Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Curt Howland wrote: > As much as I hate to nit-pick, because it's obvious your heart is in > the right place, Mr. Johnson, there is a very serious disconnect > between the term "privatization" (or deregulation) and the reality of > continued government intervention. In the interest of helpi

Re: Debian DVD autostart from boot DOS prompt

2006-05-02 Thread Willie Wonka
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > > Once I boot up with a floppy and get to a DOS prompt, what file or > > command do I use from the command prompt to get the Debian DVD > > (number one) to start installing on this computer??? > > > > > > > Most sincerely,

Re: What is Top-Post???

2006-05-02 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Please explain to me what top-post is?? http://www.hinterlands.org/gllugfaq/#id2466109 Regards -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam & anti-virus Consultant| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | filtering. Inoculate antibodymx.net | m: +4745888

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > [1] For 100 years ago. It's too bad we haven't bothered to keep up with the > world on this, Americans now get fewer days off, work more hours and at lower > pay than most of the western world. And amazingly enough we have lower unemployment and are still the driving e

Thanks and done...

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Done... Thanks... Most sincerely, Dan "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live" - John 3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE -Original Mess

Re: IC

2006-05-02 Thread Kent West
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > I will try to do it that way from now on... thanks for the tip... See enclosed .jpg. Example of top-posting -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What is the dd command ???

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:19:16PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > What is the dd command and how does it work??? I've never heard of it??? Dan, I'm getting mixed signals about what you are doing here, so bear with me. In an earlier post you mentioned booting to a DOS prompt. In another you menti

Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:49:13PM -0400, Matt Price wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm having a problem with hard crashes on my box (sid, not quite up to > date). They seem to happen in a variety of circumstances -- the > computer locks hard in an X session (running xfce4 usually) and is > inaccessible

Re: CCing responses and signature

2006-05-02 Thread Kent West
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > I don't really cc anyone, it's MS Outlook, I click the reply to all > button, otherwise it only replies to you and not the list... > I would suspect that you could then simply delete the individual's email from the To: line to avoid CC:ing that individual. -- K

IC

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
IC... interesting... I've already taught myself to go to the bottom of a post or email and start reading... or maybe it was automatic since that's the way it's always worked... as a matter of fact a lot of organizations who render tech support request that you include all previous

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 22:40, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Portland, Oregon is a great argument against privatization of > critical infrastructure.  For the longest time, it was the poster > child of privatization, with Portlan

CCing responses and signature

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Well I was hoping that you wouldn't say that... it won't boot from the DVD... I think that it's because the BIOS is so old... I'm glad that you like the new sig... I don't really cc anyone, it's MS Outlook, I click the reply to all button, otherwise it only replies to you a

Almost 3000 Debian Newsgroups

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
That one worked... there are almost 3000 Debian groups... Quite a few... I found an awesome group for newbies like me with over 2860 messages... There is also a group for kernel newbies with 15,743 messages... WOW... If you want a good MS newsgroup and you probably already know this one, news.m

Re: What is Top-Post???

2006-05-02 Thread Kent West
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Please explain to me what top-post is??? > It's when your reply to an email is at the very top of the message. It's just backwards from the way you read everything else in the world (in English, that is), and is largely the result of Microsoft email clients (Outlook, O

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please explain to me why schooling must be treated differently from food > clothing and medical care. Really, explain it. If a parent neglects > his or her child, the child suffers. This is no different. Your > argument is like saying that bec

What is the dd command ???

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
What is the dd command and how does it work??? I've never heard of it??? Most sincerely, Dan "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not peris

Re: Request for statistics

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 08:51:50PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Anyone out there have an archive of all the d-u traffic going to back to > 1 April and a MUA that facilitates quickly counting the number of > messages in a thread. Or maybe all the messages in an mbox or IMAP > account where th

What is Top-Post???

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Please explain to me what top-post is??? Most sincerely, "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live" - John 3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 05:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:27:46PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Matthias Julius wrote: > > > themselfes. Then a while later when they are upset or drunk they find > > > they have a gun handy and do harm somebody else. > > > > Presumably

tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-02 Thread Matt Price
Hi folks, I'm having a problem with hard crashes on my box (sid, not quite up to date). They seem to happen in a variety of circumstances -- the computer locks hard in an X session (running xfce4 usually) and is inaccessible by ssh or any other. If amarok is running at the time it will sound as

Re: dhcpcd loses IP address after update [debian unstable]

2006-05-02 Thread Jan Scheffczyk
you probably have isntalled the zeroconf package. If you don't need it, you can purge it and thatll probably solve your issue. It did :- Thanks so much, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please explain quote and trim...

