Re: [arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array

[ludovic coues]

>
> >
> > I just replied in the bug report but for those that are interested
> > something like:
> >
> > conflicts=("kdebase-*")
> >
> > may be achieved using
> >
> > conflicts=$(pacman -Ssq kdebase-)
>
> or simply cut and paste the output of "pacman -Ssq ..." into
> conflicts=().
>

Simply pasting will not work if someone is just bumping the package using
conflict's version and that kdebase-* have get some new member. But it's
better from my point of view.

Re: [arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.

[ludovic coues]

I'll talk about my machine, with KDE4. I don't know why you get all these
weird stuff.


> 1) the libjepg.7 vs 62 problem - I've exhaustively tried every solution
> over
> the last few hours on the forums and cannot get kmail to work - loads but
> 'poof; up in smoke once the gui appears


My kmail is working without these problems. Haven't get any problem with
libjpeg since I've tried to mix up testing repo and normal repo.


2) Dolphin -  I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a
> file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this >
> multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but
> god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives.


I'm using konqueror for web browsing, and from times to times as a ftp
browser. konqueror is still working, and can still open folder. But I can't
find out how to tell to KDE that I wanna konqueror as default file browser.


3) Is there anyway to have two tool bars down the bottom like one could in
> KDE3


I've just tried. I believe that it's not possible.
Anyway, you can put most of the thing you would find in a tool bar  on the
desktop. Like the systray, and the task manager. You could simulate a second
tool bar this way.

4) is it is any way possible to import kmail boxes (in one go) into
> thunderbird - mind you I like kmail better!
> 5) Kwrite ? same applies kdebase-kwrite but is it possible to install under
> kde4.3?


Kwrite is working for me. Kate too. For kmail/thunderbird, I don't know.
never try to import anything.

Good luck for the install.

Re: [arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.

[ludovic coues]

>
>
>
> I think you need to go to System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations
> and change the association of inode/directory to use Konqueror with higher
> priority than Dolphin.
>
> Edgar
>


I've done this one, with no more success. Probably need a bug report.

Re: [arch-general] Why doesn't plasma-panel show open apps in 2 rows in arch?

[ludovic coues]

there is a setting for this, but the task manager is some pain to open his
settings dialog.
If you set "force rows settings", you get several rows.

Re: [arch-general] Why doesn't plasma-panel show open apps in 2 rows in arch?

[ludovic coues]

>Like I said, I finally got to the taskbar properties, but if you
> have 5-6
> apps open, to get to the settings you have to right-click exactly on the (
> 1
> pixel ) wide vertical line between two open application icons on the
> taskbar
> to have the menu option available.


You are just not a lucky one. Using a different theme can offer you a bigger
vertical line...
Or no line at all, see my theme ;-p http://www.tenshi.fr/task_manager.jpg
 The other solution is to unlock widget, open the panel setting, and select
the task_manager setting.

For the solution of putting a link to the task manager setting into the
panel setting doesn't make sense to me. Some people will use daisy as task
manager, or no task manager at all on one panel (my case). These people will
get some confusing option in the panel.
But why the hell there is a "move" and a "resize" option when I right-click
in the task manager, but no "task manager setting" unlike with every
plasmoid which provide desktop setting ?

[arch-general] PKGBUILD for updated libldap

[ludovic coues]

I've see that libldap is version 2.3.43 on arch, and the last release on
there website is 2.4.17 .
I attach the PKGBUILD with this mail.


PKGBUILD
Description: Binary data

Re: [arch-general] postgresql 8.4

[ludovic coues]

2009/9/9 Caleb Cushing 

> like to help get these up to date in any way I can. I can maintain
> postgres and related packages if necessary.
>
>
Common way to upgrade a package for bare user is to attach a updated
PKGBUILD. CC the maintener is good too.


This package look like it simply need to be "version bumped". I've just made
the following change, and everything have compiled fine.
pkgver=8.3.7 => pkgver=8.4.0
pkgrel=3  => pkgrel=1

md5sums=('1f172d5f60326e972837f58fa5acd130'
'7d8ea2abb6a8cdacf35604bda659a34a'
 'df6ddf9e2ab4700a3415f17c0f4f4172'
'4d74f4227dc5e12bf95b3490758d86c9'
 '96f82c38f3f540b53f3e5144900acf17')
=>
md5sums=('7b7e91a2221e55fe1b167e663217a96d'
'7d8ea2abb6a8cdacf35604bda659a34a'\
 'df6ddf9e2ab4700a3415f17c0f4f4172'
'4d74f4227dc5e12bf95b3490758d86c9'\
 '96f82c38f3f540b53f3e5144900acf17')


In order to pass dependency check, postgresql-libs need to be updated too.
You can find the PKGBUILD in abs.

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/~thomas/autowifi = 404

[ludovic coues]

as far as I know, autowifi is a automagic tools to connect you when your are
deconnected. It work like a wrapper for wpa_*

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Re: [arch-general] GDM + Xfce

[ludovic coues]

You can give a try to slim, as a login manager.
Very simple, it does the job.

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Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

[ludovic coues]

> None at all.
>
>

> Now i'm running xmonad, with a mix of gui (gimp,inkscape,browser) and non
> gui
>


My english wasn't one of the best, but isn't a windows manager the same
thing as a desktop ?

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Re: [arch-general] Help - Sound Disappeared -- Really! All modules -> Gone?? (kernel bug?)

