And that right there is why I will go toe to toe with management over
firing someone for making a simple mistake even if it affects production
systems.  That person just learned the tough lesson and will modify their
behavior henceforth to be more careful making them a better employee.  I
understand that sometime there is no option but to fire the person (i.e.
the case where the stock brokerage ended up losing ~$100 million) but in
general that is the person you now want to keep as they won't ever make
that mistake again.

Andy


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote:

> First UNIX admin job, logged into server thinking it was the local desktop
> and rebooted it.  Lots of egg on the face and lots of wasted end user
> hours.
>
> I took drastic action to triple verify where I was logged in after that.
>  Sometimes being a bit OCD is learned by not being OCD enough.
>
> I had also shut down mainframes before that with similar results (a few
> times on purpose, a couple of times accidently when working as a systems
> programmer in a large IBM shop).  Mainframes had 2000 logged in (about 8000
> users in the directory that could log in) and Unix machine only had about
> 200 users (it was where their home directories were located over NFS).
>
> Never really got into trouble for it, but I flogged myself more than any
> boss ever would over the issue. ... such is life.  We go on.  Company
> survived.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Allen Minix <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:23:47 AM UTC-5, Howard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm looking on the wrong server.  Move along, these are not the
>>> droids you are looking for.
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>
>> If I had a nickel for every time I've done that...
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> "Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new." -
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