Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

2020-12-10 Thread Bill Abbott
I still haven't forgiven them for what they did to Sun. Bill On 12/10/20 2:44 PM, Jon Tegner wrote: On 12/10/20 10:55 AM, Jon Tegner wrote: What about https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ Regards, /jon Possibly a good option - if I didn't trust Oracle even less than IBM.  I wonder if

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2020-12-10 Thread Chris Samuel
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Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 13:05:25 +, you wrote: >A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start >soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the repositories and >start my own testing etc. Not trying to discourage you, but doing a Linux fork regardles

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

2020-12-10 Thread Jan Wender
Hi, I work in industry (CAE) where about 95% of all workloads are binary only (exception is OpenFOAM, but even this is at some customers procured as binary from a supplier). The software is certified for RHEL, and mostly also for SuSE. Cluster sizes are usually confidential but range in several

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

2020-12-10 Thread Jon Tegner
On 12/10/20 10:55 AM, Jon Tegner wrote: What about https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ Regards, /jon Possibly a good option - if I didn't trust Oracle even less than IBM.  I wonder if ElRepo will work that the Oracle distro? RH has removed a lot of hardware support lately and for some

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
When I've had RHEL and the support that came with it, I've only used it a few times, and believe the response every time was a "won't fix". Always made me wonder what we were paying for in the first place. Prentice On 12/9/20 5:44 PM, Lance Wilson via Beowulf wrote: Rolling is not ideal when y

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
I have had the same experience as you, but we represent only 2 data points in a large market. I think many decision-makers like to pay for support as a form of "insurance" for when the s**t hits the fan and system goes terribly wrong. I have worked at a couple of different places that paid for

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

2020-12-10 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
I've added some comments on LWN - but it may be a tough day for HPC. That is the last market segement I can see that is tied to RPM as a "thing@ Actually, I think the opposite is true. HPC clusters are usually walled-off computing environments, where *most* of the software being run on them is

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2020-12-10 Thread Dernat Rémy
Hi, I moved the small local clusters to ubuntu last year and I do not regret it. Our users are already mostly on this system (mainly bioinformatic), and I was already using it on many servers and PC, laptops (from many years)... This migration was planned almost two years before, but I neede

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:55 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I might look into that as well. Will it have the same security stack like > Centos in terms of SEL and any other security measures I might not be aware > of? reading around the net, it seemed to me at least, that hpcng/rockyos was goi

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina via Beowulf
I might look into that as well. Will it have the same security stack like Centos in terms of SEL and any other security measures I might not be aware of? Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico Sent: 10 December 2020 14:28 Cc: beowulf@beowulf.

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:17 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I should give LFS a try but I always tend to get stuck somewhere. yeah, i've been down that rabbit hole as well. i think as LFS grew some of the instructions wavered a bit because of the nonsense in some of the software drops like gcc

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina via Beowulf
I should give LFS a try but I always tend to get stuck somewhere. I need to figure out how to clone the fedora or centos package repos to at least get myself started I think. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico Sent: 10 December 2020 14:1

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:05 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start > soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the repositories > and start my own testing etc. > Anyone know what the bare minimum you need in

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina via Beowulf
To be fair Michael, A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the repositories and start my own testing etc. Anyone know what the bare minimum you need in terms of packages installed to get going with

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

2020-12-10 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:45 PM Lance Wilson via Beowulf wrote: > > Rolling is not ideal when you have to compile software against the installed > libraries or kernels. If you have or are running Arch Linux you will know > what I'm talking about. There are regular niggles with things, especially

Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

2020-12-10 Thread Jon Tegner
What about https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ Regards, /jon On 12/9/20 7:19 AM, Carsten Aulbert wrote: On 09.12.20 07:12, Tony Brian Albers wrote: > So, if you use CentOS, I can only recommend Springdale. Just fresh from my Twitter stream: https://github.com/hpcng/rocky " Rocky Linux