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:36:25AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West: > > > > I think that should about sum it up for you. Intersperse your comments > > where relevant. snip out irrelevant stuff and then bottom post > > everything else. > > Generally this is a good idea, but Ou

Re: automount usbdisk , hardisk or cdrom in gnome 2.14

2006-05-02 Thread Surachai Locharoen
On อ., 2006-05-02 at 19:28 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 23:52:41 +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: > > I install gnome 2.14. When I insert usbdisk or cdrom, there is no > > automount action take place. I can mount mannually from command line. > > > > However I can't manua

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 13:17, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>Again, the problem is that the lack of a profit motive hampers > >> efficiency. > > > > Is there no other way to create a motive other than money? > > There are

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:13, Curt Howland wrote: > gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: eof > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, now for some numbers based in reality. My alma mater... > > Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. > > Total spending, federal state and local, divided b

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 22:55, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > You directly benefit (even without kids) by being surrounded by > > (relatively) educated people. Just like freeways: While bicycles may be > > allowed on most of them, odds are bicyclists are paying for miles of > >

Re: dhcpcd loses IP address after update [debian unstable]

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:37:56PM -0700, Jan Scheffczyk wrote: > Hi, > > I am running debian unstable and just upgraded the system. > I use dhcpcd (2.0.3) as DHCP client, which worked fine until the update. > > So, now I dhcpcd gets everything from the DHCP server but seems to > forget it almos

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:48, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Do you have any stats or figures or studies to back up what you are > saying? The only thing I can think of that is frequently done by > municipalities is local power monopolies. Portland, Oregon is a great argument against privatization

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21:26, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Deregulating the telco industry and breaking up Bell was the worst > thing we could have done in this case. There was no "de"-regulation. The "baby" bells retained the

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 20:01, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:51:56PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > > I think a community should provide its members with the basic > > necessities to have a human-like live and to have chance to improve > > it. This requires education, housi

dhcpcd loses IP address after update [debian unstable]

2006-05-02 Thread Jan Scheffczyk
Hi, I am running debian unstable and just upgraded the system. I use dhcpcd (2.0.3) as DHCP client, which worked fine until the update. So, now I dhcpcd gets everything from the DHCP server but seems to forget it almost immediately (it then falls back to some IPv4 link-local address). Here is

Can't login anymore since an update

2006-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello group, Since I did an update of my Debian Etch system, I cannot login with my normal user. root was not allowed to login through gdm so I modified it to let root login. root works fine with gdm and startx. As a test, I create a user and tried to log with this user through gdm and startx. Thi

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 18:28, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Clearly, because Debian is developed by individual volunteers (SPI > is just an umbrella organization there for legal purposes), it is > one of the best.  Likew

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 23:29, Mike McCarty wrote: > I prefer sales taxes to consumption taxes for a few reasons: But sales tax is a consumption tax, and just as regressive for all the same reasons... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time t

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 10:16, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > I don't see how a profit oriented business could be social. How would > > you enable people from the lower end of society to get their children > > educated? > > I don't enable them. They enable themselves. Plea

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:36, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Do either of you two have any real-world  experience with co-ops?   > > Yes.  I have health insurance and insurance on my automobile and my > home.  Those are all essentially co-ops. No, that's not a co-op, that's legalized gambling in th

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:43, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > "Matthew R. Dempsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>I can understand that viewpoint, but I still dislike the premise that > >>they can be provided only be the government itself. If the government > >>must involve

setiathome package needs to be removed from archives

2006-05-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
the setiathome package is out of date to the point that it can no longer connect to its web site to download and build the tar file that used to be provided. The software has been updated so that many other projects can also take advantage of common computer power the same way setiathome did a

Request for statistics

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Anyone out there have an archive of all the d-u traffic going to back to 1 April and a MUA that facilitates quickly counting the number of messages in a thread. Or maybe all the messages in an mbox or IMAP account where they can be scanned with a script? Specifically, I am interseted to know: Ho

Re: escape a string literal for use with regex?

2006-05-02 Thread David Purton
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 05:22:34PM -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:34:19AM +0930, David Purton wrote: > > > I ended up using fgrep, which if I had read the grep manual I would have > > found does what I want (Blush). > > > > This works well: > > > > # subject kil

Re: escape a string literal for use with regex?

