look at package directory, and try to see if there is any leftover
after have removed kde.
There should be none, be there should be no bug too.
2009/6/18, David C. Rankin :
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:13:54 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>> On Wed, June 17, 2009 7:49 pm, David C. Rankin wrote:
>> >
Oh, damn Just read your message again...
Should've payed more attention.
I just checked.. It seems that in kde-unstable kdemultimedia is a
package group and in extra it is a real package.
Well, I don't know how pacman handles that, but I believe groups do
not satisfy dependencies.
Maybe you c
It seems that pacman is trying to install kdemultimedia from extra. I
believe that pacman takes the order in which repos appear in
pacman.conf as priority.
If you have extra enabled before kde-unstable, then pacman will find
kdemultimedia in extra and install it whithout asking if you want the
one
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 16:57:37 hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:23:25 -0400
>
> Andrei Thorp wrote:
> > Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 15:17:24 -0400
> >
> > 2009:
> > > It's either "dazzle them with your brilliance" or "baffle them with
> > > your bullsh
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 14:23:25 Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 15:17:24 -0400 2009:
> > It's either "dazzle them with your brilliance" or "baffle them with your
> > bullshit!" The jury is still out on which is more prevalent;-)
>
> Haha, how's being a
List,
As a test on the x86_64 box where all the conflict occurred, I thought
I
would make one more stab at a clean kde-unstable install. To start, I decided
to wipe the slate clean. The following is a summary of what was required to
completely wipe everything out.
[23:30 archangel:/ho
:D
2009/6/17 Andrei Thorp :
> Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Wed Jun 17 15:49:46 -0400 2009:
>> Looks like Chris Mason (the lead BTRFS developer @ Oracle) is a fan of Arch
>> Linux... :)
>
> Woot. Arch for the win, of course :D
> --
> Andrei Thorp
> Development Co-op
> Xandros
> andrei.th.
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:13:54 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> On Wed, June 17, 2009 7:49 pm, David C. Rankin wrote:
> > DR, List
> >
> > Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing kde-unstable
> > on
> > the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the exact
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:08:27 Ed Jobs wrote:
> On Thursday 18 June 2009 02:49, David C. Rankin wrote:
> > DR, List
> >
> >
> > I give up ;-( I'm pulling out the Nuclear option. I have uninstalled
> > everything related to kde and kde-unstable still will not install. This
>
> has
>
> > to
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:04:42 Dan McGee wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, David C.
>
> Rankin wrote:
> > DR, List
> >
> >Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing
> > kde-unstable on the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f',
> > I have the exact
On Wed, June 17, 2009 7:49 pm, David C. Rankin wrote:
> DR, List
>
> Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing kde-unstable
> on
> the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the exact
> setup on an i686 box where I am trying to install kde-unstable, but
On Thursday 18 June 2009 02:49, David C. Rankin wrote:
> DR, List
>
>
> I give up ;-( I'm pulling out the Nuclear option. I have uninstalled
> everything related to kde and kde-unstable still will not install. This
has
> to be some type of bug. I'll report back after I get my system
instal
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, David C.
Rankin wrote:
> DR, List
>
> Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing
> kde-unstable on
> the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the exact
> setup on an i686 box where I am trying to install kde-unstable,
DR, List
Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing
kde-unstable on
the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the exact
setup on an i686 box where I am trying to install kde-unstable, but this time
finding a way to do it without resorting to the '
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 17:06:11 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> > (1) Not a production box, Arch install isolated on a spare raid
> > partition, all files (including Arch packages) backed up, nothing
> > critical at risk.
> >
> > (4) The downside if it all goes wrong -- pop
David C. Rankin wrote:
(1) Not a production box, Arch install isolated on a spare raid partition, all
files (including Arch packages) backed up, nothing critical at risk.
