/14/2011 07:34 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Montag, 14. Februar 2011 schrieb der.hans: Hi Hans, Does backports provide the updates you want to see? http://backports.debian.org/ No, there are not older packages needed, but NEWER packages from testing should be transferred to stable! As I

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:59:18 -0800, Erin Brinkley wrote: (...) > Telling a Debian user that she should get lost because her view is > different than yours is pretty stone age, sorry. And I do NOT appreciate > it. I think YOU are the person who should move on. Like scram. Don't take it as that. I

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Krzysztof Bieniasz
> Well, I want to like to suggest, to slightly change the policy for > debian/stable. Please let me explain. In the past years I am using > debian (now for more than 8 years), there always was a problem with > debian/stable whenever things changed, and new versions of applications > or libs were no

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag, 14. Februar 2011 schrieb der.hans: Hi Hans, > Does backports provide the updates you want to see? > > http://backports.debian.org/ > No, there are not older packages needed, but NEWER packages from testing should be transferred to stable! As I wrote in my example: Pidgin and kopete

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread der.hans
Am 14. Feb, 2011 schwätzte Hans-J. Ullrich so: moin moin Hans, First of all thanks for the fast reply. Of course I know, this is a user list, but I think, there are also a lot of developers here. Well, what I wanted to express is this (and please apologize my direct words): Debian policy brea

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Keshwarsingh Nadan
This is not considered as a "hate mail". The OP wanted incremental softwares all the time, go for fedora if you cannot distinguish between stable/unstable. - - -> "Also, for work systems I always just use stable. I don't need the newest version if it means something might break. But I do feel lik

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hello all! First of all thanks for the fast reply. Of course I know, this is a user list, but I think, there are also a lot of developers here. Well, what I wanted to express is this (and please apologize my direct words): Debian policy breaks the sense of "stable", because of its own policy it

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Joe
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:32:20 -0800 (PST) Erin Brinkley wrote: >> > Is something like this doable / desirable or do we have to just wait > every year or so and then do a major upgrade? Like I said I would SO > prefer to just upgrade software incrementally all the time. It would > reduce user head

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Mark
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Klistvud wrote: [snip] > I like -- actually, love, as Barry White would say, -- Debian "just the way > it is". > [snip] Just wanted to throw a kudos to you for finding a way to include a Barry White reference in the Debian mailing list! Mark

Re: I want beep in urxvt terminal

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 20:55:05, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Hi, > > on my Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze system > in the textual - command line environment - console I can hear beep when > hit on keyboard Down at the and of command history, What DE? See also #610190. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 14. 02. 2011 18:58:28 je Hans-J. Ullrich napisal(a): Dear developers, I hope, this might be the right list, to start a new discussion. Additionally this also should read developers and ftp-masters, as theire word has great weight. Unfortunately, this is just a user-to-user list. Ther

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-02-14 19:59 +0100, Erin Brinkley wrote: > I don't appreciate getting hate mail from people simply because I was > politely TALKING ABOUT DEBIAN on the debian-user list. That was hardly a "hate mail", though rather uninformed (for incremental upgrades you don't have to move to other distro

I want beep in urxvt terminal

2011-02-14 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze system in the textual - command line environment - console I can hear beep when hit on keyboard Down at the and of command history, but in the grapchical environment - X Window - in a rxvt (urxvt) terminal I can't hear it. Why? I have installed alsa stuff, I ca

Squeeze install hangs reading CD drive

2011-02-14 Thread Steve Kleene
I'm trying to do a fresh netinst of Squeeze on a new desktop, and it's hanging in "Select and install software". I looked at console 4 while it was hanging and saw 8-line kernel errors like this ad nauseam: sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key: Medium error [current] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Unrecove

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 05:19:11PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 02/14/2011 04:59 PM, Erin Brinkley wrote: > >I don't appreciate getting hate mail from people simply because I was > >politely TALKING ABOUT DEBIAN on the debian-user list. > > > >I don't know where you get your communicatio

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:59:18 -0800 (PST) Erin Brinkley wrote: > I don't appreciate getting hate mail from people simply because I was > politely TALKING ABOUT DEBIAN on the debian-user list. > > I don't know where you get your communications and people skills, > Keshwarsingh Nadan, but if I wer

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread kn
mehh. :-p Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Andrei Popescu Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:38:44 To: Subject: Re: Hate mail from Debian people On Lu, 14 feb 11, 10:59:18, Erin Brinkley wrote: [snip] Please be aware that English is not the first language for

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 10:59:18, Erin Brinkley wrote: [snip] Please be aware that English is not the first language for many people on this list and also because of the limitations of written communication some things may come across wrongly. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian us

Re: grub 2 problems ??