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:34:19AM +0930, David Purton wrote: > I ended up using fgrep, which if I had read the grep manual I would have > found does what I want (Blush). > > This works well: > > # subject kill file > SUBJECT=`formail -zxSubject:` > :0: > * ? fgrep -qx "$SUBJECT" $HOME/.mutt.

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 02 May 2006 20:11:50 -0400 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>Cybe R. Wizard -;-] > >> [...] > > My mistake on Libranet. The whole thing was supposed to come off > with a bit of sarcasm. I guess it fell short. > > -Roberto Not at all; see my smiley? Cybe R. Wiza

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 02 May 2006 18:43:17 -0400 > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > > [...] > >>>Why Ubuntu? Because it's a /new/ Debian, a /better/ Debian? >>> >>>Cybe R. Wizard -;-] >> >>No. Because it is developed by Canonical L

Re: escape a string literal for use with regex?

2006-05-02 Thread David Purton
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:09:30AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > At 1146586566 past the epoch, David Purton wrote: > > How can I escape a string literal easily for use as a regex with grep? > > If you feed it through perl, you can enclose the suspect string with \Q > and \E. Here's an excerpt from a

Problem in mkinitrd...

2006-05-02 Thread Fawad Nazir
Hi All, I am trying to create a ramdisk image using mkinitrd command. But i get the following problem. I will be thankful for any help in this regard. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot$ sudo mkinitrd -o /initrd.img-2.6.16 2.6.16 find: warning: you have specified the -mindepth option after a non-option arg

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 02 May 2006 18:43:17 -0400 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: [...] > > > > Why Ubuntu? Because it's a /new/ Debian, a /better/ Debian? > > > > Cybe R. Wizard -;-] > > No. Because it is developed by Canonical Ltd., a corporation, which > was t

Re: News Readers

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:39:46PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Am I doing a better job of pruning??? > That newsgroup address didn't work either... says that it can't find > the server... > What would I type into the address bar to get to it, the url??? > So far I'm u

upgrading gnome-desktop-environment broke via82xx sound

2006-05-02 Thread B. Bogart
Hey all, I'm running debian sarge (i386) with a couple unstable/testing packages on an AMD64. I had sound working fine on my via82xx with the same kernel (2.6.13-ck5) under oss before upgrading gnome. All I did today was change my gnome-desktop-environment to testing (etch) as it was buggy with m

Re: Looks like it worked

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > It looks like it worked... it looks like it formatted the disk, but > it still says that the file floppy.img (1.4MB) is still too large to put on > it... > Hm... any ideas??? Are you using the dd command? If so, exactly what command did you use and what

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Here is a smaller sig... sorry... I didn't mean to annoy anyone... > Most sincerely, > > "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that > whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting li

Looks like it worked

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
It looks like it worked... it looks like it formatted the disk, but it still says that the file floppy.img (1.4MB) is still too large to put on it... Hm... any ideas??? Most sincerely, "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only b

Re: Please explain quote and trim...

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
please see how I've done this below and all should be clear... On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:23:24PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Please explain how quote and trim works... happy to oblige. > Most sincerely, Dan, you're so polite. > > "For GOD so LOV

Re: Debian DVD autostart from boot DOS prompt

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:15:04PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Once I boot up with a floppy and get to a DOS prompt, what file or > command do I use from the command prompt to get the Debian DVD (number one) > to start installing on this computer??? First, have you read http://www.debia

Thanks for the help...

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Thank you... that will help cut down on the signature size also, because I can use a different, much smaller sig in express... Most sincerely, Dan "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his o

Please explain quote and trim...

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Please explain how quote and trim works... Most sincerely, "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live" - John 3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE -Original Message

RE: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Here is a smaller sig... sorry... I didn't mean to annoy anyone... Most sincerely, "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live" - John 3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE

Re: Debian DVD autostart from boot DOS prompt

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Once I boot up with a floppy and get to a DOS prompt, what file or > command do I use from the command prompt to get the Debian DVD (number one) > to start installing on this computer??? > > > Most sincerely, >

Debian DVD autostart from boot DOS prompt

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Once I boot up with a floppy and get to a DOS prompt, what file or command do I use from the command prompt to get the Debian DVD (number one) to start installing on this computer??? These are the files on the DVD: Root directory: Folders: Debian Dis

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-02 Thread charles norwood
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 07:25 +0200, Marcel Stoop wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 23:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:08 -0700, charles norwood wrote: > > > Hi List. > > > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > > > OT discussions. > > > > I

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-02 Thread charles norwood
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 23:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:08 -0700, charles norwood wrote: > > Hi List. > > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > > OT discussions. > > IIRC, there is no Delete Thread is Evo 2.0.4 (which is a pretty > anci

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-02 Thread charles norwood
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 23:15 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > charles norwood wrote: > > Hi List. > > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > > OT discussions. > > TIA, > > Chuck > > Out of curiousity, are you running your own mail server? You can do > server s

Re: LDAP: ultrapossum-server or slapd?

