You got that right, Adam!
Thibouille is right in saying that my tongue-in-cheek proposition would be considered weird thinking by many. However, it's not so weird in the corporate world. A number of years ago the US Congress gave in to corporate lobbying with the following legislation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act It would not surprise me in the least to learn that there is a quiet lobby from corporations in the media business to have publicly owned materials turned over to them for "management". As a Canadian I have watched governments at all levels facilitate the looting of public assets in the name of "privatization". We know where they got that idea- from Ronnie Ray Guns and his cronies. Cheers John Poirier > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: May 22, 2007 9:25 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images > > > I think your sarcasm meter is broken ;-) > > -Adam > > Thibouille wrote: > > You want public domain stuff being managed by private companies? > > Weird thinking IMO. > > > > 2007/5/22, John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> I think it is shocking that government bums like the US > National Archives > >> should be practically giving away images, interfering with the > sacred right > >> of Getty Images to eke out a modest living. Clearly the > Archives must be > >> broken up and turned over to private sector people with a fundamental > >> understanding of, and true faith in, the bottom line. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> John Poirier > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>> mike wilson > >>> Sent: May 22, 2007 6:16 AM > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT > >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images > >>>> > >>>> This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to > >>>> know about this major scam. > >>>> > >>>> It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could > >>>> buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5 > >>>> each. They bought thousands. Now they are selling these same images > >>>> through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them. The vast > >>>> majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by > >>>> government employees and are public domain. > >>>> > >>>> Here's just one example for anyone skeptical. Getty image: 3090980 > >>>> > >>>> On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943: > >>>> American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board > >>>> the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. > (Photo by MPI/ > >>>> Getty Images)" > >>>> > >>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt > >>>> > >>>> Now the same image from the US National Archives. > >>>> > >>>> To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to > >>>> the NARA ARC search engine: > >>>> > >>>> http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp > >>>> > >>>> click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a > >>>> search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896 > >>>> (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to > the right. > >>>> > >>>> National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80- > >>>> G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that > image. The 80- > >>>> G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in > >>>> this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal. The top page says > >>>> Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page > >>>> has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning > >>>> across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17 > >>>> out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is > >>>> a link to the next page so Click that link.. This page is where the > >>>> truth lies. At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer" > >>>> If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy > >>>> and headed the Navy's photographic team. He was a US Government > >>>> employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in > >>>> the Public Domain. This is noted earlier on this page by saying, > >>>> "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" > >>>> > >>>> As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public. > >>>> Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to > >>>> these images and sell them. > >>>> > >>>> We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who > >>>> have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full > >>>> refund. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access > >>> Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" > >>> what precisely are they doing wrong? > >>> > >>> > >>> ----------------------------------------- > >>> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > >>> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