(4) The downside if it all goes wrong -- pop the arch disk in the tray;
reboot
OK, fair enough, then. As long as you're
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:23:25 -0400
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 15:17:24 -0400
> 2009:
> > It's either "dazzle them with your brilliance" or "baffle them with
> > your bullshit!" The jury is still out on which is more prevalent;-)
>
> Haha, how's be
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 14:00:54 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> > I know all the warning about not using -f, but after reviewing the
> > conflicts being icons and other misc. files, I decided it was time for
> > the 'nuclear option'. So I reared back and let the followin
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:03 PM, prad wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:12:02 -0500
> Aaron Griffin wrote:
>
>> Knowing your known_hosts, if someone hacks one account they, in
>> essence, hack all of them - assuming you have ssh keys setup (or use
>> the same password everywhere), they now have a li
Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Wed Jun 17 15:49:46 -0400 2009:
> Looks like Chris Mason (the lead BTRFS developer @ Oracle) is a fan of Arch
> Linux... :)
Woot. Arch for the win, of course :D
--
Andrei Thorp
Development Co-op
Xandros
andrei.th...@xandros.com
www.xandros.com
Random Quote
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:12:02 -0500
Aaron Griffin wrote:
> Knowing your known_hosts, if someone hacks one account they, in
> essence, hack all of them - assuming you have ssh keys setup (or use
> the same password everywhere), they now have a list of where your key
> works
>
ok i see the idea. so
Looks like Chris Mason (the lead BTRFS developer @ Oracle) is a fan of Arch
Linux... :)
-Tim
Original Message
Subject: Re: Btrfs rescue images
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:02:01 -0400
From: Chris Mason
To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org, linux-bt...@vger.kernel.org, Linus
Torvalds
Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 15:17:24 -0400 2009:
> It's either "dazzle them with your brilliance" or "baffle them with your
> bullshit!" The jury is still out on which is more prevalent;-)
Haha, how's being a lawyer working out for you? ;)
--
Andrei Thorp
Development Co
Excerpts from David Rosenstrauch's message of Wed Jun 17 15:00:54 -0400 2009:
> Just my $0.02, but bad idea. I'd think it's quite possible that you'd
> wind up with stray files hanging around by forcing pacman like this.
> It's never a good idea to leave system/app files hanging around that
> p
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 13:42:41 Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 14:25:00 -0400 2009:
> > Done,
> >
> > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Squirrelmail
>
> Thanks, David :)
>
> Your great verbosity put to use, haha ;)
It's either "dazzle them
David C. Rankin wrote:
I know all the warning about not using -f, but after reviewing the conflicts
being icons and other misc. files, I decided it was time for the 'nuclear
option'. So I reared back and let the following fly:
pacman -Sy -f kde kde-extragear
and just hit return, retu
David C. Rankin wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 11:04:51 David C. Rankin wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:45:31 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
AFAIK, none of the kdemod3 packages are dependent on KDE4 packages.
They probably came in with some KDE app you installed. (e.g., k3b)
How w
Excerpts from David C. Rankin's message of Wed Jun 17 14:25:00 -0400 2009:
> Done,
>
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Squirrelmail
Thanks, David :)
Your great verbosity put to use, haha ;)
--
Andrei Thorp
Development Co-op
Xandros
andrei.th...@xandros.com
www.xandros.com
Random Qu
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Aaron Griffin schrieb:
I think I'm going to just put the core packages in testing and get
some help with the extra packages.
>>>
>>> unless debian has pushed a new bash completion. I can pretty much
>>> guarantee some bash-comp
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 11:55:24 Daenyth Blank wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:24, Loui Chang wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Jun 2009 10:15 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
> >> I've never set up a "new" wiki page with the Arch wiki before. If
> >> somebody wants to point me to a howto, I'll put a squirre
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
I think I'm going to just put the core packages in testing and get
some help with the extra packages.
unless debian has pushed a new bash completion. I can pretty much
guarantee some bash-completion breakage. some things just don't work
right w/ bash 4 (I forget the specif
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 11:15:31 David C. Rankin wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 11:04:51 David C. Rankin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:45:31 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>
>
>
> > > AFAIK, none of the kdemod3 packages are dependent on KDE4 packages.