[ludovic coues]

2009/12/3 Raghavendra Prabhu 

>
> haha...
> I think we may soon see RTFM replacing DTFG(Do the F* Googling) or
> something
> better
>

It is not Do that Friendly Google ? : )

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Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos

[ludovic coues]

As far as I've understand the main problem, it's about mirror which are not
up-to-date.
So could it be possible to make a dummy package of the day ?

Every morning, the main server will produce a dummy package containing the
today's timestamp. So if the dummy package is 3 days old, this means that
the master mirror is down, or that the mirror haven't synced since 3 days.

After this, it's easy to ask to pacman to print an error message if the
dummy package is 3 or 7 or whatever you have said to pacman days old.

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Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

[ludovic coues]

2010/1/12 Aaron Griffin 

> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders 
> wrote:
> > On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote:
> >
> > [top posting & trimming ]
> >
> >> I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail
> >> webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting
> >> replies and sending HTML emails. I have requested that they change the
> >> defaults, but haven't gotten any response. It isn't a big surprise
> >> though.
> >
> > Actually, it /is/ configurable in gmail.
>
> You can change the default to text, but bottom posting requires a
> greasemonkey script :S
>


I'm intersted in how to set the default to text. I've search a bit, and
found nothing :s

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

[ludovic coues]

By the way, why Joerg ask that Allan do the jobs about legal stuff ?
That Joerg that want that cdrkit go to official repo. Not Allan.

I'm not right ?

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

[ludovic coues]

2010/1/27 Gaurish Sharma 

>
> please respond purely on technical basis.
>

Dev don't care about technical basis.
They are ok with the fact that 13 releases per year is better than only one
each single year.
The problem is that there is no legal stuff from lawers.

I've seen two times people asking why cdrtools whole thing can't be under
one single license. source and compiling stuff.
This will put away the legal issue. In a far better way than getting paper
from a lawers.

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Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/1 Emmanuel Benisty 

> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan 
> wrote:
> > How to install multiple kernels using pacman ?
> >
> > Arch should do something like Fedora/Redhat. Maintain 1-2 previous
> kernels
> > so that if a new one is buggy, then the old one can be used.
>
> QFT.
>
> WAIT WHAT?
> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/kernel26-lts/
> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/kernel26-lts/
>

lts is not for everyday desktop usage.

By the way,  there should be a way to get older with something like that
pacman -S kernel26-2.6.32.6-1

In my mind, when package version is specified, pacman look if the asked
version is in the repo, and get it if there is such a version.
Lot of app would only provide the current version, but some critical app,
like kernel, could provide one or two older version. Just by letting them in
the repo.

But maybe I'm totally wrong, and this will not work cause every kernel
module work only with the current one.

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Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/1 Xavier Chantry 

> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, ludovic coues  wrote:
> >>
> >> WAIT WHAT?
> >> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/kernel26-lts/
> >> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/kernel26-lts/
> >>
> >
> > lts is not for everyday desktop usage.
> >
>
> Who said anything about desktop usage ?
> It is useful for a server. And it turns out to also be a nice fallback
> if your new kernel is very broken.
> A fallback is not for everyday desktop usage, it's supposed to allow
> you to boot and fix/report/figure out whatever problem you have with
> the new kernel.
>

If a remember right, the original poster was asking for an older kernel
'cause of usb trouble. I don't know what a server will do with a usb device.

And I'm agree that head kernel is the right choice, I've chosen archlinux
cause it have up to date package.
And to be on the right side when world domination will happen.

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Re: [arch-general] core/linux-api-headers?

[ludovic coues]

Could there be a rename/fork rss feed ?

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

[ludovic coues]

There is no rescue shell for when the kernel is broken ?
I remember having broken archlinux 3 times, mostly the graphical interface.
I have installed only one time archlinux. No need to reinstall to fix it.

By the way, I'm fine with the way kernel are handled. And I doesn't
understand why we should have 2 or more vmlinuz with some weird var in their
names.
That's archlinux, not ubuntnoob (not sure of the spelling.)

But, having older package hanging in repos, no support, just the bunch of
bit making an archive, could be something good. People can this way get
older kernel, and try if there are less buggy.
Probably that most of the time older kernel will be more buggy.
But user will have the choice to downgrade there kernel, even if they
haven't the space te keep every package in their cache.

I feel the need to repeat, that letting package in the repo doesn't need
that these package need support. Just to be in wget range at least.
Allowing pacman to downgrade the kernel from the repo would be the best, but
it's more work than forgetting the head-1 version of a major package in
repo.

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Re: [arch-general] Mounting tmpfs on /dev. Why?

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/4 Arvid Picciani 

> On 02/04/2010 02:33 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
>
>  I'd like you to find any modern Linux distribution that doesn't do it
>> this way. Good luck with that.
>>
>
>
> HereticLinux :P
>

isn't Heretic an adjective meaning '20 years old' ?

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Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - 'virtuoso -t' grabbing ~80% of the CPU every few minutes

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/5 David C. Rankin 

> On 02/05/2010 03:00 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
> > On Friday 05 February 2010 14:08:11 David C. Rankin wrote:
> >>  Looking at the processes, it is 'virtuoso -t' that is to blame. Can
> anyone
> >>  else confirm this behavior ... and .. does anyone know of a workaround?
> >
> > Disble nepomuk?
> >
>
> Thanks Shridhar,
>
>I know how to do that. Nepomuk has been working fine in the past
> versions of
> 4.3.4, but now it seems that virtuoso isn't behaving properly. Are you
> seeing
> this problem as well?
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Maybe virtuoso have trouble with the database. I've see a post on this mail
list or dev-archlinux where they are talking about some change in the
database format.

