----- Original Message ---- > From: Glen Daniels <g...@thoughtcraft.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org; matthieu.r...@gmail.com; Paul Fremantle ><pzf...@gmail.com> > Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 1:03:40 PM > Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > > Hey y'all: > > From my POV, I signed up as a mentor for this project but haven't really been > involved - I'm pretty sure this is true for Paul as well. Matthieu was > initially doing good stuff (ODE was the original sponsoring project), but > doesn't seem to have been engaged for months now either. I just got on the > private list last night, actually, so I guess that list had only Matthieu on > it up until now?
Looks that way to me. > > There is clearly some stuff that needs fixing here, and it's on Matthieu, > Paul, and myself to either make this happen, or find other mentors that will. > At the least - Rafal, and all the other original committers, should be on > the PPMC. The project page should be updated. Is there anything else that > needs doing immediately? > > I'll take a crack at updating the project page with the current status, and > making sure the committers/initial PPMC members are in fact subscribed to the > private list. Question - process-wise, is it OK for me to simply bulk > subscribe the original committers to the private list (I'm assuming I have > ezmlm karma to do that) since they should have been there already, or should > I mail them and ask them to subscribe themselves? Either approach is fine IMO. Thanks for getting on top of this. > > Thanks, > --Glen > > On 9/25/2010 10:26 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before > > "fixing" this please. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > >>> NFI. Not something I would've done. > >> > >> So my view is that the vote to establish the podling, accepting the > >> proposal that is sitting on the Wiki, convened that group as the > >> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC members, do we need another > >> vote to fix this, or can someone just repair? > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ---- > >>>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > >>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >>>> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> None of the committers on hise are on the private list. It's > >>>>> manned by 2 mentors only. > >>>> > >>>> Joe, > >>>> > >>>> How did that happen? I thought that the initial PPMC was always loaded > >>>> with the initial non-mentor committers. Shouldn't all of the following > >>>> people from the original proposal be loaded onto private and declared > >>>> the PPMC retroactively? > >>>> > >>>> Jakub Kurlenda <j...@touk.pl> > >>>> Mateusz Lipczyński <m...@touk.pl> > >>>> Michał Zalewski <m...@touk.pl> > >>>> Rafał Rusin <r...@apache.org> > >>>> Ula Trzaskowska <u...@touk.pl> > >>>> Warren Crossing <w...@touk.pl> > >>>> Witek Wołejszo <w...@touk.pl> > >>>> > >>>> --benson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That should be fixed asap- you've > >>>>> personally done more than enough work on hise to be on the pmc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- > >>>>>> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >>>> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >>>>>> > >>>> >> On 25 September 2010 18:47, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> >> > Rafal, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Your message doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the PPMC > > members > >>>> >> > of the project should be on the hise-private mailing list, and > >> should > >>>>>>> be involved in the discussion about a proposed new committer. > >>>>>>> Once > >> the > >>>>>>> PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote then has > >>>>>>> to > >> run > >>>>>>> on the incubator PMC list (except for those podlings in Joe S's > >>>>>> > experiment) to get formal approval. Typically, as I understand > >>>>>> it, > > >> the > >>>>>>> PPMC votes to go ahead and ask for an Incubator PMC vote. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does HISE distinguish podling committers from PPMC members? > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so this message > >> will > >>>>>>> go into moderation there. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > --benson > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from committers. > >>>>>> The problem is that for example I am a committer, not PPMC member >and > >>>>>> I don't have access to hise-private (that's why I've sent blind > >>>>>> request there to start vote). On the other hand, we have no >response > >>>>>> from existing PPMC members. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal Rusin > > <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin > >> <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>wrote: > >>>>>> >>>> Hello, > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I submitted a month ago blind request to hise-private to > >>>>>> start > >> vote > >>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since then, I haven't got any > >>>>>>>>>> response. > >>>>>> >>>> Since HISE committers community needs to grow, I'm asking for > >>>>>>>>>> potential new mentors willing to join hise-private list in HISE > >>>> >> >>>> project (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/). > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> Any reason for no votes from any of the existent committers ? >The > >>>> Hise > >>>>>> >>> project page mentions 7 existent committers [1]. > >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> This is good question. As I understand procedure for nominating > >>>>>>>> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private needs to >be > >>>>>> >> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing committers > >>>>>> > >> don't > >>>>>>>> play role here. That's why we haven't started any voting on > >> hise-dev. > >>>>>> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Currently we have 3 candidates to vote (Piotr Zagórski, Paweł > >>>>>> >>>> Byszewski, Michał Więcław), who made substantial > >>>>>> contributions > > >> to > >>> the > >>>>>> >>>> project. > >>>>>>>>>> We also have a fresh new candidate Akhilesh Singh, who currently > >>>> made > >>>>>> >>>> 4 committed patches and looks very promising to become new > >>> committer. > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I'd recommend discussing personnel related stuff in the private > > AT > >>>>>> >>> incubator DOT apache DOT org > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> OK, thanks. > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> -- > >>>>>> >>> Luciano Resende > >>>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende > >>>>>> >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > >>>>>>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >> >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>> Rafał Rusin > >>>>>> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>> >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> >> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafał Rusin > >>>>>> http://rrusin.blogspot.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> >> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ; > > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> ; To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ; To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To o unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
