Hey y'all: >From my POV, I signed up as a mentor for this project but haven't really been involved - I'm pretty sure this is true for Paul as well. Matthieu was initially doing good stuff (ODE was the original sponsoring project), but doesn't seem to have been engaged for months now either. I just got on the private list last night, actually, so I guess that list had only Matthieu on it up until now?
There is clearly some stuff that needs fixing here, and it's on Matthieu, Paul, and myself to either make this happen, or find other mentors that will. At the least - Rafal, and all the other original committers, should be on the PPMC. The project page should be updated. Is there anything else that needs doing immediately? I'll take a crack at updating the project page with the current status, and making sure the committers/initial PPMC members are in fact subscribed to the private list. Question - process-wise, is it OK for me to simply bulk subscribe the original committers to the private list (I'm assuming I have ezmlm karma to do that) since they should have been there already, or should I mail them and ask them to subscribe themselves? Thanks, --Glen On 9/25/2010 10:26 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before > "fixing" this please. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow >> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > wrote: >>> NFI. Not something I would've done. >> >> So my view is that the vote to establish the podling, accepting the >> proposal that is sitting on the Wiki, convened that group as the >> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC members, do we need another >> vote to fix this, or can someone just repair? >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> >>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> None of the committers on hise are on the private list. It's >>>>> manned by 2 mentors only. >>>> >>>> Joe, >>>> >>>> How did that happen? I thought that the initial PPMC was always loaded >>>> with the initial non-mentor committers. Shouldn't all of the following >>>> people from the original proposal be loaded onto private and declared >>>> the PPMC retroactively? >>>> >>>> Jakub Kurlenda <j...@touk.pl> >>>> Mateusz Lipczyński <m...@touk.pl> >>>> Michał Zalewski <m...@touk.pl> >>>> Rafał Rusin <r...@apache.org> >>>> Ula Trzaskowska <u...@touk.pl> >>>> Warren Crossing <w...@touk.pl> >>>> Witek Wołejszo <w...@touk.pl> >>>> >>>> --benson >>>> >>>> >>>> That should be fixed asap- you've >>>>> personally done more than enough work on hise to be on the pmc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> >>>> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow >>>>>> >>>> >> On 25 September 2010 18:47, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> > Rafal, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your message doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the PPMC > members >>>> >> > of the project should be on the hise-private mailing list, and >> should >>>>>>> be involved in the discussion about a proposed new committer. Once >> the >>>>>>> PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote then has to >> run >>>>>>> on the incubator PMC list (except for those podlings in Joe S's >>>>>> > experiment) to get formal approval. Typically, as I understand it, >> the >>>>>>> PPMC votes to go ahead and ask for an Incubator PMC vote. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does HISE distinguish podling committers from PPMC members? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so this message >> will >>>>>>> go into moderation there. >>>>>>> >>>>>> > --benson >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from committers. >>>>>> The problem is that for example I am a committer, not PPMC member and >>>>>> I don't have access to hise-private (that's why I've sent blind >>>>>> request there to start vote). On the other hand, we have no response >>>>>> from existing PPMC members. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal Rusin > <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin >> <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> >>>> >>wrote: >>>>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> I submitted a month ago blind request to hise-private to start >> vote >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since then, I haven't got any >>>>>>>>>> response. >>>>>> >>>> Since HISE committers community needs to grow, I'm asking for >>>>>>>>>> potential new mentors willing to join hise-private list in HISE >>>> >> >>>> project (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Any reason for no votes from any of the existent committers ? The >>>> Hise >>>>>> >>> project page mentions 7 existent committers [1]. >>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> This is good question. As I understand procedure for nominating >>>>>>>> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private needs to be >>>>>> >> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing committers >> don't >>>>>>>> play role here. That's why we haven't started any voting on >> hise-dev. >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Currently we have 3 candidates to vote (Piotr Zagórski, Paweł >>>>>> >>>> Byszewski, Michał Więcław), who made substantial contributions >> to >>> the >>>>>> >>>> project. >>>>>>>>>> We also have a fresh new candidate Akhilesh Singh, who currently >>>> made >>>>>> >>>> 4 committed patches and looks very promising to become new >>> committer. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> I'd recommend discussing personnel related stuff in the private > AT >>>>>> >>> incubator DOT apache DOT org >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> OK, thanks. >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>> >>> Luciano Resende >>>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende >>>>>> >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975 >>>>>>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Rafał Rusin >>>>>> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> > >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Rafał Rusin >>>>>> http://rrusin.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