Try to move virtuoso data directory somewhere else, and check if it have
something to do with your problem.

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Re: [arch-general] How to disable automatic svn updates in Konqueror 4.4?

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/12 David Rosenstrauch 

> So it looks like an annoying "feature" got added to a recent upgrade to
> KDE4.  (Maybe in the recent 4.4 beta?)
>
> When using Konqueror as a file manager, apparently there's some new
> subversion integration - which is getting enabled by default.
>
> If you go into "konqueror --profile filemanagement" and click on an svn
> working directory, konqueror automatically displays the svn status using
> icons, and automatically performs an "svn update" when you enter the
> directory.
>
> Anyone know how to disable this "feature"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> DR
>

It's not specifics to konqueror. Dolphin have this svn feature too.
If there is an update at every access to the directory, I'll be happy to
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Re: [arch-general] How to disable automatic svn updates in Konqueror 4.4?

[ludovic coues]

2010/2/13 David Rosenstrauch 

> On 02/12/2010 09:09 PM, ludovic coues wrote:
>
>> 2010/2/12 David Rosenstrauch
>>
>>  So it looks like an annoying "feature" got added to a recent upgrade to
>>> KDE4.  (Maybe in the recent 4.4 beta?)
>>>
>>> When using Konqueror as a file manager, apparently there's some new
>>> subversion integration - which is getting enabled by default.
>>>
>>> If you go into "konqueror --profile filemanagement" and click on an svn
>>> working directory, konqueror automatically displays the svn status using
>>> icons, and automatically performs an "svn update" when you enter the
>>> directory.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to disable this "feature"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> DR
>>>
>>>
>> It's not specifics to konqueror. Dolphin have this svn feature too.
>> If there is an update at every access to the directory, I'll be happy to
>> disable it.
>>
>
> Ooh - I think I've found the magic incantation!
>
> "I ... have just committed code that allows to disable the plugins. It is
> too late already for providing a GUI for this (string freeze -> must be
> postponed to KDE SC 4.5), but you can disable it by modifying your dolphinrc
> file. Just add:
> [VersionControl]
> disabledPlugins=Subversion"
>
> http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2009/12/version-control-support.html
>
> DR
>

Thank !

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Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...

[ludovic coues]

2010/3/30 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 

> I could add and delete files to and from this directory tree and know that
> the next "File->Open URL->PathToMusicDirTree" would result in kaffeine
> playing all of them. At most all I needed to do was to set shuffle and
> repeat options to enjoy my background music for as long as I wanted it.
>
> That is all I ever wanted of a music player...
>

have you try mpd ?
mpc allow you to lod every file from the mpd's music directory with a single
commnd like `mpc findadd Title ""`

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Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...

[ludovic coues]

2010/3/30 Xavier Chantry 

> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Heiko Baums 
> wrote:
> > Am Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:10:22 +0800
> > schrieb Ian-Xue Li :
> >
> >> As for MOC, I recommend cmus over MOC because it got more decoder over
> >> different types files.
> >
> > Well, just tried cmus. It's so complicated an unintuitive. If I need to
> > first finish my degree to be able to use a program then there's
> > something wrong with it. If I add a directory to the playlist, there
> > are no tracks listed in the playlist, only the directory, and the
> > tracks are played in random order, there's no progress bar, etc. And to
> > do simple things, you first need to enter complicated vi like
> > commands. I hate vi, btw. And my impression is that the sound quality
> > of MOC is still a bit better.
> >
> > I doubt that one need the other decoders. At least I haven't missed a
> > decoder in MOC.
> >
>
> Heh cmus is probably my preferred player now so I ought to defend it.
>
> Too complicated, seriously ? The only command I ever need is the
> initial one to add my music directory :
>  # add files, short for ':add ~/music'
>  :a ~/music
>
> After that, all you need is 3 keys : space to expand an artist and
> view the albums, enter to play what you want, tab to switch between
> album view and track view if you want a particular track.
>
> By the way, in the main/default mode, you don't see directory, you see
> artist/albums from tags.
>   There are 7 views in cmus.  Press keys 1-7 to change active view.
>   Library view (1)
>
> And these 5 shortcuts can be useful too :
>   x  player-play
>   c  player-pause
>   v  player-stop
>   C  toggle continue
>   s  toggle shuffle
>
> You cannot pretend you want keyboard controls, and not open the man
> page to learn the few keys you need :)
>

people who doesn't like at all vi(m) will not like this kind of shortcut too
I suppose.

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Re: [arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings

[ludovic coues]

In theory, from what I've understand from archlinux, you can't downgrade by
downloading a package. You must fetch it from pacman's package cache.