2011-02-14 Thread steef
hi bob, took aome time before i could answer you (family to take care of). i try out your suggestions on a spare machine with two hd's (pata). i let you know if it works. thank you for your answer. kind regards, steef Bob Proulx schreef: steef wrote: for years (from potato/woody on)

Re: Hardware needed for home network

2011-02-14 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 11:19 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Tixy a écrit : > > > > The server uses PPPoE to talk to the modem, which translates this into > > PPPoA to get to my IPSs equipment. > > Are you sure of this ? Isn't your modem rather working as a plain > ethernet bridge, just transparen

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 10:06:51, Erin Brinkley wrote: > Ok, I lied! :) > So what do I pick for this, /dev/sda or /dev/sda1? Maybe a bit of snipping might help ;) > Here is what's on the screen: ... > If you're unsure which drive is designated > as boot drive by your BIOS, it is often a > good idea

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread der.hans
Am 14. Feb, 2011 schwätzte Erin Brinkley so: moin moin Erin, "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: I will be pleased if my suggestion is worth to start a discussion of it. Great suggestion! Couldn't have said it better myself! Not even close! One thing I would like to add is that when Debian has a maj

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 18:58:28, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: [big snip] This has been discussed over and over and over and over and over (you get the point, just search the archives of debian-user and debian-devel). Before you start this discussion again please read on backports and squeeze-updates

Re: checking for changes in file size/permissions since installation?

2011-02-14 Thread Lev Lvovsky
Carl, On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: > You might have been thinking of debsums. That will check the MD5 sums > of installed packages, but I don't know whether it covers all installed > files. The checksums are stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info, so they might > also be corrupt. >

Re: Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 02/14/2011 04:59 PM, Erin Brinkley wrote: I don't appreciate getting hate mail from people simply because I was politely TALKING ABOUT DEBIAN on the debian-user list. I don't know where you get your communications and people skills, Keshwarsingh Nadan, but if I were you I would take them back

Hate mail from Debian people

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
I don't appreciate getting hate mail from people simply because I was politely TALKING ABOUT DEBIAN on the debian-user list. I don't know where you get your communications and people skills, Keshwarsingh Nadan, but if I were you I would take them back! For a full refund! Telling a Debian user t

Re: Cleaning house (purging packages)

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 09:58:17, Erin Brinkley wrote: > Ok, one more quick Debian user question ... last one, I promise! > > After my upgrade to Squeeze I have a lot of packages that were "rc": > removed, but configs remain. A lot of these appear to be obsolete > packages. In any event, I won't be us

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 02/14/2011 04:32 PM, Erin Brinkley wrote: One thing I would like to add is that when Debian has a major upgrade, it should ALWAYS keep your config files. It does. Unless you tell it otherwise. I know that it asks whether you want to install the new maintainer version or keep your old, bu

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
Greg Madden wrote: > The default suggestion , sda, works for most people , If you don't know > you want grub installed in another place. sda is the same as the older > 'mbr' question. Ok, this makes sense. I know the /boot dir is in /dev/sda1. I'll try the default now. > Don't worry, you c

Re: How to find old removed packages on debian.org

2011-02-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 feb 11, 09:49:35, Erin Brinkley wrote: > I have a question about using packages.debian.org. > > Sometimes I will come across a package that is no longer in stable and > will want to find out more about it. Like right now I found out I have > "texlive-context" in my systems history. The

Re: Fwd: Re: Buffers VS Page Cache

2011-02-14 Thread George Shuklin
When I say 'almost no documentation' I means "every article I found about /proc/meminfo do not describe difference between Cache and Buffers". For book link - thanks. I believe if nothing will be in it, thats means something like 'linux console code'. I hope it not. Thanks again. В Вс., 13/02/

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread kn
Why would you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time"?? Its stable/tested, CERTIFIEd to work fine, that's all.. Move to another distro like fedora if you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time". kn Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message-

