I think it is shocking that government bums like the US National Archives
should be practically giving away images, interfering with the sacred right
of Getty Images to eke out a modest living. Clearly the Archives must be
broken up and turned over to private sector people with a fundamental
understanding of, and true faith in, the bottom line.

Cheers

John Poirier




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> mike wilson
> Sent: May 22, 2007 6:16 AM
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> Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images
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> >
> > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images
> >
> > This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to
> > know about this major scam.
> >
> > It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could
> > buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5
> > each.  They bought thousands.  Now they are selling these same images
> > through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them.  The vast
> > majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by
> > government employees and are public domain.
> >
> > Here's just one example for anyone skeptical.  Getty image: 3090980
> >
> > On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943:
> > American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board
> > the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. (Photo by MPI/
> > Getty Images)"
> >
> >   http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt
> >
> > Now the same image from the US National Archives.
> >
> > To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to
> > the NARA ARC search engine:
> >
> > http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp
> >
> > click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a
> > search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896
> > (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to the right.
> >
> > National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80-
> > G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that image. The 80-
> > G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in
> > this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal.  The top page says
> > Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page
> > has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning
> > across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17
> > out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is
> > a link to the next page so Click that link..  This page is where the
> > truth lies.  At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer"
> > If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy
> > and headed the Navy's photographic team.  He was a US Government
> > employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in
> > the Public Domain.  This is noted earlier on this page by saying,
> > "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted"
> >
> > As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public.
> > Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to
> > these images and sell them.
> >
> > We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who
> > have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full
> > refund.
> >
>
> Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access
> Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted"
> what precisely are they doing wrong?
>
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