So size doesn't matter at all.
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Re: [arch-general] testing xorg-server 1.8 [xorg18]

[ludovic coues]

2010/4/6 Marek Otahal 

> Thank you for a great job, Jan.
> I can confirm the xorg-server 1.8 works great for me! :)
> I'm running on [testing], i686, kernel 2.6.33.2, xf86-video-intel,
> touchpad(synaptics), keyboard, usb keyb/mouse hotpluging works as well,
> sound(intel hda) & guvc video webcam  just upgraded and voila, works
> like
> a charm! :)
> Happy Easter to all of you!
> Marek
>
> ...well, here's an update after a deeper tryout :)
> *touchpad(synaptics) - issues with tapping which does not work /buttons do/
>
> *a note for testers, one can disable !hal from rc.conf but make sure to
> include dbus instead(hal used to start it up) otherwise policykit fails
>
> *I have troubles with resuming from suspend/black screen/ but have to make
> sure if it is not a problem of kernel.
>
> *as I'm using kde, here's a problem: battery monitor is disabled and i'm
> not
> sure if cpu freq scaling under kde works(probably problem of kde?, acpi
> command shows correct info), also there is a dependency on hal- pacman
> -Rcsn
> hal would remove a great bunch of packages(including kde), how do I figure,
> whats the dep.?
>
> Thanks once again, Mark
>
> PS: I would reply to arch-dev-public thread but i don't have write access
> to
> it
>
> --
>
> Marek Otahal :o)
>

Afaik, kde need hal, for exemple for the battery monitor, which seems to be
build upon hal. I have heard that next kde's release will allow hal-free
build, but I can be wrong.

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Re: [arch-general] how to add autowifi to rc.conf

[ludovic coues]

At the end of your rc.conf, juste like that:
DAEMONS=(daemon autowifi daemon)

archlinux know where are initscript, and that she have to just start
them. She just need to know which you want to start.

Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd

[ludovic coues]

2012/8/22 Sebastian Günther :
> * Felipe Contreras (felipe.contre...@gmail.com) [22.08.12 02:22]:
>> Funny that you say "around the same time", when it's clearly less than
>> 6 seconds, so it's 15% slower, but that's the second instance of kdm.
>> The first instance starts at 2s in 1000 hz, and 4s in 300 hz, so
>> there's *clearly* a big difference.
>
> So it's only needs twice the time with only on third of the ticks? Well
> that is awesome... Yeah to systemd!
>
> Anyway we are talking about 2 seconds...
> compared to time you wasted for a lot of people: It would have been
> better you had just saved all the delaying seconds for 100 boots and got
> a cup of coffee as normal users do when they boot their computer
>
> Sebastian
>
> P.S.: sorry for feeding the trolls, but I simply could not resist...
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Where is that time where computer could take up to thirty seconds to boot up ?

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Re: [arch-general] (no subject)

[ludovic coues]

2009/3/30, xq :
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Re: [arch-general] Computer blocking due to kernel <-> userspace incompatibility?

[ludovic coues]

look like an not-recognized-by-X keyboard. i've get some weird problem
like that when I've install X.

But maybe your cursor have already work. In this case, sorry for the
useless post.

2009/3/30, Thomas Bächler :
> RedShift schrieb:
>> Is it possible a computer gets stuck (not responding to keyboard, the
>> only way to bring it back alive is a hard reset) because of a
>> incompatibility between the kernel and userspace? The cursor is still
>> flickering though, that is what leads me to believe it's software crash,
>> not a hardware crash.
>>
>> This is the software in question:
>>
>> glibc 2.9-4
>> kernel-headers 2.6.27.6-2
>> kernel26 2.6.25.10-1
>
> If there was a problem, you should get "kernel too old" as soon as init
> is started. Our userspace should work with 2.6.16 and newer (some
> kernel-related things like udev might fail, but the binaries themselves
> should be able to execute).
>
> However, you can never rule out a bug that causes this, I am only
> stating what it _should_ support.
>
>

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

[ludovic coues]

your errors look like wmii try to display something but didn't found
any display, cause X is down.

You need to use another way to shut down X if you didn't get these
messages, or redirect them to «/dev/null» .

2009/3/31, Jan de Groot :
> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:04 -0700, arunix wrote:
>> when i come back with the command ctrl+alt+backkey(backspace) it
>> shows me error
>
> You know that CTRL+ALT+backspace is not the clean way to close X? What
> happens is that X gets killed while all applications are still running.
> This produces a lot of error messages because the applications bail out
> when X is killed.
>
>

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

[ludovic coues]

Maybe get the X pid, then kill it with a TERM (15) or QUIT (3) signal
will do the job.
Give it a try.

If you log from the console, you can logout too. This will end the
graphic session, then you'll fall back to the console.

-ludovic.

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

[ludovic coues]

if coming back to X give a fatal error, there is a problem.
try to find a clean way to shut down X, then see if the pipe is still broken.

If so, try to comment out the block, then watch what change happen.

Re: [arch-general] Makefile to build all packages

[ludovic coues]

just a question, what the difference between «cd abs» and «cd ./abs» ?

Afaik, « ./ » stand for « current directory /  », so it will not
change the cd target, doesn't it ?

2009/4/5, Baho Utot :
> Alessandro Doro wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 04:35:04PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote:
>>
>>> Kurt J. Bosch wrote:
>>>
 On 2009-04-04 15:06, Baho Utot wrote:

> find returns the directory entry with ./ in front of the directory name
> Anyone know how to make find return abs instead of ./abs
>
>
 man find suggests -printf %P for this :)


>>> doesn't work
>>>
>>
>> Do you maybe need this?
>> for i in $(find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d -printf "%P\n") ; do
>>
>>
> That did indeed work
>
> Now my script works "out of the box"
>
> Many Thanks
>
>

Re: [arch-general] Makefile to build all packages

[ludovic coues]

Sure that abs is sexier than ./abs ^__^

Re: [arch-general] Bug reports for out of date packages?

[ludovic coues]

I suppose that some maintainer are not looking as often as some people from
the arch's
 community want to there package.

