At 11/8/2001 11:26 AM -0800, you wrote:
>It's not going to interfere with any other files on the system.
>That's the very reason for the unusual file locations.

Still, file locations are one thing; RPM package management is quite 
another. The "rpm -Uvh" and "rpm -e" commands are the very lifeblood of a 
beginner. :)

I am not criticizing djbdns (other than for the damned name); I am merely 
pointing out that beginners are not happy and comfortable with tarballs 
yet, get less confused when things are done in a consistent way, and have 
as yet only learned a very limited set of tools. So a package, however 
good, that disregards all of that is presenting a much harder learning curve.

I don't honestly know how truly trustworthy DJB is. But, assuming I can 
believe *everything* he says, BIND is awful for large systems. Fine. I have 
150 domains on my box on BIND and it works like a charm. Could there be a 
better way? I'm sure there could. Might djbdns be that better way? It 
could. But, for the beginner, is editing named.conf and creating a zonefile 
very hard? No.

For the beginner, learning everything required to run djbdns is harder than 
it is to get BIND up and running. BIND is installed, configured, and 
running as part of the OS installation; djbdns has to go through all that. 
There's a fair amount of learning to be done before one gets to that 
thorough documentation you mentioned...

The major difficulties I'm mentioning here are not inherent to djbdns, they 
are inherent to RedHat, Mandrake, et al. The BEGINNER knows so little, and 
needs to learn/do so much, that djbdns and other apps like it are 
off-limits right at first. BIND is not.

Like you, I am not selling software here. But the very reason I don't know 
anything about djbdns yet is all of the above concerns, all of which relate 
to anything being "beginner-friendly."

>Please don't misunderstand me here; I certainly appreciate the need to
>stick with what you know when you write howtos.

Not my point. The need to write a good HOWTO dicates what I need to learn. 
Integrity dictates that I only write about what I *actually* know today, 
lest I provide wrong information. Work required to learn and amount of 
learning to do dictate the time such learning takes.

In the case of djbdns, I need to lose my fear of tarballs, understand where 
all these files are going and why, learn the whole package and its 
configuration, then understand it well enough to write about it at least on 
a beginner's level. That could be 90% reduced if I had rpm query switches 
like -i, -l, -d, -U, and -e. See what I mean?

>I absolutely propose that a total newbie will be much more satisfied
>with djbdns than with BIND, and will grow to appreciate it all the
>more as he/she learns more about both.

Willing to believe you. BUT, I propose that a total newbie is unlikely to 
spend the time and effort to get djbdns working whereas BIND is already up 
and running. A total newbie likely won't *get* to the part where he/she 
discovers that djbdns is easier/better/whatever.


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Rodolfo J. Paiz
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