All these questions have been thoroughly discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please 
search the archives for detailed information. I'll add quick notes as 
I'm waiting for something to finish right now and have a quick moment 
with nothing better to do.

It's worth noting that I'm not a developer, so I'm certainly not 
speaking _ex_cathedra._

On 2005 May 9, at 8:16 AM, Sascha Retzki wrote:

> 1.) Do you plan to distribute several MTAs, like NetBSD currently 
> does? Or
> do you already (first check said no, but maybe I missed something)?

OpenBSD ships with Sendmail. Other MTAs are available as ports. Unless 
Sendmail is replaced by something written from scratch (and I 
personally have a completely uninformed hunch that this will happen, 
hopefully sooner rather than later), it's the only MTA that OpenBSD 
will ship with.

> 2.) Do you plan to distribute PAM in base?

No. OpenBSD uses (surprise!) BSD authentication, which solves the same 
basic set of problems. See bsd_auth(3) for details.

> 3.) Did anybody look close enough on TenDRA yet? I'd like to know how 
> much
> GNUism is in OpenBSDs base, building mechanism, so basicly it adds up 
> to:
> How long do we/you have to wait till TenDRA can be used?

Replacing the toolchain is a mammoth undertaking. Even if TenDRA is up 
to the task, it's not something to be undertaken lightly. I expect it 
to happen eventually, but not for a long, long time. Even then, it 
might not necessarily be TenDRA that replaces GCC/EGCS, but something 
else.

> 3.2.) Even if the compiler/debugger/linker stuff runs on BSDLed code 
> from
> the TenDRA people, do you roughly know how much software in base is 
> GPL/GNU,
> and how much of that must be there?

There's not much left; see /usr/src/gnu. Of course, even though the 
list it short, it still includes things like GCC and Perl, so ``not 
much'' is quite a relative term.

> 4.) I saw lkm-stuff in your tree, do you want the same situation as 
> linux has,
> like that "too much" is modulized, or do you want that API for 
> situations
> where kernel mods are the only bearable solution?

It's my impression that adding stuff to the kernel while it's running 
is anathema. Heck, even just compiling custom kernels is rather frowned 
upon. It's really a solution to a problem that rarely, if ever, exists 
in the real world. It's also a solution that causes far more problems 
than it ever solves.

> 5.) What do you think about devfs? Will it be there in the near or far
> future?

I doubt it. There's little or no need; the traditional way works fine. 
Virtual filesystems of any kind are easy to slap together and very hard 
to get right.

> 6.) Do you guys like X11R6? Would you remove it if $somebody comes up 
> with
> some basic window-manager-alike basing on something simple like 
> svgalibs?
> Or, rather, would you distribute that in base, too?

Unix uses X for its windowing environment. If and when this ever 
changes, I'm sure The Powers That Be will consider the alternatives.

Until then, this is like asking if people like using spoons for their 
soup, and if they'd consider using some spoon-like tool instead if it 
were ever invented, worked better than a spoon, and everybody else 
started using it.

Cheers,

b&

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