On 12/16/11 11:15 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/16/11 11:09 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/11 9:09 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>>> On 12/16/11 1:23 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> In a non-anonymous room, the 'from' attribute of a discussion history
>>>>>>> message SHOULD be the full JID of the original sender. In a
>>>>>>> semi-anonymous room, the 'from' attribute MUST be set to the JID of the
>>>>>>> room itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we have discussed (and I think had consensus) that the from
>>>>>> should be stamped with the entity doing the delay stamping, and that
>>>>>> we should add an element to the stanza to tell you who the originator
>>>>>> was (where anonymity permits).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the unlikely event that I dreamed this, I propose the above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I recall discussion about that, too. Let me check the interim
>>>>> version of XEP-0045 to confirm.
>>>>
>>>> Changed in my working copy to:
>>>>
>>>> Discussion history messages MUST be stamped with Delayed Delivery
>>>> [14] information qualified by the 'urn:xmpp:delay' namespace to
>>>> indicate that they are sent with delayed delivery and to specify the
>>>> times at which they were originally sent. The 'from' attribute MUST
>>>> be set to the JID of the room itself.
>>>
>>> Great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we want to add another element giving the original JID?
>>
>> Not needed, methinks. The XML looks like this:
>>
>> <message
>> from='[email protected]/firstwitch'
>> id='162BEBB1-F6DB-4D9A-9BD8-CFDCC801A0B2'
>> to='[email protected]/broom'
>> type='groupchat'>
>> <body>Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.</body>
>> <delay xmlns='urn:xmpp:delay'
>> from='[email protected]'
>> stamp='2002-10-13T23:58:37Z'/>
>> </message>
>>
>> Do you mean the original real JID, not occupant JID?
>
> I do - to replicate the previous case where the stamping of the delay
> told us that.
Sigh, probably. :)
In fact, we already have the tools for this in XEP-0033.
So we'd do this:
<message
from='[email protected]/firstwitch'
id='162BEBB1-F6DB-4D9A-9BD8-CFDCC801A0B2'
to='[email protected]/broom'
type='groupchat'>
<body>Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.</body>
<delay xmlns='urn:xmpp:delay'
from='[email protected]'
stamp='2002-10-13T23:58:37Z'/>
<addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'>
<address type='ofrom' jid='[email protected]/desktop'/>
</addresses>
</message>
A few notes:
1. This would be purely optional.
2. This applies only to non-anonymous rooms.
3. There are complexities (e.g., what if the room configuration changed
from semi-anonymous to non-anonymous after the message was sent to the
room but before it was delivered as delayed?). Any server that
implements this feature would need to deal with those complexities, but
I suppose they already do.
/psa