> > > They probably came in with so
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:24, Loui Chang wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2009 10:15 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
>> I've never set up a "new" wiki page with the Arch wiki before. If somebody
>> wants to point me to a howto, I'll put a squirrelmail page together. Or, if
>> someone will just create the "Squ
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM, David C.
Rankin wrote:
> What now?? (the -f option is looking mighty good about now since most
> of the
> conflicts are man pages and icons.)
Have you used pacman -Qo to see what package is the current owner?
When I have file conflicts, I always use tha
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 11:04:51 David C. Rankin wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:45:31 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> >
> > AFAIK, none of the kdemod3 packages are dependent on KDE4 packages.
> > They probably came in with some KDE app you installed. (e.g., k3b)
> >
> > > How would I unins
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Caleb Cushing wrote:
>> Initially, however, bash 4.0 broke mkinitcpio, making unbootable
>> machines, so I held off for a bit.
>
> so this is fixed now...
Yeah, it was fixed around patch 15 or so... think they're up to 23 or 24
>> I think I'm going to just put th
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:45:31 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:21:02 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> >
> >
> >> This is not a conflict between kde4 and kde3. You can tell because the
> >> kde3 packages are all prefixed with kdemod3-*, which does
> Initially, however, bash 4.0 broke mkinitcpio, making unbootable
> machines, so I held off for a bit.
so this is fixed now...
> I think I'm going to just put the core packages in testing and get
> some help with the extra packages.
unless debian has pushed a new bash completion. I can pretty m
David C. Rankin wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:30:48 David C. Rankin wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:21:02 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
This is not a conflict between kde4 and kde3. You can tell because the
kde3 packages are all prefixed with kdemod3-*, which does not appear
here.
Thi
David C. Rankin wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:21:02 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
This is not a conflict between kde4 and kde3. You can tell because the
kde3 packages are all prefixed with kdemod3-*, which does not appear here.
This is a conflict between KDE4 and KDE4-unstable. I'd try res
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote:
>> been using arch for a few months and generally good and current... but
>> I just noticed that it still hasn't moved to bash 4. I'm wondering
>> what the status of it is? and where
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:30:48 David C. Rankin wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:21:02 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>
>
> > This is not a conflict between kde4 and kde3. You can tell because the
> > kde3 packages are all prefixed with kdemod3-*, which does not appear
> > here.
> >
> > This i
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:21:02 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> This is not a conflict between kde4 and kde3. You can tell because the
> kde3 packages are all prefixed with kdemod3-*, which does not appear here.
>
> This is a conflict between KDE4 and KDE4-unstable. I'd try resolving it
> by comp
On Wed 17 Jun 2009 10:15 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
> I've never set up a "new" wiki page with the Arch wiki before. If somebody
> wants to point me to a howto, I'll put a squirrelmail page together. Or, if
> someone will just create the "Squirrelmail" wiki page, I'll fill in the
> content.
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 09:33:43 ludovic coues wrote:
> So I'm wondering why package are causing issues.
> Try to do what pierre have said, install only kde-base, and add bit by bit.
>
> As far as you have show, only kde-graphics refuse to install. Maybe
> the issue is only here.
>
> And on the o
David C. Rankin wrote:
Err -- Ah Ha!
So Arch uses /opt/kde for both kde3 and kde4 instead of leaving kde3 as
/opt/kde and installing kde4 in /usr/bin. That's got to be the difference and
the reason I can't have both kde3 and kde4 live side-by-side?? Is that
correct?
No.
[dar...@daroselin
ludovic coues wrote:
If you are planning on moving to KDE4, wipe out KDE3 and install KDE4.
Again - not necessary. The stock Arch KDE4 packages can live
side-by-side with kdemod3 just fine.
Can't speak for kde-unstable, but I assume (hope?) it's installed in the
same place as stock KDE4.
David C. Rankin wrote:
Well,
So far kde4 will not even install. After starting the install last night and
going to bed. I woke to thousands of lines of:
/usr/share/doc/kde/html/en/ksnapshot/window.png exists in both 'kdegraphics-
ksnapshot' and 'kdegraphics'
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Daenyth Blank wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:11, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
>> No i dont mean symlinking vi to vim.