Couldn't be multiple maintainer for package ?

Re: [arch-general] Understanding permissions

[ludovic coues]

I'm pretty sure that +x is not set for everybody in home.
Just cause you don't want that anybody can see what folder you have.
If you want have have a pokemon subfolder of anime, nobody else need
to now this. So, for me, +x have not to be set.

But doesn't seem to be the case for my home directory...
Hopefully, it's my laptop, not a shared computer.

Re: [arch-general] Understanding permissions

[ludovic coues]

I've just tried to ls my home folder from an foo account. Doesn't work.
So I was wrong.

Need more try and fail learning =p

Re: [arch-general] Are there sets for installing apache?

[ludovic coues]

2009/4/21, David C. Rankin :
> David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>> David C. Rankin wrote:
>>> Listmates,
>>>
>>> I installed apache2 with pacman -S apache, but all I got was
>>> apache2 itself.
>>> Is there a set of packages that will install all of the modules as well?
>>
>> Many of them come installed with apache.  (See "pacman -Ql apache | grep
>> modules/mod_".)
>>
>> Some others are available as separate packages.  (See
>> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?arch=&repo=&q=mod_&last_update=&limit=50)
>>
>>
>> And some other, lesser-used ones are available from the AUR.  (You
>> should learn about the AUR if you're planning to become a regular Arch
>> user.  See http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR)
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> DR
>>
>
> Thanks DR, again, that's just what I needed.
>
>   I'll take a look at AUR and abs. I plan to replace a current opensuse 
> 11.0
> server with arch 2009.02. It will be a fun experience. I do most everything
> from the command line anyway, so the move to arch isn't bad at all. Just
> like
> any new distro, you just have to learn where all the pieces to the puzzle
> are
> hidden. After that, you are off and running ;-)
>
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> Telephone: (936) 715-9333
> Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
> www.rankinlawfirm.com
>

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] jfsutils 1.1.14-1

[ludovic coues]

2009/5/3, Tobias Powalowski :
> Hi
> update to latest version, please signoff for both arches.
>
> greetings
> tpowa
> --
> Tobias Powalowski
> Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
> http://www.archlinux.org
> tp...@archlinux.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

[ludovic coues]

> cover the users who USE and EXPECT 'vim' but still type 'vi' (sigh)

couldn't we suggest them to make an alias ?

Re: [arch-general] Opera Segfaults on x86_64 after kernel update

[ludovic coues]

Afaik, an Atom is an erlang term for variable without content. Usefull for
error or message code.

But I doen't know if opera is using erlang, or for other stuff called atom.

[arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

hi listmate,

I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion.
I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no
support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine).

So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual
machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0
bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0.
If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the
wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network.
To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have
no internet connexion.
Weird.

If any one might help me with this, it would be nice.
-ludovic

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi
connexion in the wiki.
Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine.

Thank a lot all ;-)

2009/5/13, Patrick Baumgart :
> I think there is no need to bridge your network inside your machine.
> Use the outwards interface (eth0) in your settings.
> Give in windows a "fresh" IP for your Virtualbox.
> Works fin on my side.
>
> I have all Linux "normal" built: wlan0 to get to the router. (example
> 192.168.5.1, Router: 192.168.5.100)
> Inside Virtualbox I set the Adapter to use wlan0 as Bridged Network.
> And inside Windows I use a static IP to use in my network (example
> 192.168.5.2) or use dhcp.
>
>
> Baumi
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 13.05.2009, 18:25 +0200 schrieb ludovic coues:
>> hi listmate,
>>
>> I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion.
>> I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no
>> support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine).
>>
>> So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual
>> machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0
>> bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0.
>> If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the
>> wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network.
>> To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have
>> no internet connexion.
>> Weird.
>>
>> If any one might help me with this, it would be nice.
>> -ludovic
>
>

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi
connexion in the wiki.
Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine.

Thank a lot all ;-)

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

thank for this hint.

Catalyst driver doesn't seem to work, I'll give this a try.If doesn't work
better, I'll try to intall my *sigh* vista.

I love this game (eve-online). A bit too much I think.

Re: [arch-general] Bugs again

[ludovic coues]

for me, a bug tracker is for tracking bug. For an upstream issue, the
bug is spotted, reported to the bug tracker, and flagged upstream.
Why it'll be closed at this point ?

While there no patch to correct the bug, the bug is still here, and
need to be tracked. So closing a bug report before resolving the bug
is Bad, even if it's an upstream issue.

That's how I see bug tracker and I wonder why it's not like this.
Am I wrong ?

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

no luck installing the wineD3D apps. No right to write into the
directX file on the win7 system, and I can't set this with corrupted
graphics. I've yet some problem with the VM.

I'll give a shoot at wine then cedega right now, then try back the VM
if this doesn't work.

I'll keep you informed.

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

I've give a try to wine, and eve reply to me that my graphic card
doesn't support shader 2.
For wikipedia, a mobility radeon X2300 support directX9c, which mean
shader up to 3...

I wish eve-online is an openGL game...

I go back to the VM

[arch-general] Autowifi not in AUR

[ludovic coues]

Hi listmates,

I've seen sometimes ago a link to autowifi. And I wonder why this one
can't be found in AUR.
I'm using autowifi since I found it, and it's great. No need to care
about anything when wpa_supplicant have a right config.
Just open a browser, and go on.

It could be a great app in the the repo, but without any trace in the
AUR, we can't vote for it, and I wonder how it can be add to the repo
if it have no vote...

