You want public domain stuff being managed by private companies? Weird thinking IMO.
2007/5/22, John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think it is shocking that government bums like the US National Archives > should be practically giving away images, interfering with the sacred right > of Getty Images to eke out a modest living. Clearly the Archives must be > broken up and turned over to private sector people with a fundamental > understanding of, and true faith in, the bottom line. > > Cheers > > John Poirier > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > mike wilson > > Sent: May 22, 2007 6:16 AM > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images > > > > > > This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to > > > know about this major scam. > > > > > > It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could > > > buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5 > > > each. They bought thousands. Now they are selling these same images > > > through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them. The vast > > > majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by > > > government employees and are public domain. > > > > > > Here's just one example for anyone skeptical. Getty image: 3090980 > > > > > > On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943: > > > American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board > > > the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. (Photo by MPI/ > > > Getty Images)" > > > > > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt > > > > > > Now the same image from the US National Archives. > > > > > > To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to > > > the NARA ARC search engine: > > > > > > http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp > > > > > > click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a > > > search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896 > > > (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to the right. > > > > > > National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80- > > > G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that image. The 80- > > > G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in > > > this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal. The top page says > > > Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page > > > has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning > > > across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17 > > > out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is > > > a link to the next page so Click that link.. This page is where the > > > truth lies. At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer" > > > If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy > > > and headed the Navy's photographic team. He was a US Government > > > employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in > > > the Public Domain. This is noted earlier on this page by saying, > > > "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" > > > > > > As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public. > > > Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to > > > these images and sell them. > > > > > > We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who > > > have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full > > > refund. > > > > > > > Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access > > Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" > > what precisely are they doing wrong? > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille ---------------------- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