2006-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 5/2/06, Gezim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all :) I'm completely new to LDAP and the whole directory services thing. What I want to do is have evolution calendar (for example) and egroupware calendar synchronize automatically. So, I heard that I could allow LDAP to be the storage syst

Re: Debian DVD autostart

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 05:28:05PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: [...] > on the floppy and that file sbm.bin was too large to copy to the floppy... > also, I can't format the floppy... it mounts the floppy fine... it won't > format any floppy... so far as I know, you can't format a mounted flopp

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 02 May 2006 16:32:47 -0400 > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > >>Always evil: SUSE, Novell, JDS, Red Hat, Mandriva, Ubuntu >> > > [...] > >>The last line speaks for itself. > > > Why Ubuntu? Because it's a /new/ Debian, a /better/

RE: Debian DVD autostart

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
I'm using outlook express as the newreader and it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... Thanks, I'll keep trying... Optiplex GX110's are regular workstations... They are nothing like DELL's PowerEdge servers... I apologize, by drag-n-drop I mean that while in Debian (Konqu

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: >>> >>>- they are selling more than before >>>- it is costing *more* to get the oil out of the ground >> >> >> I doubt this cost has gone up 50% in the last year. >> > So what? It is a free market. If there is more dema

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: >> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>>Then that's what you would do with private education. >> >> >> I thought you were suggesting home schooling. >> > Either private education or homeschool. Either

Re: Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 02 May 2006 16:32:47 -0400 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Always evil: SUSE, Novell, JDS, Red Hat, Mandriva, Ubuntu > [...] > > The last line speaks for itself. Why Ubuntu? Because it's a /new/ Debian, a /better/ Debian? Cybe R. Wizard -;-] -- Press 'STA

getting OOo to use Firefox

2006-05-02 Thread Rick Reynolds
As indicated in another thread, I've recently switched to Enlightenment from Gnome due to the keyboard mapping bug (I'm still going to test out a workaround, but I need to get work done in the meantime...) I'm finding out that gnome was doing a good amount of linkage for me. In particular, I

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Thanks, > I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not > lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... > I'll keep trying... If you're doing gmane.org, it's gmane.linux.debian.user Once you attempt your first p

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:34:33PM +0200, Martin A. Brooks wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in > >your emails to this list. > > Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list > email ;) point well take

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in your emails to this list. Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list email ;) -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam & anti-virus Consultant

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Thanks, > I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not > lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... > I'll keep trying... > Most sincerely, with all due respect, you m

View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... I'll keep trying... Most sincerely, Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty or

Re: where does grub put the MBR?

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to know *for sure* where grub puts the MBR? (No setup > command) > Well the MBR, is always in the same place. It is *always* the first 512 bytes on the physical disk. Now, what I think you want to ask is, "where does grub install itself?" As to

where does grub put the MBR?

2006-05-02 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Is there a way to know *for sure* where grub puts the MBR? (No setup command) /grub/device.map has: hd0=/dev/hda hd1=/dev/sda and menu.lst has: = # default 2 # timeout 5 # Pretty colours color cyan/blue white/blu

Re: keeping the same packages on multiple machines

2006-05-02 Thread Wackojacko
Digby Tarvin wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:13:15PM +0200, Christoph Bier wrote: Adam Black schrieb am 02.05.2006 17:44: Hi I am running a P4 desktop and a centrino notebook with Debian sid and I wanted to know what the best way is to keep the same set of packages installed on both machine

Re: sata sucks

2006-05-02 Thread Wackojacko
> How did you get the fan? I emailed them via their UK website and they just sent me one. Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Wulfy
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Wulfy wrote: Hmm... and who pays for this "foster-schooling"? The state? Just like they do now with food and clothes. I had a friend who was a foster parent for several years. He and his wife have taken in many kids over the years. Basically, he said it went li

Re: How to save or archive updates downloaded after a CDROM Sarge installation?