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
"Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > I will be pleased if my suggestion is worth to start a discussion of it. Great suggestion! Couldn't have said it better myself! Not even close! One thing I would like to add is that when Debian has a major upgrade, it should ALWAYS keep your config files. I know that

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread kn
Backports is for little haxoars. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Thierry Chatelet Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:41:38 To: Subject: Re: New policies? On Monday 14 February 2011 18:58:28 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear developers, As the name of list states, t

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Monday 14 February 2011 18:58:28 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear developers, As the name of list states, this is a "user" list. Better post to devel list. Nevertheless what is backport for? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Need scancode for mouse buttons

2011-02-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 20:14, Camaleón wrote: >> Yes, both these tools need the scancodes or keycodes already, as they >> rely on "button events". I don't yet have "button events" for this >> device. > > Maybe I'm getting this wrong but I think you first need to instruct xorg > about the real ava

Re: Help with my Squeeze upgrade! (missing fonts)

2011-02-14 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:38:36PM EST, Erin Brinkley wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 03:19:38PM EST, Erin Brinkley wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > > I guess that leaves three loose ends to this whole adventure: > > > > > (1) Is it recommended to try adding /usr/share/tex

Re: New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Simon Tibble
On 14/02/11 17:58, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear developers, > > Such things happen and will happen in our fast changing times again and > again, > and IMO especially stable-users want a system that is running stable. But > debian policy is causing more trouble than expected. I value the stab

Re: Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 14 February 2011 09:06:51 am Erin Brinkley wrote: > Ok, I lied! > > As part of the Lenny to Squeeze upgrade, I guess > there's a whole new grub boot process! > > It tells you that when your system settles down, > you should run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" ... ok, > I just did that now an

Help configuring grub-pc

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
Ok, I lied! As part of the Lenny to Squeeze upgrade, I guess there's a whole new grub boot process! It tells you that when your system settles down, you should run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" ... ok, I just did that now and I am STUCK! I guess I have to pick out what device that grub-install will

New policies?

2011-02-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear developers, I hope, this might be the right list, to start a new discussion. Additionally this also should read developers and ftp-masters, as theire word has great weight. Well, I want to like to suggest, to slightly change the policy for debian/stable. Please let me explain. In the pas

Cleaning house (purging packages)

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
Ok, one more quick Debian user question ... last one, I promise! After my upgrade to Squeeze I have a lot of packages that were "rc": removed, but configs remain. A lot of these appear to be obsolete packages. In any event, I won't be using them. Is it ok/good/smart to "apt get purge" them? Tha

Re: Need scancode for mouse buttons

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:01:21 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 18:42, Camaleón wrote: >> Xinput or Imwheel? But it seems to me a bit overwhelming as both look >> like tools for directly setting up the mouse by mapping buttons with >> actions :-? >> >> > Yes, both these tools need

How to find old removed packages on debian.org

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
I have a question about using packages.debian.org. Sometimes I will come across a package that is no longer in stable and will want to find out more about it. Like right now I found out I have "texlive-context" in my systems history. The package is removed, but the configs remain. I'm pretty su

Re: Running Firefox instead of Iceweasel package?

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:33:18 -0800, Erin Brinkley wrote: > I use the 'iceweasel' package for my main browser. But I was thinking > about how Firefox itself (at mozilla.com) is much newer. I read a blog > comment that someone started running the newest binary directly from > Firefox instead of the

Re: sandboxie like application for Debian? [Possible Threadjack]

2011-02-14 Thread Arthur Machlas
> YMMV, I currently only use schroot to run the 32-bit (only) ICAClient for > work. I tried to set up the same client and noticed it needed all kinds of 32bit libraries and was considering my options. Any link or sketched outline about the steps you took to do this? If you are inclined to respond

Debian Font Manager RIP? (Defoma)

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
Hey all, I have been trying to solve this mystery for a while. I have Defoma on my system and just upgraded to sqeeze. I found old messages in the Defoma package logs that said it was a dead project. That was YEARS ago. But it's in Squeeze and there's no mention of it being dead. I use fontconf

Re: Help with my Squeeze upgrade! (missing fonts)

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 03:19:38PM EST, Erin Brinkley wrote: > > [..] > > > I guess that leaves three loose ends to this whole adventure: > > > (1) Is it recommended to try adding /usr/share/texmf and > > /usr/share/texmf-texlive fonts to fontconfig? > > Did you check the

Running Firefox instead of Iceweasel package?

2011-02-14 Thread Erin Brinkley
I use the 'iceweasel' package for my main browser. But I was thinking about how Firefox itself (at mozilla.com) is much newer. I read a blog comment that someone started running the newest binary directly from Firefox instead of the iceweasel package. Is this even possible?? If so I'd like to tr

Re: 3ware 9650SE-8LPML degrading every day

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:33:18 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:35:27 +0100, Michael Kress wrote: >> > Hi, my 3ware 9650SE-8LPML is degrading exactly ONE drive every day at >> > exactly 2:08:49 AM in the morning (at exactly TH

Re: Need scancode for mouse buttons

2011-02-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 18:42, Camaleón wrote: > Xinput or Imwheel? But it seems to me a bit overwhelming as both look > like tools for directly setting up the mouse by mapping buttons with > actions :-? > Yes, both these tools need the scancodes or keycodes already, as they rely on "button event

Re: Need scancode for mouse buttons

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:03:34 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have a nice new mouse with two extra multimedia buttons. When I try to > get the scancodes with "xev", "xbindkeys -k", "showkey", or "showkey -s" > then I see no output. There are some other functional keys on this mouse > which also show

Re: lvm: error whilst loading shared libraries

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 09:56:55 Glyn Astill wrote: > "lvm: error whilst loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open > shared object file: no such file or directory" Sounds like something got way too aggressive when removing packages. Can you get into the system environment another w

Re: 3ware 9650SE-8LPML degrading every day

2011-02-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:35:27 +0100, Michael Kress wrote: > > Hi, my 3ware 9650SE-8LPML is degrading exactly ONE drive every day at > > exactly 2:08:49 AM in the morning (at exactly THAT second even) > > (...) > > I also get, from time to time, a degraded ar

Re: sandboxie like application for Debian?

2011-02-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 14 February 2011 05:43:21 erikmccaskey64 wrote: > To be specific: The user could launch a program [e.g.: Google Chrome] > inside this sandbox, and when he/she exits Google Chrome, all the changes > that Google Chrome did is "undoed". + Google Chrome is in a sandbox, so it > can't "see"/re

Re: Unable to print from Windows Vista Laptop via Samba

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:36:36 +, James Allsopp wrote: > I have a debian server running samba connected to a local USB printer. I > also have a dual boot laptop with windows Vista on it. I can print fine > from the server and the linux side of the laptop using CUPS, and even > though I can see m

Re: How to install an older version (3.0) of OpenOffice?

2011-02-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:33:36AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > Personally, if I would need to get it to work quickly, and without > risking the debian installation (by mixing library versions) I would > probably install lenny in a virtualbox environment, and then add the > relevant line t

lvm: error whilst loading shared libraries

2011-02-14 Thread Glyn Astill
Hi Guys, I've just had an attempt at upgrading a machine from lenny to squeeze, however this machine as an lvm root volume. Upon booting I now see the message: "lvm: error whilst loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory" I'm guessing I

Re: sandboxie like application for Debian?

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:43:21 -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > http://www.filehippo.com/download_sandboxie/ > > > It's a great application [ for windows... :\ ] > > > Are there any programs under Debian, that has the ~same features? Under Windows that app makes more much sense than under linux,

sandboxie like application for Debian?

2011-02-14 Thread erikmccaskey64
http://www.filehippo.com/download_sandboxie/ It's a great application [ for windows... :\ ] Are there any programs under Debian, that has the ~same features? To be specific: The user could launch a program [e.g.: Google Chrome] inside this sandbox, and when he/she exits Google Chrome, all t

Re: screen saver

2011-02-14 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 14. 02. 2011 15:19:38 je alvise russo napisal(a): Ciao, ho installato Squeeze su lenovo R500 amd64 : non riuscendo a segnalare con reportbug, segnalo che lo screen saver si impalla dopo un lasso di tempo di ca 20 minuti e il monitor diventa a righe bianco e nero. Poi con l'uso del click o co

Re: 3ware 9650SE-8LPML degrading every day

2011-02-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:35:27 +0100, Michael Kress wrote: > Hi, my 3ware 9650SE-8LPML is degrading exactly ONE drive every day at > exactly 2:08:49 AM in the morning (at exactly THAT second even) (...) I also get, from time to time, a degraded array (raid 5), and always with the same disk. And

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