Well I lost graywolf.com because of this stuff when the government turn the administration of domain names over to a private corporation along with the right to charge for same. When I became ill and could not work I could not pay the fee $60 for 2 years back then. Sucks to high heaven if you ask me. My feelings about copyright is that it should only extend to the life of the author, and only 20 years in the case of corporations. Actually, from a personal point of view I think 20 years is enough in any case. Very little has any real commercial value after that point. Actually copyright only protects those who have the funds to litigate the case anyway.
John Poirier wrote: > You got that right, Adam! > > > Thibouille is right in saying that my tongue-in-cheek proposition would be > considered weird thinking by many. However, it's not so weird in the > corporate world. A number of years ago the US Congress gave in to corporate > lobbying with the following legislation: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act > > It would not surprise me in the least to learn that there is a quiet lobby > from corporations in the media business to have publicly owned materials > turned over to them for "management". > > As a Canadian I have watched governments at all levels facilitate the > looting of public assets in the name of "privatization". We know where they > got that idea- from Ronnie Ray Guns and his cronies. > > Cheers > > John Poirier > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: May 22, 2007 9:25 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images >> >> >> I think your sarcasm meter is broken ;-) >> >> -Adam >> >> Thibouille wrote: >>> You want public domain stuff being managed by private companies? >>> Weird thinking IMO. >>> >>> 2007/5/22, John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>> I think it is shocking that government bums like the US >> National Archives >>>> should be practically giving away images, interfering with the >> sacred right >>>> of Getty Images to eke out a modest living. Clearly the >> Archives must be >>>> broken up and turned over to private sector people with a fundamental >>>> understanding of, and true faith in, the bottom line. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> John Poirier >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >>>>> mike wilson >>>>> Sent: May 22, 2007 6:16 AM >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT >>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images >>>>>> >>>>>> This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to >>>>>> know about this major scam. >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could >>>>>> buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5 >>>>>> each. They bought thousands. Now they are selling these same images >>>>>> through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them. The vast >>>>>> majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by >>>>>> government employees and are public domain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's just one example for anyone skeptical. Getty image: 3090980 >>>>>> >>>>>> On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943: >>>>>> American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board >>>>>> the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. >> (Photo by MPI/ >>>>>> Getty Images)" >>>>>> >>>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt >>>>>> >>>>>> Now the same image from the US National Archives. >>>>>> >>>>>> To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to >>>>>> the NARA ARC search engine: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp >>>>>> >>>>>> click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a >>>>>> search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896 >>>>>> (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to >> the right. >>>>>> National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80- >>>>>> G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that >> image. The 80- >>>>>> G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in >>>>>> this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal. The top page says >>>>>> Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page >>>>>> has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning >>>>>> across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17 >>>>>> out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is >>>>>> a link to the next page so Click that link.. This page is where the >>>>>> truth lies. At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer" >>>>>> If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy >>>>>> and headed the Navy's photographic team. He was a US Government >>>>>> employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in >>>>>> the Public Domain. This is noted earlier on this page by saying, >>>>>> "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" >>>>>> >>>>>> As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public. >>>>>> Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to >>>>>> these images and sell them. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who >>>>>> have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full >>>>>> refund. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access >>>>> Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" >>>>> what precisely are they doing wrong? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>>> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email >>>>> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