>> Thats not an option. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13239#comment39968
>> & downwards.
>> I mean building both in the same PKGBUILD. See th
Pierre Schmitz wrote:
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 06:43:13 David C. Rankin wrote:
What do I do with all the :: Replace kdemultimedia with
kde-unstable/kde- meta-kdemultimedia? [Y/n] questions if I want to preserve
my kdemod3 install?
No idea why pacman asks this anyway. If you answer "no
David C. Rankin wrote:
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 11:51:25 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
[kde-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
One more thing
If I do a pacman -s -u
What do I do with all the :: Replace kdemultimedia with
kde-unstable/kde-
meta-kdemultimedia? [Y/n] questions
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 10:11:16 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> > List,
> >
> > Most of you know this, but it caught me off-guard. With Arch (with good
> > security) if you define your squirrelmail data and attachment directories
> > outside your document root (which you
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:11, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> No i dont mean symlinking vi to vim.
> Thats not an option. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13239#comment39968
> & downwards.
> I mean building both in the same PKGBUILD. See the CRUX Pkgfile i posted
> previously
> I think it does exact
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> been using arch for a few months and generally good and current... but
> I just noticed that it still hasn't moved to bash 4. I'm wondering
> what the status of it is? and where it's being held up (searching the
> bugtracker found nothing that
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis
> wrote:
> > I would be in favour of building a vim package in [core] that includes
> both
> > a vi & vim binary
>
> or you mean symlinking vi to vim... which is fine. the problem is not
> s
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 06:10:56 Thomas Bächler wrote:
> David C. Rankin schrieb:
> > Your alternative is to use the radeonhd driver. I'm not 100% sure, but I
> > believe your card is supported. The radeonhd driver is really making
> > progress and is a very good open-Source driver. I use it wi
David C. Rankin wrote:
List,
Most of you know this, but it caught me off-guard. With Arch (with good
security) if you define your squirrelmail data and attachment directories
outside your document root (which you should), then you must explicitly add
the path to the parent directory of data
This should probably go in the wiki, it will get lost on the mailing
list. Nice catch though
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> I would be in favour of building a vim package in [core] that includes both
> a vi & vim binary
or you mean symlinking vi to vim... which is fine. the problem is not
so much 'really vi but vim' but more that the whole package was/is
(tes
been using arch for a few months and generally good and current... but
I just noticed that it still hasn't moved to bash 4. I'm wondering
what the status of it is? and where it's being held up (searching the
bugtracker found nothing that looked on target). perhaps I can help?
--
Caleb Cushing
ht
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 06:10:56 Thomas Bächler wrote:
> David C. Rankin schrieb:
> > Your alternative is to use the radeonhd driver. I'm not 100% sure, but I
> > believe your card is supported. The radeonhd driver is really making
> > progress and is a very good open-Source driver. I use it wi
Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 21:07 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
>
>> Rare, this is not related to what "libc" used, is just an assembler
>> label (.ident) that GCC put in the output .s file.
>>
>> What are the commands that you use to build the library? Compiling an
>> exe
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:45:50 ludovic coues wrote:
> my /opt contain only openoffice, java and erlang stuff...
> Nothing concerning kde.
It seems that kde4 takes /usr and kde3 takes /opt/kde. This is from stable kde
4.2.4
$ which kate
/usr/bin/kate
$ which konsole
/usr/bin/konsole
$ which k
So I'm wondering why package are causing issues.
Try to do what pierre have said, install only kde-base, and add bit by bit.
As far as you have show, only kde-graphics refuse to install. Maybe
the issue is only here.
And on the other hand, desktop effects seems to not be driver related
problems f
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 09:15:50 ludovic coues wrote:
> > Err -- Ah Ha!
