It's not a policy question. Mentors have some discretion in how they organize a community initially. This is probably just some oversight in that process. It'll get sorted eventually, but the ASF doesn't operate on instantaneous timetables.
----- Original Message ---- > From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:30:02 PM > Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > > Certainly. I didn't mean to imply any sort of instant action, I was > just trying to clarify the policy question. > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >wrote: > > Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before > > "fixing" this please. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > >> > NFI. Not something I would've done. > >> > >> So my view is that the vote to establish the podling, accepting the > >> proposal that is sitting on the Wiki, convened that group as the > >> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC members, do we need another > >> vote to fix this, or can someone just repair? > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > None of the committers on hise are on the private list. It's > >> >> > manned by 2 mentors only. > >> >> > >> >> Joe, > >> >> > >> >> How did that happen? I thought that the initial PPMC was always loaded > >> >> with the initial non-mentor committers. Shouldn't all of the following > >> >> people from the original proposal be loaded onto private and declared > >> >> the PPMC retroactively? > >> >> > >> >> Jakub Kurlenda <j...@touk.pl> > >> >> Mateusz Lipczyński <m...@touk.pl> > >> >> Michał Zalewski <m...@touk.pl> > >> >> Rafał Rusin <r...@apache.org> > >> >> Ula Trzaskowska <u...@touk.pl> > >> >> Warren Crossing <w...@touk.pl> > >> >> Witek Wołejszo <w...@touk.pl> > >> >> > >> >> --benson > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> That should be fixed asap- you've > >> >> > personally done more than enough work on hise to be on the pmc. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> >> >> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM > >> >> >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 18:47, Benson Margulies ><bimargul...@gmail.com> > >> >>wrote: > >> >> >> > Rafal, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Your message doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the PPMC > > members > >> >> >> > of the project should be on the hise-private mailing list, and > >>should > >> >> >> > be involved in the discussion about a proposed new committer. > Once > >> the > >> >> >> > PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote then > >> has > to > >>run > >> >> >> > on the incubator PMC list (except for those podlings in Joe S's > >> >> >> > experiment) to get formal approval. Typically, as I understand >it, > >> the > >> >> >> > PPMC votes to go ahead and ask for an Incubator PMC vote. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Does HISE distinguish podling committers from PPMC members? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so this >message > >> will > >> >> >> > go into moderation there. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > --benson > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from committers. > >> >> >> The problem is that for example I am a committer, not PPMC > >> member >and > >> >> >> I don't have access to hise-private (that's why I've sent blind > >> >> >> request there to start vote). On the other hand, we have no >response > >> >> >> from existing PPMC members. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal Rusin > > <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende ><luckbr1...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin > >> <rafal.ru...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> Hello, > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> I submitted a month ago blind request to hise-private to >start > >> vote > >> >> to > >> >> >> >>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since then, I haven't > >> got >any > >> >> >> >>>> response. > >> >> >> >>>> Since HISE committers community needs to grow, I'm asking > for > >> >> >> >>>> potential new mentors willing to join hise-private list in >HISE > >> >> >> >>>> project (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/). > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Any reason for no votes from any of the existent committers > >> >> >> ? >The > >> >>Hise > >> >> >> >>> project page mentions 7 existent committers [1]. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> This is good question. As I understand procedure for > nominating > >> >> >> >> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private needs > >> >> >> >> to >be > >> >> >> >> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing committers > >>don't > >> >> >> >> play role here. That's why we haven't started any voting on > >> hise-dev. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> Currently we have 3 candidates to vote (Piotr Zagórski, > Paweł > >> >> >> >>>> Byszewski, Michał Więcław), who made substantial >contributions > >>to > >> > the > >> >> >> >>>> project. > >> >> >> >>>> We also have a fresh new candidate Akhilesh Singh, who >currently > >> >> made > >> >> >> >>>> 4 committed patches and looks very promising to become new > >> > committer. > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> I'd recommend discussing personnel related stuff in the >private > > AT > >> >> >> >>> incubator DOT apache DOT org > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> OK, thanks. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >> >>> Luciano Resende > >> >> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende > >> >> >> >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > >> >> >> >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> Regards, > >> >> >> >> Rafał Rusin > >> >> >> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Regards, > >> >> >> Rafał Rusin > >> >> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
