xine: no plugin for MRL

2007-03-30 Thread Bernd Kloss
Hello, on three different computers, all Etch 2.6.18-3-k7, KDE 3.5, Kaffeine 0.83 DVDs recorded from TV with a normal DVD-recorder can be played correctly. But some commercial DVDs can only be played on one of them. Following error (translated message) occurs on the other two computers: Sourc

Re: Need help with SSH set-up

2007-03-30 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 3/31/07, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm setting up SSH to replace telnet for use on my LAN. I've gotten basic functionality working but I'm struggling with ssh-agent and ssh-add. Where should I put them? Or have invocation of them already been planted in boot-up scripts somewhere awaiting my flipp

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >>> Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *w

Need help with SSH set-up

2007-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm setting up SSH to replace telnet for use on my LAN. I've gotten basic functionality working but I'm struggling with ssh-agent and ssh-add. Where should I put them? Or have invocation of them already been planted in boot-up scripts somewhere awaiting my flipping a few config switches? I'm runn

Re: "Stale" jigdo files

2007-03-30 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri March 30 2007 21:04, Clayborne Arevalo wrote: > Please BCC me as I'm not subscribed to the list. > > I'm trying to download the DVD installer images for AMD64 via jigdo > using the templates available at > cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/amd64/jigdo-cd/ I just built those DVD's for i

slrn crash -- froze everything

2007-03-30 Thread Tyler Smith
A couple weeks ago I had a problem while using slrn, with an error wriitng to file after I tried to exit. The input/output error messages I got suggested a hard drive problem, but that came to nothing. The whole thing was discussed in another thread here. A few days ago I tried to start slrn with

Re: riped dvd menu

2007-03-30 Thread gustavo halperin
Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:35:33AM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: Thank you, but I'm not sure about K9copy, first K9copy is KDE depend and I prefer don't install programs that are KDE based (also Gnome based to), second looks like K9copy use dvdauthor for the menu iss

Re: Any wares to calculate the world time for me?

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:53:53PM +0800, Zhengquan Zhang mailing list wrote: > I use kworldclock to see what the time now is at another place in the world. > But what should I use to see what time is at another place at a future time? Head? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: What do I use to reconfigure the network /after/ initial install on Etch?

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:47:43PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 17:07 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > And WHY should Debian "care" about missing Manpages? > > > > It is the Upstream which should provide Documentation for tools > > otherwise they will be useless. I see i

Re: how to print unicode encoded file to ps

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:07:46PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Jan, > > Am 2007-03-16 18:03:22, schrieb Jan Willem Stumpel: > > This will work if you have a Unicode-aware TeX, but why so > > complicated? paps (apt-get install paps, in Etch since April last > > year) just allows you to s

"Stale" jigdo files

2007-03-30 Thread Clayborne Arevalo
Please BCC me as I'm not subscribed to the list. I'm trying to download the DVD installer images for AMD64 via jigdo using the templates available at cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/amd64/jigdo-cd/ However I've found that the .jigdo files reference a number of .deb packages which are no l

Re: how to print unicode encoded file to ps

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:07:25PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Am 2007-03-16 10:22:16, schrieb Douglas Allan Tutty: > > Have you tried LaTex? Sure a .tex file starts with a preamble but you > > could have two files head.tex (preamble) and tail.tex (nd{document}). > > Then cat h

Re: Motherboard recommendations

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:09:23AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > I just built a system with an ASUS M2N2-SLI motherboard and an AMD64 > cpu. It looks very good so far. I have Etch running from a netinst. > > The ASUS installation CD contains a directory for Linux giving links to > several web

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Raquel
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:06:45 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/30/07 18:11, Seth Goodman wrote: > > > > Most people who know what they're doing don't insist that the > > rest of the world changes its behavior on something that is not > > important. > > We're not insisting that

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 18:11, Seth Goodman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 5:50 PM -0500: > >> And the counter argument would be that not-munging-Reply-To has >> always been popular amongst people who know what they are doing. > > Most peop

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: > > If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is > better and has fewer security holes because , > *THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD. > Windows *is* better, since Microsoft reports much fewer bugs th

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure >>system than Windows, but there are probably still security holes >>lurking that nobody (at least, no honest person) has

Re: dell computer construction

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:12:37PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Dell is the only computer I've had the pleasure to break down for reuse > and recycling that has its hard drive close to the bottom of the front > panel screwed onto that panel from the outside with the cabling into the > drive ins

Re: javaldx failed.

