I think your sarcasm meter is broken ;-) -Adam
Thibouille wrote: > You want public domain stuff being managed by private companies? > Weird thinking IMO. > > 2007/5/22, John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I think it is shocking that government bums like the US National Archives >> should be practically giving away images, interfering with the sacred right >> of Getty Images to eke out a modest living. Clearly the Archives must be >> broken up and turned over to private sector people with a fundamental >> understanding of, and true faith in, the bottom line. >> >> Cheers >> >> John Poirier >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >>> mike wilson >>> Sent: May 22, 2007 6:16 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images >>>> >>>> This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to >>>> know about this major scam. >>>> >>>> It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could >>>> buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5 >>>> each. They bought thousands. Now they are selling these same images >>>> through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them. The vast >>>> majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by >>>> government employees and are public domain. >>>> >>>> Here's just one example for anyone skeptical. Getty image: 3090980 >>>> >>>> On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943: >>>> American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board >>>> the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. (Photo by MPI/ >>>> Getty Images)" >>>> >>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt >>>> >>>> Now the same image from the US National Archives. >>>> >>>> To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to >>>> the NARA ARC search engine: >>>> >>>> http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp >>>> >>>> click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a >>>> search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896 >>>> (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to the right. >>>> >>>> National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80- >>>> G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that image. The 80- >>>> G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in >>>> this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal. The top page says >>>> Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page >>>> has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning >>>> across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17 >>>> out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is >>>> a link to the next page so Click that link.. This page is where the >>>> truth lies. At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer" >>>> If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy >>>> and headed the Navy's photographic team. He was a US Government >>>> employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in >>>> the Public Domain. This is noted earlier on this page by saying, >>>> "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" >>>> >>>> As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public. >>>> Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to >>>> these images and sell them. >>>> >>>> We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who >>>> have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full >>>> refund. >>>> >>>> >>> Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access >>> Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted" >>> what precisely are they doing wrong? >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email >>> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