'cause wlan0 haven't to be more complicated than eth0.
-ludovic

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

I did it !
I've install wined3D on the piece oh sh*t that is M$ vista and up.

I'll update the wiki in order to bring instruction to install it.
A brief summary here. You will:
start windows in without fail mode by pressing F8
lunch wined3D as administrator
when the first warning come, go to the system folder.
change owner of all file backed up by wined3D
give total control of these file to admin.

In windows, trusted installer have more power than admin. And admin
can't change their right if the file belong to trusted admin

Now, need to configure shared folder, and copy the eve installer to the VM...
after the wiki.

Re: [arch-general] Autowifi not in AUR

[ludovic coues]

All I've done si to grab the lastest PKGBUILD at
http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/autowifi/
I've mainly send this e-mail to know if he want to not put autowifi in
AUR, if he haven't think at this.

2009/5/15, Eric Bélanger :
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:06 AM, ludovic coues  wrote:
>> Hi listmates,
>>
>> I've seen sometimes ago a link to autowifi. And I wonder why this one
>> can't be found in AUR.
>> I'm using autowifi since I found it, and it's great. No need to care
>> about anything when wpa_supplicant have a right config.
>> Just open a browser, and go on.
>>
>> It could be a great app in the the repo, but without any trace in the
>> AUR, we can't vote for it, and I wonder how it can be add to the repo
>> if it have no vote...
>>
>> 'cause wlan0 haven't to be more complicated than eth0.
>> -ludovic
>>
>
> It's not in AUR simply because no-one has submitted a PKGBUILD.  You
> or someone else need to submit a PKGBUILD for it in AUR so that people
> can use it and vote for it.
>

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

After some test, wined3D appears to doesn't work at all on win7. Basic
game like freecell cannot be launch at all after this, and few thing
like that.

If I can found my vista installer DVDs,  I'll try with it.
If I can't, I'll search for an XP install.

I hate these M$ product with no compatibility

Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

[ludovic coues]

For sure.
There are people on the eve's forum talking about worst fps with vista
than older PC with XP.
I just need to found an XP...

There is no more thing like that in shop.

Re: [arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?

[ludovic coues]

As far as I know, Koffice has never reach the stable stage a the
moment. Maybe cause dev have jump from RC to "working on KDE4
version".
So I don't know if you will found any stable koffice apps for KDE3.

Like Grigorios Bouzakis have said, I guess it's time for an upgrade to
KDE4. I'm using it atm, and I have no trouble. I've just no kde
graphical tools for network.
But for someone editing his /etc/group file by hand with vim in place
of vigr, I think it's not a problem ;-)

Re: [arch-general] KDE, Bluetooth and Wifi

[ludovic coues]

I'm using netcfg too, with through the autowifi daemon (
wiki.archlinux.org/Autowifi )
But I'm using too some netcfg-proof network (worst than terrible wifi), and
for this, I'm using archassistant.

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

[ludovic coues]

It's just matter of few line in a PKGBUILD, isn't it ?
For my, it should be ask for packager to fix it for the next upgrade.

And a work on the UID / GID database is the solution for me. Maybe it
might be better to work on this rather than fix every PKGBUILD.

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

[ludovic coues]

A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script,
can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and
user.

This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be
aware of new user/group.

And like glenn, I'm wondering how package can add or remove daemon.
These are users set, and when are ok, need no worries. If package
add/remove them, it's unexpected problem coming to the user.

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

[ludovic coues]

That

2009/5/28, Jan Spakula :
> Excerpts from ludovic coues's message of Do Mai 28 17:09:52 +0200 2009:
>> A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script,
>> can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and
>> user.
>>
>> This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be
>> aware of new user/group.
>
> I don't get how is adding/removing users/groups from pacman directly safer
> then
> doing the same from the install script.
>
> How about just *informing* the user what's happening in the install script?
> Then there would be no 'unexpected behavior'.
>

That's what I want to when I suggest to confirm the creation.
And pacman can have some internal security that can be by-pass if some
PKGBUILD field are used.
For example, pacman could have a database with which app have add
which user, and will not remove a user which is needed by an app when
another app want remove it on uninstall.

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

[ludovic coues]

I'm agree with that. Bug report should be filed for operation on
daemon in .install script.

2009/5/28, Jan de Groot :
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 18:47 +0200, ludovic coues wrote:
>> That
>>
>> 2009/5/28, Jan Spakula :
>> > Excerpts from ludovic coues's message of Do Mai 28 17:09:52 +0200 2009:
>> >> A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script,
>> >> can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and
>> >> user.
>> >>
>> >> This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be
>> >> aware of new user/group.
>> >
>> > I don't get how is adding/removing users/groups from pacman directly
>> > safer
>> > then
>> > doing the same from the install script.
>> >
>> > How about just *informing* the user what's happening in the install
>> > script?
>> > Then there would be no 'unexpected behavior'.
>> >
>>
>> That's what I want to when I suggest to confirm the creation.
>> And pacman can have some internal security that can be by-pass if some
>> PKGBUILD field are used.
>> For example, pacman could have a database with which app have add
>> which user, and will not remove a user which is needed by an app when
>> another app want remove it on uninstall.
>
> Packages shouldn't share user accounts usually, and in case they do,
> they should be in the filesystem package.
>
> As for (re)starting daemons: don't. It's up to the user to do that.
> Usually these things need configuration, it's a no-go to add them to
> rc.conf by default.
>
>

Re: [arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?

