Misinformation??? Refute what I said about having a separate site without getting emotional please.
On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 6:18 PM Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]> wrote: > The misinformation you write requires a little bit of correction, even > if it will not improve the discussion or change anybodies mind. Trench war. > > Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > > I’m not entirely sure why them being companies is relevant to whether > > this separation makes sense or not. Could you provide an argument that > > makes this clear? > > May it occur to you that the needs of a company with many products and > departments are different from our project? > Also... you think it is fine to compare what Apple or IBM do, but then > when i compare to another project which is not exactly the same thing. > Amazing. > Different departments? I am talking about organization of information. Amazing. :) > A typical reason they need to gather a "developer.xxx.com" domain is > because they have a lot of other thigns and also because often it needs > registration and different levels of access. Apple too is a perfect > example for that. > We don't need that. We just have github, everything is free. it just > says there. > > Refute what I said in my previous email. It helps to organize information and put it in the correct places so that people can find it easier. > > > > Somewhat relevant but not an analogous project to GNUstep. Msys2 is a > > layer that adds a posix layer to windows. > > > > http://x.cygwin.com/ : different project from the above, but somehow > > cousin. Again just a crude "devel" subdirectory. Not a very nice > > design, > > but quite structured. Screenshots. > > > > > > Cygwin is no longer maintained. Irrelevant. > > The latest release of Cygwin listed on that website is of April 2025. > More recent than GNUstep. > A check on git repo shows the last commit is from 5 hours ago at the > time of writing. How are they unmaintained? > Okay, they are still alive. I had heard that they were not being used or it was not being maintained. > Probably you judge them "dead" as people judge dead GNUstep even if we > do release and commit. A similarity indeed. <sarcasm> > > Perhaps. > > > > https://xfce.org/ : no specific "developer" subdomain either. Very > > busy > > look, I would not like something like that. Yet still easy at the > > top-level: docs, wiki, archive... > > > > > > Xfce is a window manager not a dev environment. So, irrelevant. > > Sorry to correct you. Xfce is a fully fledged desktop environment. It is > written directly on their homepage. Debian offers XFCE as a desktop > login choice, exactly as gnome or GNUstep. I supposed you knew it. I'm a > user when it is not GNUstep/WindowMaker. > > Sorry to correct you, XFCE is not a development environment in the same way that GNUstep is. And JUST BECAUSE they organize their website in one way doesn't justify us doing the same. > As a parallel, it is just calling GNUstep WindowMaker, a windowmanager > :) :) Another classic issue of GNUstep <sarcasm> But both GNUstep and > WindowMaker have a special section for that which I extra cross-linked > for the fun when it happens. > > Actually, Xfce has core components, Applications, functionalities > divided in "sub projects" not unlike us. Thus checking around is > instructive. > > > > > https://wxwidgets.org/ : no specific developer subdomain either. > > > > So finally a project somewhat relevant… I see no reason to imitate them. > > So you judge this relevant but not other projects. Fine. However you > also see no reason to imitate them, but IBM or KDE are. Quite arbitrary. Not arbitrary at all. > > Fine with that > I was just looking around. Did I write we should imitate them? I Or we > should not? > You imply that because they don't have this we shouldn't. > > > > So you agree in the meeting only to later disagree on the list. Smdh > > What should I have agreed and disagree now? I do wonder... > > > Riccardo > > Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation