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:11:54PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > mozilla & openoffice wont start. > > netinst of Etch worked perfectly with all hardware working, internet > accessible from console, xorg.conf ok, gdm and icewm ok, but > > mozilla start from default fails, openoffice start

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:32:38PM EST, John C wrote: > > > >>``Microsoft Tax''. > > > >without "representation" .. > > > >So when's our Boston Tea Party? > > > > It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. > > "Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass*" > > :-) You're good .. :-) N

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:02:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jim Hyslop writes: > > It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a > > warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough > > people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of pa

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:14:44PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > Paul Walsh wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 2:23 AM -0600: > > > Seth Goodman wrote: > > > > > Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call > > > to tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there ar

dell computer construction

2007-03-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
Dell is the only computer I've had the pleasure to break down for reuse and recycling that has its hard drive close to the bottom of the front panel screwed onto that panel from the outside with the cabling into the drive inserted into the drive from below the bottom edge of the drive. You don'

javaldx failed.

2007-03-30 Thread Thomas H. George
mozilla & openoffice wont start. netinst of Etch worked perfectly with all hardware working, internet accessible from console, xorg.conf ok, gdm and icewm ok, but mozilla start from default fails, openoffice start fails with internal error message. The .xsesseion-error file ends with me

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-30 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 13:45 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > It can take a while for a newish Debian user to get used to the Debian way. > My preference is to stay somewhat 'behind the curve', but yours appears to > be to stay somewhat 'ahead of the curve'. Yes, somewhat, though I tend to think of

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > can get. Economics notwithstanding, the food is still double-danged delicious! That's what counts to me. I like 'soul'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:51:16AM EST, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:57:02 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/30/07 08:23, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500 > > > John Hasler <[EMAIL

Re: update to latest etch caused multiple problems - can't boot, no sound

2007-03-30 Thread John Lee
Thanks for your help, Florian. Actually the system dropped me to the ash because it cannot mount root. I tried it for quite a while before I used the old initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686.bak and I'm pretty sure all the modules are still there (I did modprobe sd_mod). The linux-image is not updated this ti

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John C
``Microsoft Tax''. without "representation" .. So when's our Boston Tea Party? It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. "Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass*" :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: deleting content of /tmp

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:40:01PM +, andy wrote: > > Can someone advise me on the pros and cons of deleting the contents of > /tmp/ as part of general security conscious non-paranoia. I was thinking > that it would be an okay thing to do periodically (or at logout, etc.) > using a overwrit

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: > The CDDL (used by OpenSolaris) is a license that is accepted as > doubtlessly free by the OSS community. ... but GPL incompatible: From http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) This is

Re: Looking for password manager

2007-03-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:56:18AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I am in the process of moving from Win 2k to Linux. > > On Win I have a great little program named RoboForm that > manages my passwords for IE and FireFox and also fills in > forms with my personal information when

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the > Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Dell's price) > > Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the > > equilibrium price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if > > I'm willing to pay a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is > > low, competition should driv

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > John Hasler wrote: > > Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware > > vendors ship it (not that I care all that much). > attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust an

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-30 Thread Freddy Freeloader
anoop aryal wrote: On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:55, Steve Lamb wrote: anoop aryal wrote: i'll take etch when it's good and ready and not a day before. i'd rather have a working OS, free of bugs, late than a half baked, bug-ridden POS, on time. Then you'll be waiting forever

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:00:48PM EST, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > > can get. Tells you

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 18:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Okay guys, > > so, just to calm down, > > I never told you what to do. I just faced twice the problem of answering > to the wrong addressee, and I saw that it happens sometimes to others. I > listened to

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:01:41AM EST, Max Hyre wrote: >Dear Debianistas: > > John Hasler wrote: > > The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a fixed fee for > > every machine he ships rather than for every copy of > > Microsoft Windows he ships. This makes sense when nearly > > every machin

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I > understand it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's definitely ;) > not totally secure - nothing made by humans could be. So, do you mean unfortunately :( > that there's no n

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 5:50 PM -0500: > And the counter argument would be that not-munging-Reply-To has > always been popular amongst people who know what they are doing. Most people who know what they're doing don't insist that the rest of the world changes its behavior on s

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
CaT writes: > FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux > based. > ... > I've just got the actual CDs that I've poked around. Does it include source? If not did you receive a written offer to provide it? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread galevsky
Okay guys, so, just to calm down, I never told you what to do. I just faced twice the problem of answering to the wrong addressee, and I saw that it happens sometimes to others. I listened to your proposal of using a MUA, then argued that it was not suiting my needs. (I don't think just about me