[ludovic coues]

I've install it directly from the Arch repos.
And with a mobility radeon X2300, default setting, my computer is
moving from 40°C to 50°C.
By the way, I've no 3D cool desktop stuff. And KDE4 can provide this
to you, like a really cool desktop cube for desktop switching. i love
it with only 12 desktop.

But I've problem with some app and this. Like dragon, the video
player. Blender is not usable too with 3D stuff actived. But I suppose
it's related to my graphic card. For wikipedia, this one support
openGL 2.0. But my system say openGL 1.3 mesa 7.4.2.

May the luck be with you, for this try ;-)

Re: [arch-general] pidgin memory leak?

[ludovic coues]

if pidgin is a problem, you can give a try to emesene.
But I don't know if it have sound. And don't use msn dailly

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

[ludovic coues]

> For me it's about 'expectations'. I expect a package manager to manage
> packages
> (unpack a new one over the old one in a sensible manner) and don't expect it
> to
> decide what's best for me in terms of what's running or not. I still find it
> 100% better to *let me know* that config might have changed (pacman does
> this
> automatically) and that something might need to be done if, say, I run this
> and
> that daemon. Don't run it for me. And if you absolutely have to, *let me
> know*.
>
> --
>   Jan
>


Maybe that a PKGBUILD runned solution, could allow to set some
pacman's config for this.
Like a field " auto-restart_daemon = 1", wich you can set to 0, if you
don't want. Same for adding user.

If the field is to 1, pacman manage it by itself, if it's set to 0,
pacman just print warning informing the user that he need to apply
change to the daemon, i.e. restart it.

Re: [arch-general] Weird OpenOffice Disappearing Menu and Toolbar Text?

[ludovic coues]

I've get a similar issue some time ago with konqueror. No text was displayed
in text area when I was tipping, but the text come back magically when I
select it.

I have change the font, and every thing come back right. I think that it's a
"font of the color of the background" issue. You should have change the
font, or the font's color when playing with theme. This will have make the
problem disappear.

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

[ludovic coues]

I've used Wmii some few times. But the last, I've finished sick, and
I've had to stop my computer for one hour or two.
Every windows taking all the place is a bit oppressing, especially
with wide-screen.

But I can give a try to Awesome, as an alternative Wm, for when KDE is
broken. Or for every days use if I can. Tilling windows manager are
cool.

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

[ludovic coues]

2009/6/10 David Rosenstrauch 

> Andrei Thorp wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I think the big thing about using a tiling window manager is
>> that it works best if you have a lot of terminals
>>
>
> If you have a lot of terminals, a tabbed or split-screen terminal app, like
> Konsole or Terminator is probably more efficient.
>
> DR


I like a lot yakuake for tabbed terminal. using konsole technologies, it add
a pretty cool drop-down feature, which allow to have a term at any moment,
just by typing F12.

Re: [arch-general] Anyone coming to LSM '09?

[ludovic coues]

I'll at the other end of the country. near of dijon to be exact. So
it'll be difficult for me. Maybe another year.

2009/6/17, Pierre Chapuis :
> The 10th Libre Sofrware Meeting will take place in Nantes (France) from July
> 7th to July 11th. It is the biggest Open Source event in the country (see
> http://2009.rmll.info/?lang=en).
>
> Are there Archers planning to attend? Speaking French is probably required
> to take part in some of the conferences but not mandatory for all of them.
>
> --
> catwell
>

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

[ludovic coues]

If you are planning on moving to KDE4, wipe out KDE3 and install KDE4.

I'm moving to KDE unstable atm. Koffice was complaining at the begin,
so I've remove it as he want kde-base4.2

I'll tell you if there is any trouble in the upgrade.

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

[ludovic coues]

I'll dive into pacman logs. I've install koffice after upgrade and
log-out/in, and it have install like a charm :-\

I reply in a couple of minute.

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

[ludovic coues]

look like I'd installed koffice from aur, and haven't update it for some times.
I can't found the error message in pacman.log, but I have an install
in march, and that I've remove it today, plus a build in my home.

By the way, kde4.3 is really cool.

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

[ludovic coues]

> Err -- Ah Ha!
>
>   So Arch uses /opt/kde for both kde3 and kde4 instead of leaving kde3 as
> /opt/kde and installing kde4 in /usr/bin. That's got to be the difference
> and
> the reason I can't have both kde3 and kde4 live side-by-side?? Is that
> correct?
>
>


my /opt contain only openoffice, java and erlang stuff...
Nothing concerning kde.

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

[ludovic coues]

So I'm wondering why package are causing issues.
Try to do what pierre have said, install only kde-base, and add bit by bit.

As far as you have show, only kde-graphics refuse to install. Maybe
the issue is only here.

And on the other hand, desktop effects seems to not be driver related
problems for me. I've no glossy stuff like cube desktop, KDE refuse to
enable them, but I've now smooth login/logout and translucent windows
when moving them.
And all of this with movie player working smoothly, not like with KDE4.2

Re: [arch-general] kde-unstable install - Round 2 - There is a BUG here...

[ludovic coues]

look at package directory, and try to see if there is any leftover
after have removed kde.
There should be none, be there should be no bug too.

