Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before
"fixing" this please.




----- Original Message ----
> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM
> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
> 
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>  
wrote:
> > NFI.  Not something I would've done.
> 
> So my view is that  the vote to establish the podling, accepting the
> proposal that is sitting on  the Wiki, convened that group as the
> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC  members, do we need another
> vote to fix this, or can someone just  repair?
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message  ----
> >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>  Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: HISE  community needs to grow
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06  PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
> >  wrote:
> >> > None of the committers on hise are on the private list.    It's
> >> > manned by 2 mentors only.
> >>
> >>  Joe,
> >>
> >> How did that happen?  I thought that the initial  PPMC was always loaded
> >> with the initial non-mentor  committers.  Shouldn't all of the following
> >> people from the original proposal  be  loaded onto private and declared
> >> the PPMC  retroactively?
> >>
> >> Jakub  Kurlenda <j...@touk.pl>
> >> Mateusz Lipczyński  <m...@touk.pl>
> >> Michał Zalewski <m...@touk.pl>
> >> Rafał Rusin <r...@apache.org>
> >> Ula Trzaskowska  <u...@touk.pl>
> >> Warren Crossing <w...@touk.pl>
> >> Witek Wołejszo <w...@touk.pl>
> >>
> >>  --benson
> >>
> >>
> >>  That  should be fixed asap-  you've
> >> > personally done more than enough work on  hise to be on  the pmc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  >
> >> > ----- Original  Message ----
> >> >> From:  Rafal Rusin <rafal.ru...@gmail.com>
> >>  >>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>  >>  Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM
> >> >>  Subject: Re: HISE  community needs to grow
> >> >>
> >>  >> On 25 September 2010 18:47,  Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>  >> >  Rafal,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Your  message  doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the  PPMC 
members
> >>  >> > of the  project should be on the hise-private mailing list,  and  
>should
> >> >> >  be involved in the discussion about a proposed  new committer.  Once 
> the
> >> >> > PPMC decides that they want  to add a committer, a vote then  has  to 
>run
> >> >> > on the  incubator PMC list (except for those  podlings in Joe  S's
> >> >>  > experiment) to get formal approval.  Typically, as I understand it,  
> the
> >> >> > PPMC votes to go ahead and  ask for an Incubator  PMC  vote.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Does HISE   distinguish podling committers from PPMC  members?
> >> >>  >
> >> >>  > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists  so  this message 
> will
> >> >> > go into moderation  there.
> >> >> >
> >> >>  >   --benson
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC  members from  committers.
> >> >> The  problem is that for example  I am a committer, not  PPMC member and
> >> >> I don't  have access  to hise-private (that's why  I've sent blind
> >> >> request there  to  start vote). On the other hand, we  have no response
> >> >>  from existing PPMC   members.
> >> >>
> >> >>  >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat,  Sep 25, 2010  at 9:42 PM, Rafal  Rusin 
<rafal.ru...@gmail.com>
> >>  >  wrote:
> >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano  Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal  Rusin 
> <rafal.ru...@gmail.com>
> >>  >>wrote:
> >> >>  >>>> Hello,
> >>  >> >>>>
> >> >>  >>>> I  submitted a  month ago blind request to hise-private to start 
> vote
> >>  to
> >> >> >>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since   then, I haven't  got any
> >> >> >>>>  response.
> >> >>  >>>> Since HISE committers   community needs to grow, I'm asking  for
> >> >> >>>>  potential new  mentors willing to join  hise-private list in HISE
> >>  >> >>>> project    (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/).
> >> >>  >>>
> >> >>  >>> Any reason  for no votes from  any of the existent committers ? The
> >>Hise
> >> >>  >>>  project page mentions 7 existent committers  [1].
> >>  >> >>>
> >> >> >>>    http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html
> >> >>  >>
> >> >>  >> This is  good question. As I understand  procedure for  nominating
> >> >> >> committers  for  podlings, blind request to  hise-private needs to be
> >> >>  >> sent and  then mentors decide  during voting. Existing committers  
>don't
> >> >> >> play  role here.  That's why we haven't  started any voting on 
> hise-dev.
> >> >>  >>
> >>  >> >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >>   >>>>
> >> >> >>>>  Currently we have 3  candidates to  vote (Piotr Zagórski,  Paweł
> >> >>  >>>> Byszewski, Michał  Więcław), who made substantial   contributions 
>to
> > the
> >> >>  >>>>  project.
> >> >> >>>> We also  have a fresh new   candidate Akhilesh Singh, who currently
> >> made
> >> >>  >>>> 4  committed patches and looks very promising to become   new
> > committer.
> >> >>  >>>>
> >>  >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I'd recommend    discussing personnel related stuff in the private 
AT
> >> >>  >>>  incubator  DOT apache DOT org
> >> >>  >>
> >> >> >> OK,   thanks.
> >> >>  >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >>   >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >>  >>>  --
> >> >>  >>> Luciano Resende
> >>  >> >>>   http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >> >>  >>>   http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >> >> >>>    http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >>   --
> >> >> >>  Regards,
> >> >> >> Rafał Rusin
> >> >>   >>  http://rrusin.blogspot.com
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> Rafał Rusin
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