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 16:50, Seth Goodman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 4:42 PM -0500: > >> On 03/30/07 16:33, Seth Goodman wrote: >>> That's a large enough hurdle that I think it safe to say the horse >>> has left the barn on this one a

Re: Bread

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 16:55, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 15:51 -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Joe Hart writes: >>> Which country is this? Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap. >> I'm in the US. I suspect that we are talking about a dif

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
All* rechargable AA batteries are 1.2v whilst normal AA batteries are 1.5v. How embarrassing. I guess the battery was just broken then. There are a lot of other arguments against Sony still. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Paul Walsh wrote: > Passed to me by a colleague: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm > > *grin* > That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Fernando Cacciola wrote: > Hi All > > I just installed Debian Sarge from a 1-year old netinst CD on a HP > Pavillion 1125LA notebook. > > Then I run apt-get dist-upgrade. > > What do I have now then? Still Sarge? 3.0, 3.1? > The third field in /etc/apt/sources.list will tell you which distrib

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:11:06AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > tech support folks stop saying 'but you need to use windows for us to > > > diagnose the problem before we can authorizes this' or similar. > > > > FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux > > based. > >

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:13:44AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > > > software would be to ship each

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 06:49:35PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > quality), and I tried again. Then with a better recharger. I eventually gave > up and put the batteries away. One year later, I looked at the batteries and > realized why they did not work. > They were Sony batteries. O

Re: Bread

2007-03-30 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 15:51 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Joe Hart writes: > > Which country is this? Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap. > > I'm in the US. I suspect that we are talking about a different company. Aldi is from Northern Europe, which country exactly escapes me at the mo

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 4:42 PM -0500: > On 03/30/07 16:33, Seth Goodman wrote: > > That's a large enough hurdle that I think it safe to say the horse > > has left the barn on this one a long time ago. Continuing to insist > > that things _should_ have been different, long pas

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting... This reminds me of restaurants. I like the small, family food ones 10 times better than the expensive ones. I prefer tasty food over fancy food that t

Re: [OT] bread prices and economics

2007-03-30 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 30 March 2007 14:05, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > The bottom line is that if the cost is the same or lower (the > assumption of the OP, because less processing is done), then given > perfect competition, the price should b

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 16:33, Seth Goodman wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 3:31 PM -0500: > >> The whole fact that "majority" of other mailing lists and their users >> does not know about this does not mean it's useless. > > You

Re: Bread

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: > I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi > carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting... We've found quite a few things at Aldi's that are not of acceptable quality. Canned mushroom soup comes to mind. If we could af

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:46, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 15:09 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> It's like using MSFT. If all you've ever known is a buggy malware- >> filled OS, and you've been conditioned to grab your ankles, crying >> "Thank

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 3:31 PM -0500: > The whole fact that "majority" of other mailing lists and their users > does not know about this does not mean it's useless. You mean it _could_ be useful if most others went along, which they haven't. There are a lot of thi

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > > >>> Ron Johnson writes: > > We buy the cheapest *whole* w

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:52, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: >> >> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly >> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to >> close, I'll never know. > > For the same

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John K Masters
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:31 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that > >> doesn't taste like crumbly cardbo

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:52:14PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this "diamond" > substance? What is it for? > > Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the > precise reason that it is hard to get.

Re: Bread

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Joe Hart writes: > Which country is this? Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap. I'm in the US. I suspect that we are talking about a different company. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid > people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you > can get. > The same can be said of barbacoa (originally a Mexican peasant food), paella (origin

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:02:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 29 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:36:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> He's probably referring to the executive order signed on 7 Feb, > >> 2002. In it, W claims the authority

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to close, I'll never know. For the same reason people want SUVs. For the same reason women like gold and diamond. For the same reason people want brand clo

Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

2007-03-30 Thread Bruno Buys
Joerg Schilling wrote: From time to time I grab a diferent OS to install and try my hands at it. This time was OpenSolaris. The thing is, at some point in the install, OpenSolaris throws a license at my face that doesn't seem open at all. I can run the software, but I can't redistribute, copy,

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 15:09 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 14:09, Seth Goodman wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 9:06 AM -0500: > >> On 03/30/07 08:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> I am forwarding previous answers and adding that I do not want > >>> to pop these

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like cr

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > I wrote: >> See? You're picky. > > Ron Johnson writes: >> Taste pickiness !=

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: > We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell > off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way > at Aldi. My wife shops at Aldi's. It's an interesting company. Most retailers are terrified of WalMart but Aldi's deliberately