2009/6/18, David C. Rankin :
> On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:13:54 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>> On Wed, June 17, 2009 7:49 pm, David C. Rankin wrote:
>> > DR, List
>> >
>> >Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing
>> > kde-unstable
>> > on
>> > the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the
>> > exact
>> > setup on an i686 box where I am trying to install kde-unstable, but this
>> > time
>> > finding a way to do it without resorting to the '-f' option. On the box,
>> > I have kdemod3 installed and configured and I have never specifically
>> > installed
>> > kde4 from anywhere (I guess I got it by default with the Arch install).
>> >
>> >So far, all packages for kde-unstable have been downloaded to the i686
>> > box
>> > when I tried to install kde-unstable with 'pacman -Sy kde
>> > kde-extragear'.
>> > There were 2+ lines of conflicts of the following type:
>>
>> Egads!  How many times do I have to say it?!?!?
>>
>> 1) First UNINSTALL any existing KDE packages.
>> i.e., repeat:  pacman -Rs kde-
>>
>> 2) Then, install KDE from unstable.
>> i.e., pacman -S kde
>>
>> Sheesh!  :-)
>>
>> DR
>
> Err umm, DR, umm:
>
>   Did you miss this part, or are we somehow not communicating?
>
> [18:02 supersff:/home/david] # pacman -Rs kde k3b k9copy kdiff3
> kde not found, searching for group...
> :: group kde:
> kdebase-runtime  kdelibs  kdemultimedia
> Remove whole content? [Y/n]
>
>   then
>
> [18:21 supersff:/home/david] # pacman -Q | grep kde | grep -v kdemod3
> 
>
> pacman -Rs kdemod3-complete basket compizconfig-backend-kconfig filelight
> ksensors qcad
>
>   then I even confirmed with:
>
> pacman -Q -s | grep kde
> 
>
>   Then and only then did I
>
> pacman -S kde
>
>   and it still blew up with 2+ conflicts
>
>   What else could I have done??
>
>
>
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
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Re: [arch-general] okular print preview error

[ludovic coues]

2009/6/18, Nicolas Bigaouette :
> No, but that check box should disable it if there is any DRM in the pdf
> (which might not be the case for most pdf!)
>
> Maybe verify if the disk hosting /tmp is full? Try "df" to see if it is...
>
>
> 2009/6/14 prad 
>
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:12:52 +0200
>> Pierre Schmitz  wrote:
>>
>> > Did you disable DRM support in Okular?
>> >
>> pierre,
>> checking or unchecking the
>> Obey DRM limitations box
>> has no effect.
>>
>> is there another way to disable DRM?
>>
>> --
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>> prad
>>
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>> Towards Freedom
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>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement draft] New module-init-tools changes modprobe configuration file location

[ludovic coues]

I suppose that the location of this file isn't really important for the
system, as long as the system can put his hand on it.
And from my point of view, it's better to have a consistent system, in other
word all apps.conf file in /etc, side by side with the apps.d

my 2 cents

Re: [arch-general] PHP 5.2 makedepends

[ludovic coues]

2009/7/8 Dan Vratil 

> Hi,
> I'm trying to build PHP 5.3. I use PKGBUILD for current PHP 5.2.10 and I
> found
> there something weird in makedepends field. There are packages imap and
> smtp-
> server. Smtp-server is provided by courier-mta, but courier-mta conflicts
> with
> imap, so we have unresolvable conflict.
> I think this should be fixed (should I open bugzilla report?) or am I
> missing
> something?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
I get this error every time I compile php with the PKGBUILD. And this is an
issue for me, 'cause I need to change a compile flag with my yaws config.

If there is already a bugreport, sorry for the trouble.

Any way, if you know every others dep are OK, you may simply pass a -d
argument to makepkg. It's my way of doing thing. Probably wrong, as well as
my server's config, accessing php directly trough the binary, without any
redirection of anykind. PHP like to display warning for this.

Re: [arch-general] compile flags with ABS

[ludovic coues]

I need some compile flag for PHP. I'm using ABS for that.
The only thing I do is to change the "build" section in the PKGBUILD.

Can this help you for your app ?

Re: [arch-general] ext3 driver for windows

[ludovic coues]

I'm more concerned about compatibility between mac and ext3. Anyone have
tried before ?

Re: [arch-general] kde4.3-0.1 - Many plasma-addon package conflicts

[ludovic coues]

I've get problem with file owned by kdeplasma-addon-wallpaper, which belong
now to kdeplasma-addon-wallpaper-*
I've removed kdeplamsa-addon-wallpaper, and now the upgrade is going
smoothly.

Re: [arch-general] In defense of pacman.static

[ludovic coues]

It's a problem with the default pacman.conf I suppose.
By default, pacman is configured to upgrade itself first. If he have upgrade
itself, but forget to bring dependencies with it, it's a shame.

I think this is a bug with the FirstSync option in pacman.conf

Re: [arch-general] Relating to missing lzma manuals.

[ludovic coues]

lzma format and tools ahve never reach the stable stage. There are
stuck as beta, and have been replaced by .xz format.

from http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-file-format.txt:

"It is intended that this this format replace the old .lzma format
used by LZMA SDK and LZMA Utils."

So its probably an upstream problem.

Re: [arch-general] Weird png corruption issue from Gwenview using "crop" -> "Save As" -> to a smb share

[ludovic coues]

Firefox doesn't want to open the corrupt file, because it contain errors.
Maybe it's related to smb.
Have you try to simply "Save As" to the smb share ?

Re: [arch-general] kde4 Help system error - Arch or KDE error?

[ludovic coues]

As for as I know, this error means that there is no doc for this part of
konqueror config.
Amarok have the same issue.