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Keith Christian wrote: > Hi Folks, > > My first post to a Debian list. Glad to be here. > > Scenario: Sarge is from CD #1 on a machine with an internet connection. At > the end of the base install, the installer downloads security and other > updates from a Debian mirror. > > Question: Suppo

Steering back on topic [Was: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Mike Bird wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 09:08, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >>Matthias Julius wrote: >> >>>Is there no way of improving this? There were examples of public >>>schools brought up in this thread that actually do work. >>> >> >>Again, the problem is that the lack of a profit motive h

Merging dirs with (almost) same name

2006-05-02 Thread Magnus Therning
I find myself with directory hierarchies that have been created on Windows (case insensitive, but case preserving) that I want to process on a Linux machine (ext2/3 FS, which is case sensitive). Due to different reasons, one being stupidity of others, I have trees where the same directory has been

How to save or archive updates downloaded after a CDROM Sarge installation?

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Christian
Hi Folks, My first post to a Debian list. Glad to be here. Scenario: Sarge is from CD #1 on a machine with an internet connection. At the end of the base install, the installer downloads security and other updates from a Debian mirror. Question: Suppose that I wanted to archive the updates o

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >>Again, the problem is that the lack of a profit motive hampers efficiency. > > > Is there no other way to create a motive other than money? > There are other ways. Profit, however, is provably the most effective.

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 09:08, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > Is there no way of improving this? There were examples of public > > schools brought up in this thread that actually do work. > > > Again, the problem is that the lack of a profit motive hampers efficiency. And t

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > >>Please repeay after me, "It is not the government's responsibility >>to be a nanny." People need to take responsibility for themselves >>and their own actions. The abrogation of personal responsibility is >>one of the greatest travesties of the 20th century. > > > Yo

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Wulfy wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> Matthias Julius wrote: >> >> >>> I'm afraid it would not work without it. Do you want to base the >>> education of children who's parents can not afford to pay for the >>> education of their kids on voluntary redistribution of wealth, on >>> charity

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: >> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>>The problem is that public schools are very wasteful. >> >> >> Is there no way of improving this? There were examples of public >> schools brought up in this

Re: xorg upgrade error

2006-05-02 Thread Tim
Andrew Nelson wrote: > Hope this helps > That worked perfectly, thank you very much Andy. -- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > I don't enable them. They enable themselves. Right. If everyone takes caro of himself everyone is taken care of. > Please repeay after me, "It is not the government's responsibility > to be a nanny." People need to

/etc/printcap problem

2006-05-02 Thread Ramasubramanian Ramesh
I bought a new brother (HL5250DN) printer and wanted to hook it up using its 10/100 network port. It needs a speical filter (if=xxx) to run. But I can't get to use filter and remote print simultaneously. If put the following in /etc/printcap if=filter:\ rm=printer:\ rp=port then it does not use

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Wulfy
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Matthias Julius wrote: I'm afraid it would not work without it. Do you want to base the education of children who's parents can not afford to pay for the education of their kids on voluntary redistribution of wealth, on charity? Or how do you think it should be pai

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > AFAIK in all Europe small firearms are prohibited from the general > public. And I don't think it is a problem there. Hardly any police > officer died on his job over there neither. _The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy_, David B. Kopel. He

Re: minimum APM kernel settings to shut off power?

2006-05-02 Thread Vincent Smeets
Hallo, This is going to be some kind of FAQ. I had the same problem. No combination of settings for AMP were working and ACPI wasn't loaded (Sarge) at startup. I noticed at the start of dmesg some reports about that my BIOS was too old (1999 < 2001). That was the reason that ACPI wasn't load

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 12:11, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > How many people needed their gun for self defence?  Did you?  And > how many people used their gun to harm others?  Do you know of any > such statistics? Yes. _Mor

Re: rerunning autodetect

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:22:10AM -0500, Mark Tilford wrote: > On 5/2/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 05:45:28 -0500, Mark Tilford wrote: > >> /sbin/ifconfig only lists loopback. > >> lspci | grep Ethernet yields nothing. > >> The card is a 3c509. > > >

Re: manually purge .deb file

2006-05-02 Thread erchamion . beren
thank you for help, but /var/lib/dpkg/status file did the trick, i remove the related lines. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:50, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > The idea is that everyone contributes according to his > abilities and people benefit who need it.  Contributors and > beneficiaries are usually not the same. Why n

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Matthias Julius
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 01 May 2006 21:02, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: >> The same is true for drugs and other controlled substances.  Would >> you vote making them freely available? > > At every opportunity. If you don't approve, then don'

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-02 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 07:03, John O'Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > To my > mind, capitalism is the the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time and > one of the greatest threats to personal freedom; it makes no sense > to remove other impedime

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