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like crumbly cardboard. I wrote: > See? You're picky. Ron Johnson writes: > Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like to pretend it > is.) Didn't say it was. However, if the ch

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On 03/30/07 08:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I am forwarding previous answers and adding that I do not want > > > to pop these mails since I suscribed lots of ML, not only debian > > > ones, and it is more convenient for me to read&write from gmail > > > than poping 3 times (work - hom

Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: >>> Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the loca

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 14:43, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] >> It's just as bad as people moving into a country and then telling the >> natives to modify their culture to suit them. It should be the other >> way around. > > Now that's an invitat

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 14:09, Seth Goodman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 9:06 AM -0500: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/30/07 08:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I am forwarding previous answers and ad

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 14:43, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > > It's just as bad as people moving into a country and then telling the > natives to modify their culture to suit them. It should be the other > way around. Now that's an invitation to a 10 week OT thread-

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > > > See? Y

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:21:34PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: >> The OP could have presented his request differently, but I don't think >> a binary answer in the spirit of "love it or leave it" is particularly >> helpful. The method

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 14:11, Joe Hart wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote: >> [snip] >>> Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless >> This a flame war? > >>> whether one things that google has become a mo

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't >> taste like crumbly cardboard. > > See? You're picky. Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like t

RE: Debian Exim SPF howto?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby <> wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 2:21 AM -0500: > Hi, > Would you know any SPF+Debian+Exim tutorial? Exim has native support for SPF starting with version 4.52, but the Debian version has removed it. I believe that was based on a library that was written before t

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seth Goodman wrote: > Joe Hart wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 11:53 AM -0500: > >> All you are doing is rehashing an argument that has taken place over >> and over. You don't like the list, then unsubscribe. Simple. > > The OP could have presented

Re: Bread (was: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest > in dark bread her French roommates were appalled that she would want to eat > peasant food. Interesting. A friend's father served in the German army duri

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:49, John Hasler wrote: > Greg Folkert writes: >> Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white >> bread]. > > When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest > in dark bread her French r

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:21:34PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > > The OP could have presented his request differently, but I don't think > a binary answer in the spirit of "love it or leave it" is particularly > helpful. The method of handling Reply-To: in this mailing list is in > the minority,

Re: post Header update probs with KDE apps

2007-03-30 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:34:28 +0100, andy wrote: > Hiya > > The software update installed new headers, etc. today and instructed me to > reboot in order to load up new modules, even though the header was the same > as my existing header (I'm sorry this is not clearer - I'd just stumbled out

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 13:51, Jim Hyslop wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus >> products. > > I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand > it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still,

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Joe Hart wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 11:53 AM -0500: > All you are doing is rehashing an argument that has taken place over > and over. You don't like the list, then unsubscribe. Simple. The OP could have presented his request differently, but I don't think a binary answer in the spirit of

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Jim Hyslop writes: > It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a > warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough > people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of paying > twice - once to MS and once to the consumer. As far as I can

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't > taste like crumbly cardboard. See? You're picky. Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full stop. > Look at the ingredients list of white bread and whole wheat bread. Just did (though we don

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:49:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 11:10, dave wrote: > > on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:50:55AM -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> So you shoot the possibly-wounded Iraqi? > > > > If he's in the way, and others are shooting at you. > > I can already hear Arnt

Re: update to latest etch caused multiple problems - can't boot, no sound

2007-03-30 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 14:13:12 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 20:05 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > My guess is that some sound(-related) module from the old initrd does > > not work properly with the new kernel. I would not spend time trying to > > get sound to work until yo

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] >> Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless > > This a flame war? > >> whether one things that google has become a monopoly or not. > > But I see you're tr

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-30 Thread Seth Goodman
Ron Johnson wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 9:06 AM -0500: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/07 08:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am forwarding previous answers and adding that I do not want > > to pop these mails since I suscribed lots of ML, not only debian

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: > Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white > bread]. When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest in dark bread her French roommates were appalled that she would want to eat peasant food. > Think for instance, trying t

xen, raid and initramfs failure

2007-03-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hi guys, I've encountered a problem with my xen/raid setup. My etch box has / on raid 1. When booting either 2.6.18-3 or -4 I get an error when /scripts/local-top/mdadm runs: (paraphrasing) Failure: failed to load Module 0 no such module Failure: failed to load Module 1 no such module Failure: fa

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Seth Goodman writes: > As far as separating hardware from software issues, the suggestion of a > live CD for hardware diagnostics is a good one. Unfortunately, when an > unsophisticated user calls, you still have to spend time convincing them > to run the hardware diagnostic CD first, and that cos

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