Le Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 10:56:03PM +0100, Richard Lewis a écrit :
> Seems like logcheck should be "involved", or at least "informed"

I’m adding them as CC to this message so they at least are going to be
aware of the ongoing discussion.

To logcheck maintainers, the start of the current thread can be found
here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/08/msg00043.html

> (im afraid i didnt really understood the aims - improving documentation
> seems like mostly a packaging issue?, (…)

It is not about improving the documentation shipped in the packages, but
the documentation provided on Debian Wiki. Improvements to documentation
shipped in packages would only happen later (if at all), and probably as
upstream patches rather than Debian-specific stuff.

> (…) and on your wiki page you say 2
> daemons should be avoided --- but systemd-journal + rsyslog is what a
> lot of people want? - dont ask me why).

systemd-journald is a bit special, like everything in the systemd-*
namespace. That’s the only logging daemon in Debian I know of that is
not providing system-log-daemon, because it does that in a
non-conflicting and very different manner than regular logging daemons.

To be fully frank, I mostly do not consider systemd-journald to be part
of the team topics. But if someone really wants to work on
journald/journalctl documentation and wants to do that as part of the
Logging Team, I don’t think we are going to prevent that.

> will you announce a mailing list here when it is created? seems like
> "logging" needs something more persistent than irc!

Yes, if a mailing list is created it is going to be announced on
debian-devel as well as added to the wiki article. But I am only going
to ask for its creation if a really sizeable team assembles, as I don’t
think it would be worth setting that up for a 2-3 people team.

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