> >
> > So Arch uses /opt/kde for both kde3 and kde4 instead of leaving kde3 as
> > /opt/kde and installing kde4 in /usr/bin. That's got to be the difference
> > and
> > the reason I can't have both kde3 and kde4 live sid
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 08:16:54 ludovic coues wrote:
> If you are planning on moving to KDE4, wipe out KDE3 and install KDE4.
>
> I'm moving to KDE unstable atm. Koffice was complaining at the begin,
> so I've remove it as he want kde-base4.2
>
> I'll tell you if there is any trouble in the upgr
> Err -- Ah Ha!
>
> So Arch uses /opt/kde for both kde3 and kde4 instead of leaving kde3 as
> /opt/kde and installing kde4 in /usr/bin. That's got to be the difference
> and
> the reason I can't have both kde3 and kde4 live side-by-side?? Is that
> correct?
>
>
my /opt contain only openoffi
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 08:29:29 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:00:32 David C. Rankin wrote:
> > Evidently kde4 saw and conflict with the kde3 packages and didn't
> > install anything. The last line of the output was:
> >
> > Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
> >
look like I'd installed koffice from aur, and haven't update it for some times.
I can't found the error message in pacman.log, but I have an install
in march, and that I've remove it today, plus a build in my home.
By the way, kde4.3 is really cool.
I'll dive into pacman logs. I've install koffice after upgrade and
log-out/in, and it have install like a charm :-\
I reply in a couple of minute.
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:18:49 Ed Jobs wrote:
> i saw the same in a VM. pacman -Sf worked for me, tho i wouldn't use -
> f on my normal system...
No, don't even think about using -f or -d. Especially on an update. Those
errors are prompted for a good reason and if you fore the install you sys
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:16:54 ludovic coues wrote:
> I'm moving to KDE unstable atm. Koffice was complaining at the begin,
> so I've remove it as he want kde-base4.2
>
> I'll tell you if there is any trouble in the upgrade.
Could you be more verbose about the trouble with koffice? Those probl
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:00:32 David C. Rankin wrote:
> Evidently kde4 saw and conflict with the kde3 packages and didn't install
> anything. The last line of the output was:
>
> Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
>
> Talk about a bummer What does the brain-trust suggest?
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 16:00, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Well,
>
> So far kde4 will not even install. After starting the install last
night
> and going to bed. I woke to thousands of lines of:
>
> /usr/share/doc/kde/html/en/ksnapshot/window.png exists in both
> 'kdegraphics- ksnapshot' and
If you are planning on moving to KDE4, wipe out KDE3 and install KDE4.
I'm moving to KDE unstable atm. Koffice was complaining at the begin,
so I've remove it as he want kde-base4.2
I'll tell you if there is any trouble in the upgrade.
I'll at the other end of the country. near of dijon to be exact. So
it'll be difficult for me. Maybe another year.
2009/6/17, Pierre Chapuis :
> The 10th Libre Sofrware Meeting will take place in Nantes (France) from July
> 7th to July 11th. It is the biggest Open Source event in the country (see
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:51:19 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 06:43:13 David C. Rankin wrote:
> > What do I do with all the :: Replace kdemultimedia with
> > kde-unstable/kde- meta-kdemultimedia? [Y/n] questions if I want to
> > preserve my kdemod3 install?
>
> No idea
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
>
>> Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 schrieb Allan McRae:
>> > Tobias Powalowski wrote:
>> > > Hi
>> > > just wondered, what is the status of vi/vim in testing, this one
>> blocks
>> >
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 schrieb Allan McRae:
> > Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > just wondered, what is the status of vi/vim in testing, this one blocks
> > > archboot from moving to extra, is there any progress of moving it to
The 10th Libre Sofrware Meeting will take place in Nantes (France) from July
7th to July 11th. It is the biggest Open Source event in the country (see
http://2009.rmll.info/?lang=en).
Are there Archers planning to attend? Speaking French is probably required to
take part in some of the conferen
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 21:07 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
> Rare, this is not related to what "libc" used, is just an assembler
> label (.ident) that GCC put in the output .s file.
>
> What are the commands that you use to build the library? Compiling an
> executable/library with toolchain-
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