Hi Guys, >From my point of view, it would be nice for podlings with active mentors to be >able to guide their own decisions, especially if there are 3 active mentors >and they approve. For example in our case in OODT, we can achieve consensus >and obtain much of the necessary VOTEs and oversight from our mentors like >Justin and Ian and myself.
Also, I'm not sure that teaching the podlings that once they do a committer VOTE with the PPMC that they then have to do an IPMC vote after that is really teaching them the Apache way b/c this isn't the way it'll work when they graduate. I think so long as there are active mentors shepherding the experienced PMC role on the project, then VOTEs at the PPMC level should be all that's required. If IPMC = collection of all PPMC members (after pruning those that aren't active, etc.), that would be fine with me. My 2 cents, Chris On 8/16/10 9:45 AM, "Justin Erenkrantz" <jus...@erenkrantz.com> wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Noel J. Bergman <n...@devtech.com> wrote: > And if the Mentors aren't being active, voting, etc., then *that* is what > needs to be addressed. As I've repeatedly stated before (here and elsewhere), in the podlings I've been recently involved with, having three mentors isn't the issue. It's the PMC members who aren't involved sticking their nose in and trying to poison the community. > We have one of the largest PMCs in the ASF. If we I view this as potentially the crux of the problem - people who aren't stakeholders in the community shouldn't have a say. Right now, they feel they do. So, if we want to mandate at least 3 mentors - fine, but that must come at the cost of telling the rest of the IPMC to go away - unless they actively contribute to the community and earn merit...of course. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
